Bradley in NCAA! 13th seed vs Kansas at Auburn Hills, MI

[bradley fan]

How the heck did Texas A&M get a bid?

And NC State?

[bradley fan]

SIU gets a lousy 11 seed!!! vs. West Va.

[Grassman]

SIU gets a lousy 11 seed!!! vs. West Va.
SIU an 11th. looks bad for Valley. Maybe 3 teams. Worse fro BU

[Da Coach]

Bradley is officially in!

They will be a number 13 seed, and will play Kansas in Auburn Hills!!

Congratulations Braves!!!

[SpfldBUAlum]

A 13????? Must have been one of the last in!

[SpfldBUAlum]

Looks like NO respect for the Valley from the selection committee

[BU fan]

Indiana must have some dirty pictures of the tournament selection committee members' wives. A 6th seed for a bubble team?

[Grassman]

Looks like NO respect for the Valley from the selection committee

The Valley is getting Dissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[BU fan]

Sorry Creighton fans. And MSU is hanging by a thread!

[Biff]

How the heck did Air Force make it? And Utah State? This is bad for the MVC.

[Da Coach]

I agree. Air Force has 0 wins against top 50 RPI teams!

Utah State has played nobody!!

[SpfldBUAlum]

Nice #7 for WSU

Air Force ZERO wins agains the top 50 with the same seed as us??????

[SpfldBUAlum]

For what its worth, 19% of 13 seeds have won their first round games.

[Da Coach]

UNI gets in with a #10.

MSU is toast.

[Thor_Batchelor_42]

Can we deduce the day and time yet, or is it too earliy?

[SpfldBUAlum]

The game will be on Friday but the times wont be out for a couple days.

[mplona]

Can we deduce the day and time yet, or is it too earliy?

yeah i want to know the time too & if they which markets they will show it, cause im so not going to work for that game.

[Da Coach]

It will be Friday. Time to be determined.

[tornado]

For what its worth, 19% of 13 seeds have won their first round games.

And Kansas has a history of playing poorly in early round games, bowing out last year in their first round game to Bucknell!

[tornado]

Billy Packer is on drugs or something.
Time and again as nance was talking about one of the matchups, Billy started responding by talking about a completely different game.
On one occasion he even started discussing teams who weren't even mentioned yet and were in a different bracket!

And another one, Arizona, gets a gift from their buds on the selecetion committee, and ends up with a seed higher than the Valley teams!

[Biff]

Nance and Packer are about to stroke out. They keep trying to make the case that since the MVC and Colonial haven't won all that many games in past years, that they don't deserve any bids this year.

What jerks! They just cut off the committee chairman so they could whine!

[DannyCooksey]

Congrats froman ISU fan on gettin' in the tourney. i think you guys deserve it. I was thinking maybe an 11 seed, but at least you are in. Now do the Valley proud and beat them Jayhawks!!!!

I know its a tough matchup, but if you guys play your game, I think you can pull it off. Best wishes and congrats

[mplona]

who the **** were those two ******** on cbs in indy... did you see how the totally cut off the ncaa guy & just interrupted him then spit out who bradley & g.mason played?

did they read who the power conf schools played, no?

******* *******, *** **** those ******* ******** were all buddy buddy on top of each other & i bet they dont know what the **** they are even talking about. **** those guys. im so pissed off right now.

[SpfldBUAlum]

Wow, they both seem insulted that the Valley got 4 teams. THey were being pretty rude to the lead of the selection comittee when they had him on! Big thing now is that we have win a couple games so they have to come up with another reason that all the at-large teams have to come from the 'power conferences' I would like to see Nance or Packer talk to some of hte Valley coaches about scheduling and how hard it is to get a team like BU hte chance to play the big schools in a fair series, not just only at their place.

[Big Mike]

HEY......it just doesn't matter........were in.....tough match-up but sooner or later you have to play someone tough! I feel for MS though........seems like they made an example out of BH for all of his talking up the MVC? :wink: I did not expect CU to get in ...........but right now "how about them Braves!" :mrgreen:

Good luck to all the Valley teams.......make some noise!

