View Full Version : Bradley vs. Kansas- Friday, 8:30 pm
Da Coach
03-12-2006, 07:04 PM
Kansas Roster-
http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/kan-m-baskbl-mtt.html
Kansas Stats-
http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2005-2006/teamcume.html
Bradley stats-
http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19334&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=210645
The starters for Kansas (click on name to see bio)-
Russell Robinson (http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/robinson_russell00.html)
Mario Chalmers (http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/chalmers_mario00.html)
Sasha Kaun (http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/kaun_sasha00.html)
Brandon Rush (http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/rush_brandon00.html)
Julian Wright (http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/wright_julian00.html)
Reserves-
Jeff Hawkins (http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/hawkins_jeff00.html)
Darnell Jackson (http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/jackson_darnell00.html)
C.J. Giles (http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/giles_cj00.html)
Christian Moody (http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/moody_christian00.html)
Looks like the advantage goes to Da Braves! :lol:
brebeuf06
03-12-2006, 07:15 PM
Brandon Rush is a player he can go off. I wish he had gone to IU.
Dallas Brave
03-12-2006, 08:54 PM
This is a great match-up for Bradley.
TheAsianSensation
03-12-2006, 09:37 PM
This is a winnable game, but I think a lot of us were hoping to get into that 6-11 or 7-10 game.
Evolvehawk
03-12-2006, 10:07 PM
Personally, I don't see how you can be happy at all with this matchup or seed.
I definately expected Bradley around the 10-11 area, not this low.
I am looking forward to the game, but I don't think Bradley matches up well at all with KU
BU fan
03-12-2006, 10:08 PM
Some quotes from the Kansas players--
http://kuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/031206aaa.html
Evolvehawk
03-12-2006, 10:11 PM
won't see any disrespect from the KU players ever
I think Self would make them run the treadmill about 100 hrs if they gave any Bulletin Board material
I think it's going to be a good game
bradley fan
03-12-2006, 10:15 PM
Funny that the Kansas guys have the names mixed up for our centers. I know he is a force, but they seem to be overly concerned about Brandyn Heemskerk.
threeeleven
03-12-2006, 10:16 PM
i found this funny from the players notes:
Sophomore Center C.J. Giles
On Bradley's Center Brandyn Heemskerk:
"I spoke to Coach Self about him and he told me that he plays a lot like me. I know that I just need to guard him as much as I did LaMarcus (Aldridge) and we will be fine."
if they are working a game plan to defend brandon hopefully they will over look the guys we are more likely to throw at them
threeeleven
03-12-2006, 10:17 PM
Funny that the Kansas guys have the names mixed up for our centers. I know he is a force, but they seem to be overly concerned about Brandyn Heemskerk.
haha beat me too it i thought one kid screwed up then went to the next kid and found the same thing. hopefully they are studying brandons game film though
KansasisWright
03-12-2006, 11:06 PM
Funny that the Kansas guys have the names mixed up for our centers. I know he is a force, but they seem to be overly concerned about Brandyn Heemskerk.
Thats just a typo they meant Patrick O' Bryant and the players themselves didnt give out the names the site just screwed them up.
Da Coach
03-13-2006, 07:05 AM
Here are a few PJ Star articles about Bradley and their party Sunday night. Nice to see that Marcello Robinson and Mike Suggs were there to celebrate with the Braves. Also nice to see that Andrew Warren and his family drove over at their own expense to join the party. Too bad they couldn't even have a piece of cake without worrying that someone would turn them in for a violation! :D
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/posting.php?mode=reply&t=2473&sid=20c0d8e52aeaffe315dead06d5b4633c
http://pjstar.com/stories/031306/KIR_B98000CM.076.shtml
http://pjstar.com/stories/031306/TRI_B980ELT3.052.shtml
http://pjstar.com/stories/031306/BRA_B9803U48.076.shtml
Saluki
03-13-2006, 11:13 AM
I knew you guys were in, do us all a favor and b!tchslap Bill Selfish now! Good luck.