PS.......to packer :roll: ........how can the Valley be compared to teams in the last 5 years of NCAA play when they only get in 1 or 2 teams a year and yet you compare them to the major $$$$$ conf who get 6 or 7 per year in wins during the tourney? :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: Take a pill! :idea:

[Biff]

Here is Texas AQ&M's nonconference schedule--
http://www.kenpom.com/sked.php?team=Texas%20A%26M

Now, Billy Packer, tell me about Bradley's schedule again?

[BuBraves55]

great points mike and biff

[Big Mike]

http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=247789

[BTID]

Wow, they both seem insulted that the Valley got 4 teams. THey were being pretty rude to the lead of the selection comittee when they had him on! Big thing now is that we have win a couple games so they have to come up with another reason that all the at-large teams have to come from the 'power conferences' I would like to see Nance or Packer talk to some of hte Valley coaches about scheduling and how hard it is to get a team like BU hte chance to play the big schools in a fair series, not just only at their place.

That's because only BCS schools have tradition and passionate fans. All the other teams in the tournament are just fodder for them, and it is proven every year :x! I guess they weren't watching the same tournament I was when Cleveland State took down Indiana in 1986, or when Kent State knocked out Pittsburgh to advance to the Elite 8 in 2002. How about Idaho State eliminating UCLA in 1977 and advancing to the Elite 8. Northern Iowa beat Missouri in 1991, Bucknell took out Kansas last year, and let's see--UW-Milwaukee made it to the round of 16 last year. Yep, I guess teams like Bradley should just send a fax to Bill Self and tell him that Kansas' tradition and past basketball glory are too much for the Braves to handle, therefore, we forfeit Friday's game, because we just can't compete---NOT!!!!

[BU fan]

This is the release just posted on the Kansas website--
http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/031206aaa.html

They say the time of the game should be announced tomorrow.

[brebeuf06]

I was disgusted by Nantz and Packer but no skin off ur backs BU fans you guys are in. I thought you would be a 10 or 11 but Kansas is a winnable game if you play good ball.

[BU fan]

I agree that it could be a winnable game. But Bradley has to shake off the tendency to start slow. They need to play well from the start of both halves.

If Bradley wins, they will play the winner of the Pittsburgh-Kent State game. Go KSU!

[Big Mike]

The key for the Braves will be..........not to get stuck on a # for a long period of time........this is do or die time, no tomorrow if you lose! If the outside shots fail to fall.....take it inside and work back out.........no more fade-away treys! :idea: Also having a healthy DR will bode well for the Braves! :D

[Bravesfan]

who the **** were those two ******** on cbs in indy... did you see how the totally cut off the ncaa guy & just interrupted him then spit out who bradley & g.mason played?

did they read who the power conf schools played, no?

******* *******, *** **** those ******* ******** were all buddy buddy on top of each other & i bet they dont know what the **** they are even talking about. **** those guys. im so pissed off right now.

Very bushleague of those two! As I said on another thread, they probably don't deserve to be fired because of their opinions. But I CAN see them being fired because of their rudeness toward the committee chair, and their unflinching disdain toward "the little people" of Division I basketball! EEWWWW!!! :roll: :x They ought to be ashamed of themselves! Not very good "journalism" to say the least! :roll:

[Bravesfan]

I agree that it could be a winnable game. But Bradley has to shake off the tendency to start slow. They need to play well from the start of both halves.

If Bradley wins, they will play the winner of the Pittsburgh-Kent State game. Go KSU!

I think Bradley's biggest problem all year, even during their few losses during their hot streak, is that they get too easily flustered when they fall way behind. They start forcing up "NBA" threes, and they get away from their patent inside style of offense that has helped them get to where they are. Oh, and then they forget how to play defense as well!

IF they are patent, they can hang around and overtake the best of anybody. If not, it could get ugly fast, like it did during that ten minute stretch of the MVC championship game!

[Braveman]

Looks like NO respect for the Valley from the selection committee

4 got in... I don't see how that is no respect...

Now if you said no respect from the talking heads on CBs.. who actually talked out of their other ends.. I would agree....

[Evolvehawk]

A&M beat Texas


Creighton beat who??

[bradley fan]

A&M beat Texas

Creighton beat who??

I think most MVC fans didn't have a problem with Creighton not getting in. They had the highest RPI of any of the top 6 MVC schools (39). Creighton had some nice wins, 6 against top 33 RPI schools-- George Mason (RPI 26), Missouri State (RPI 21), Northern Iowa twice (25), Bradley (33), and Wichita State (27).

But Missouri State had an RPI of 21 and was left out. Why bother even having the RPI if the #21 team can be left out. No team has ever been even close to that and been left out. Texas A&M had an RPI of 44. They did beat Texas at home (their only quality win), but how many teams like Texas could Bradley and Missouri State have beaten if those teams would have the guts to play them in Peoria and Springfield, MO?

By the way, Texas A&M's win over Texas was the only win they had all year against any team with an RPI less than 59!

http://www.kenpom.com/sked.php?team=Texas%20A%26M

They did not deserve a bid IMO.

[Evolvehawk]

why should Big 12 teams visit MVC teams?

shouldn't it be vice versa?


Gonzaga started playing anyone anywhere, then once they earned respect they started getting more teams on better sites (neutrals, home/home's)


Like it or not, it's a BCS conference world, and the MVC simply lives in it

[Da Coach]

Here is one man's opinion of the selection committee's work. I happen to agree with most of what is said.

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/Onions/060312a.htm

Looks to me like the committee was concerned about the number of bids per conference. The quality of the teams they put in or out was secondary to the balancing of the conference bids according to their preconceived ranking of the conferences.

Here is another opinion by Gregg Doyel of CBS. He takes the committee to task--

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9303466

[thefish7]

why should Big 12 teams visit MVC teams?

shouldn't it be vice versa?


Gonzaga started playing anyone anywhere, then once they earned respect they started getting more teams on better sites (neutrals, home/home's)


Like it or not, it's a BCS conference world, and the MVC simply lives in it

Yes, and as far as I know the MVC went 7-9 against the Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Big XII, and Big East.

[Fetz86]

A lot of the a******s like packer, nance, and digger wont be happy until the smaller conferences break off into a div1-aa or something like football.

We just need to hope for some wins. I think all the valley teams have a reasonable shot at winning their first round games (although we got screwed the most of anyone, well minus Mo State).

[Da Coach]

Here are a couple blogs from knowledgeable basketball writers about the job the NCAA did

http://www.kenpom.com/blog/

http://www.yocohoops.com/story/2006/3/12/185837/358

[topher79]

why should Big 12 teams visit MVC teams?

shouldn't it be vice versa?

Like it or not, it's a BCS conference world, and the MVC simply lives in it

KU turned down a visit from WSU on national television this season. Instead WSU went to Auburn Hills to play Michigan St and KU brought in Cal.

Good thing too cause playing KU would have hurt their RPI.

[creightoncutie]

I live in kansas city and all over the radio and news they are talking about how this game is goona be pretty easy because you guys have not been in the tourny for awhile. well that is crap because history doesnt matter. I hate ku and their cocky fans. Please kill them, believe me you can do it they are weak! Remember who they lost to last year, bucknell who was worse then than now. Also there team was way better then. Please do me a favor and shut all these hicks up & send them home. GO BRAVES! GO Valley, show the world how good the valley is.

GO JAYS?! :lol:

[Jhawk20]

For what its worth, 19% of 13 seeds have won their first round games.

And Kansas has a history of playing poorly in early round games, bowing out last year in their first round game to Bucknell!

While Kansas has had some close first round games I believe they had the longest streak of first round victories until the bucknell game last year. The last first round lost was in the early 70s I believe. Good luck to you but two in a row does not seem likely.

[WileyKUFan]

WOW, to say that last years KU team is better than this one is comparing apples to anything but apples.