WileyKUFan
03-13-2006, 03:50 PM
Bill Selfish, Bail Self ... You'd think the Illini would be over it by now!
After all they think their coach is the next coming of Wooden!
I guess a coach that takes a team with NO Juniors, Three Seniors ( two of whom are walk-on's ) a hand-full of sophomores and freshman "AA" (who thought more of themselves than they should have at the beginning of the year) and turned them into a complete team that plays dominant defense, learns from every loss and has played their best ball before the tourney begins is selfish, so be it!
Here's to a quick Illini exit...and Bradly giving up a 20 point defeat to the Jayhawks!
Grassman
03-13-2006, 03:59 PM
Bill Selfish, Bail Self ... You'd think the Illini would be over it by now!
After all they think their coach is the next coming of Wooden!
I guess a coach that takes a team with NO Juniors, Three Seniors ( two of whom are walk-on's ) a hand-full of sophomores and freshman "AA" (who thought more of themselves than they should have at the beginning of the year) and turned them into a complete team that plays dominant defense, learns from every loss and has played their best ball before the tourney begins is selfish, so be it!
Here's to a quick Illini exit...and Bradly giving up a 20 point defeat to the Jayhawks!
Hey! You guys are McDonald All Americans, while our guys eat at Mcdonalds.
But, don't worry, we will put down our 1/4 pounders and show up!
Grassman
03-13-2006, 04:00 PM
Bill Selfish, Bail Self ... You'd think the Illini would be over it by now!
After all they think their coach is the next coming of Wooden!
I guess a coach that takes a team with NO Juniors, Three Seniors ( two of whom are walk-on's ) a hand-full of sophomores and freshman "AA" (who thought more of themselves than they should have at the beginning of the year) and turned them into a complete team that plays dominant defense, learns from every loss and has played their best ball before the tourney begins is selfish, so be it!
Here's to a quick Illini exit...and Bradly giving up a 20 point defeat to the Jayhawks!
Hey! You guys are McDonald All Americans, while our guys eat at Mcdonalds.
But, don't worry, we will put down our 1/4 pounders and show up!
user1
03-13-2006, 04:00 PM
...and Bradly giving up a 20 point defeat to the Jayhawks!
Hey--most of what you're referring to is NOT coming from Bradley fans, and I'll take that bet on a 20 pt. blowout, as Bradley has not been blown out by 20 this year, nor last year.
Kansas meanwhile, has a 25 point blowout loss as recently as ......2 weeks ago...hmmmm.
BUBraves2006
03-13-2006, 05:39 PM
Don't want to be picky, but isn't the game at 9:40, not 8:40? I just say this so the board doesn't mislead people.
Grassman
03-13-2006, 05:44 PM
Don't want to be picky, but isn't the game at 9:40, not 8:40? I just say this so the board doesn't mislead people.
9:40 est. 8:40 cst.
Chalmersfan
03-13-2006, 08:02 PM
And I don't think this is a good matchup at all for your team because of the tempo they play. KU lost to Bucknell and struggled in 2003 with Utah State and in 2002 with Holy Cross because they play incredibly slow. Bradley doesn't do that. Also from looking at the stats Bradley doesn't rely on the 3 pointer... that makes it more likely that they will struggle against KU's defense.
Can someone prove me wrong, or are the stats indicative of the style Bradley plays.
Chalmersfan
03-13-2006, 08:04 PM
And I don't think this is a good matchup at all for your team because of the tempo they play. KU lost to Bucknell and struggled in 2003 with Utah State and in 2002 with Holy Cross because they play incredibly slow. Bradley doesn't do that. Also from looking at the stats Bradley doesn't rely on the 3 pointer... that makes it more likely that they will struggle against KU's defense.
Can someone prove me wrong, or are the stats indicative of the style Bradley plays.
No, you are pretty much on the money. Bradley simply doesn't stand a chance. Kansas looks unbeatable to me.