Last year's team did not buy into Self's type of basketball. That was evident in early January. Simien was a phenominal scoring threat but couldn't play post defense. Langford was injured at the end of the regular season and never recovered enough to help in the tourney...JR Giddens was a washout who could shoot the three ball if wide open but could not penetrate or play defense.

THIS years team is based completely on defense. You struggle against teams that play great defense in the back court...our gaurds have cause numerous teams to turn the ball over...see the Texas/KU game for the Championship.

Bucknell beat us last year...NO EXCUSES from this fan, but the team THIS year would beat last year's team...the only player better on last years team would be Simien.

ONE first round loss in 30+ years and now we're vulnerable in the first round??

Come on!

You got screwed with your seed...period. But don't act like playing KU is not going to be difficult! Anyone outside of Peoria knows you have your hands full! We have a young ( 3 fresh and two sophs starting ) team that knows no fear.

I wish you good luck, but I hope we hammer you.

[Da Coach]

Bradley and us fans can only hope to avoid embarrassing ourselves against Kansas with all the NBA talent, and one of the top coaches in America.

But I think I will be glad when it's all over and all these KU, WSU, Creighton, and other smack-talking fans go back to their boards and duke it out. It used to be civil here. :roll:

[New Guy]

I am with you Da Coach. I found this board in January an have enjoyed insightful posts and links from BU fans and opponent fans alike. The trash talkers bore me.

Some of the KU fans have shown links to information. That has been hepful but I want more than stats. I want a real basketball fan's opinion.

Of course KU will be favored as they should but as for the frontline players BU can be very athletic. One name I have yet to see talked about is Zach Andrews I know he did not see much of the court in St Louis but he will need to give quality minutes if BU has a chance. Also Daniel Ruffin has play well. It is too bad we could not compete in the MVC title game.

I want to know what changed in KU a the mid-season. Improved defense? New starters? Better shot selection? They went from loosing close games to the hottest team in the conference what was the big change? Are there any informed KU fans on this board that want to talk hoops?

[PekkaMarkkanenen]

I want to know what changed in KU a the mid-season. Improved defense? New starters? Better shot selection? They went from loosing close games to the hottest team in the conference what was the big change? Are there any informed KU fans on this board that want to talk hoops?
We are a very young team, so part of this was just gaining experience, but the consensus seems to be that we really turned things around when Mario Chalmers was moved from PG to the 2-guard and Russell Robinson took over the point. Chalmers blossomed as an offensive player, and RusRob has done a more than adequate job at PG. Our defense has been tough all year -- took a while for the offense to start to gel. Here's an Andy Katz column from back in Feb. about our turnaround. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=2343091)

[New Guy]

Thanks PekkaMarkkanenen I knew there were great KU fans here.

BU also had a mid-season change. It has after a disaterous home game against WSU. Coach Les put all starting spots up for grabs. The result has JJ Twaui moving from the bench and only minutes at mop up time to a starter. The defense improved for the whole team. They created their offense off the defense and went on a nice run over they last 12 games.

[McFly]

[quote="WileyKUFan"

You got screwed with your seed...period. But don't act like playing KU is not going to be difficult! Anyone outside of Peoria knows you have your hands full! We have a young ( 3 fresh and two sophs starting ) team that knows no fear.

I wish you good luck, but I hope we hammer you.[/quote]



I havent seen any BU fan saying the game wont be difficult. BU will have their hands full. For crying out loud it's a 13-4 matchup. BU is thrilled to be in the tourney....I dont know if we got screwed, but many did think a 10-12 was more likely.....Bu fans hope we hammer you guys, thats pretty normal. But as most people in Peoria understand, message board posters dont play the games, the players do...so all the trash talking in the world wont have any impact on anything...so whatever makes you guys in Kansas get through a night in the plains is fine with me.....Best of luck to all the kids playing the game

[SFP]

I havent seen any BU fan saying the game wont be difficult. BU will have their hands full. For crying out loud it's a 13-4 matchup. BU is thrilled to be in the tourney....I dont know if we got screwed, but many did think a 10-12 was more likely.....Bu fans hope we hammer you guys, thats pretty normal. But as most people in Peoria understand, message board posters dont play the games, the players do...so all the trash talking in the world wont have any impact on anything...so whatever makes you guys in Kansas get through a night in the plains is fine with me.....Best of luck to all the kids playing the game

I couldn't have said it better :D

[bradley fan]

Here is an article with the NCAA explaining why they picked Air Force over Cincinnati and Missouri State

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060312/SPT0101/303120015

Also, I can't find a link, but Jerry Palm [ collegerpi.com ] has said that the selection of Air Force as an at-large team was the worst at-large selection in the history of the NCAA Tournament.

[WileyKUFan]

Not to flame, but MANY BU fans have gone on about what a GREAT matchup this game is...going so far as to say your starting five are better than KU's...

[dogsrus]

Not to flame, but MANY BU fans have gone on about what a GREAT matchup this game is...going so far as to say your starting five are better than KU's...


Nice try.....sell that load of BS elswhere.

[threeeleven]

Not to flame, but MANY BU fans have gone on about what a GREAT matchup this game is...going so far as to say your starting five are better than KU's...

well i know the starting 5 piece is not true. j.j. starts and i can think of a score of other guys id rather put in that 5.

but im not seeing where you find that everyone is calling this a great match up. i myself think that, if kansas wins friday they will cause some damage in the tourney. kansas is hot right now and can continue on that. but this being the bradley message board we will say that its a game we can and should win because its what we want to see.

and about the journal star article.. i would ignore it most of us ignore it anyway. half the sports writers take dumps on bradley while they praise the ground the "god's gift to illinois" (the illini) walk on.

[bradley fan]

Not to flame, but MANY BU fans have gone on about what a GREAT matchup this game is...going so far as to say your starting five are better than KU's...

Please post a link or reference to where any Bradley fan has said that. I do not believe it. Bradley fans are very intelligent as a rule, and know what they are talking about. I read all the Bulletin boards, and I have never seen any Bradley person say something this silly.

[WileyKUFan]

Quoted from "Da Coach" in the FIRST message on this board...unless this is tongue in cheek, here's that LINK you wanted.

The starters for Kansas (click on name to see bio)-
Russell Robinson
Mario Chalmers
Sasha Kaun
Brandon Rush
Julian Wright

Reserves-
Jeff Hawkins
Darnell Jackson
C.J. Giles
Christian Moody

Looks like the advantage goes to Da Braves!

Last edited by Da Coach on Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:24 pm

Quote from Dallas Brave in the same thread:


"This is a great match-up for Bradley. "

I did not mean to come here and flame...not usually my style just feel like too many have not seen the Hawks, nor do they have respect for them. NO WAY does a paper in KS, KC or MO come out and bash your University because it's challenging the "Braves" as a mascot, or belittle where you came from or disparage your school. I do not care if it was meant tongue in cheek, it was in bad taste.

I have ALWAYS cheered on the MVC whenever a team made the tourney...NOT this year.

[WileyKUFan]

Quoted from "Da Coach" in the FIRST message on this board...unless this is tongue in cheek, here's that LINK you wanted.

The starters for Kansas (click on name to see bio)-
Russell Robinson
Mario Chalmers
Sasha Kaun
Brandon Rush
Julian Wright

Reserves-
Jeff Hawkins
Darnell Jackson
C.J. Giles
Christian Moody

Looks like the advantage goes to Da Braves!

Last edited by Da Coach on Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:24 pm

Quote from Dallas Brave in the same thread:


"This is a great match-up for Bradley. "

I did not mean to come here and flame...not usually my style just feel like too many have not seen the Hawks, nor do they have respect for them. NO WAY does a paper in KS, KC or MO come out and bash your University because it's challenging the "Braves" as a mascot, or belittle where you came from or disparage your school. I do not care if it was meant tongue in cheek, it was in bad taste.

I have ALWAYS cheered on the MVC whenever a team made the tourney...NOT this year.

[Grassman]

Quoted from "Da Coach" in the FIRST message on this board...unless this is tongue in cheek, here's that LINK you wanted.

The starters for Kansas (click on name to see bio)-
Russell Robinson
Mario Chalmers
Sasha Kaun
Brandon Rush
Julian Wright

Reserves-
Jeff Hawkins
Darnell Jackson
C.J. Giles
Christian Moody

Looks like the advantage goes to Da Braves!

Last edited by Da Coach on Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:24 pm

Quote from Dallas Brave in the same thread:


"This is a great match-up for Bradley. "

I did not mean to come here and flame...not usually my style just feel like too many have not seen the Hawks, nor do they have respect for them. NO WAY does a paper in KS, KC or MO come out and bash your University because it's challenging the "Braves" as a mascot, or belittle where you came from or disparage your school. I do not care if it was meant tongue in cheek, it was in bad taste.

I have ALWAYS cheered on the MVC whenever a team made the tourney...NOT this year.

You know? You Kansas folk are REALLY wierd!!!!!!!

[Grassman]

why should Big 12 teams visit MVC teams?

shouldn't it be vice versa?


Gonzaga started playing anyone anywhere, then once they earned respect they started getting more teams on better sites (neutrals, home/home's)


Like it or not, it's a BCS conference world, and the MVC simply lives in it

Is Nebraska in the Big 12? well MCV's 6th place team Creighton smoked them by 26 at their place!

[New Guy]

I gotta agree grassman. The KU posters remind me of arrogant Nebraska football fans. You know, "Nooooobody has our tradition, talent, fan base, pagentry, history etc. "If you don't see that let me quote you some stats so you can be converted".

I get it KU is favored as they should be. We think that we have a chance and more importantly that we have a right and obligation to be optimistic about our team. We are just BU hoop fans.

Now lets see if WileyKUfan starts another paragraph with. "I did not mean to come here and flame" If you want to talk to people who drink the jayhawk kool-aide you are on the wrong board.

PS. Phil Luciano can't tell you how many people are on a basketball team. It was meant to be funny. He writes colums not articals. Not even for the sports section. Don't take him or yourself so seriously.

[collegehoopjunkie]

.....
Is Nebraska in the Big 12? well MCV's 6th place team Creighton smoked them by 26 at their place!

And as noted by someone else on this board,
the Big XII's 5th place team, who some thought should have gotten an NCAA bid,
was smoked last night on their own home court in an NIT game by a midmajor.
Maybe Old Dominion should have gotten Texas A&M's NCAA at large bid?

[mplona]

Quoted from "Da Coach" in the FIRST message on this board...unless this is tongue in cheek, here's that LINK you wanted.

The starters for Kansas (click on name to see bio)-
Russell Robinson
Mario Chalmers
Sasha Kaun
Brandon Rush
Julian Wright

Reserves-
Jeff Hawkins
Darnell Jackson
C.J. Giles
Christian Moody

Looks like the advantage goes to Da Braves!

Last edited by Da Coach on Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:24 pm

Quote from Dallas Brave in the same thread:


"This is a great match-up for Bradley. "

I did not mean to come here and flame...not usually my style just feel like too many have not seen the Hawks, nor do they have respect for them. NO WAY does a paper in KS, KC or MO come out and bash your University because it's challenging the "Braves" as a mascot, or belittle where you came from or disparage your school. I do not care if it was meant tongue in cheek, it was in bad taste.

I have ALWAYS cheered on the MVC whenever a team made the tourney...NOT this year.

its not like the people from this board wrote it & put it in the paper. i didnt think the column was necessary as much as you did.

[Da Coach]

WileyKUFan wrote:

Quoted from "Da Coach" in the FIRST message on this board...unless this is tongue in cheek, here's that LINK you wanted.

Are you serious? Or are you just trying to drum up some issue to get upset about? Of course it was just tongue-in-cheek. You didn't note that I put the LOL smiley in my message about "the advantage goes to Da Braves :lol: ", and I used the term "Da Braves" in homage of the Saturday Night Live skit with the guys who are gung-ho fans of "Da Bears".

The only people here talking smack are all the KU trolls.