And I don't think this is a good matchup at all for your team because of the tempo they play. KU lost to Bucknell and struggled in 2003 with Utah State and in 2002 with Holy Cross because they play incredibly slow. Bradley doesn't do that. Also from looking at the stats Bradley doesn't rely on the 3 pointer... that makes it more likely that they will struggle against KU's defense.
Can someone prove me wrong, or are the stats indicative of the style Bradley plays.
KU has been able to score in bunches with their D, converting turnovers into points. When they can't they struggle to score in the 1/2 court. BU has some really good ballhandlers and are use to teams that press on D. I believe SIU will be the best defensive team BU will play this year. On the other hand we can shoot the three when we have to as long as it is not forced. KU will have to shut down POB and then worry about our 3pt shooting!
threeeleven
03-13-2006, 08:42 PM
does anybody else miss gilbert? that was the last time a bradley player would shoot threes that i didnt cringe.
collegehoopjunkie
03-14-2006, 06:12 AM
And I don't think this is a good matchup at all for your team because of the tempo they play. KU lost to Bucknell and struggled in 2003 with Utah State and in 2002 with Holy Cross because they play incredibly slow. Bradley doesn't do that. Also from looking at the stats Bradley doesn't rely on the 3 pointer... that makes it more likely that they will struggle against KU's defense.
Can someone prove me wrong, or are the stats indicative of the style Bradley plays.
The game is played on the floor, not on the stat sheet.
But I like the cocky attitude that so many KU fans have, thinking they are impossible to beat.
31 different teams have been to the Final Four since the last time Kansas won it all.
Here is an interesting stat:
Teams from the Missouri Valley Conference who have played in the Championship Game of the NCAA Tourney:
----NINE (Oklahoma State when they were in the Valley three times, Bradley twice, Cincinnati 3 times, Memphis State once)
Teams from the entire state of Kansas who have played in the Championship Game of the NCAA Tourney:
----EIGHT (Kansas 7 times, K-State once)
Chalmersfan
03-14-2006, 11:10 AM
The game is played on the floor, not on the stat sheet.
But I like the cocky attitude that so many KU fans have, thinking they are impossible to beat.
31 different teams have been to the Final Four since the last time Kansas won it all.
And the stat sheet determines certain aspects of how the game will be played, and the stats say that Bradley may play at too fast of a pace for their own good. The stats say Bradley isn't a prolific shooting team, and I think threeeleven echos that.
I think the team that takes care of the ball the best and does not give up easy baskets will win. What both teams have in common is the ability to put up 10 quick points off of turnovers. This time of the year it is about what you do with the ball every possession because baskets are much harder to get.
Grassman
03-14-2006, 04:24 PM
The game is played on the floor, not on the stat sheet.
But I like the cocky attitude that so many KU fans have, thinking they are impossible to beat.
31 different teams have been to the Final Four since the last time Kansas won it all.
And the stat sheet determines certain aspects of how the game will be played, and the stats say that Bradley may play at too fast of a pace for their own good. The stats say Bradley isn't a prolific shooting team, and I think threeeleven echos that.
Gees, why are we even going to show up? Lets just give KU the "W' an save on travel expenses.
tornado
03-14-2006, 05:35 PM
Gees, why are we even going to show up? Lets just give KU the "W' an save on travel expenses.
No way!!
Detroit is such a great place to drive 8 hours to get a great vacation,
I'm gonna go anyway!
WileyKUFan
03-14-2006, 05:41 PM
Here is an interesting stat:
Teams from the Missouri Valley Conference who have played in the Championship Game of the NCAA Tourney:
----NINE (Oklahoma State when they were in the Valley three times, Bradley twice, Cincinnati 3 times, Memphis State once)
Teams from the entire state of Kansas who have played in the Championship Game of the NCAA Tourney:
----EIGHT (Kansas 7 times, K-State once)
I don't know if this was supposed to bolster the MVC or Kansas...
Kansas ALONE has more Championship games than then ENTIRE current MVC confrence.
I'm not a boastful KU fan. I am confident our team will win, but I also know we are VERY young and anything can happen. Last years team is GONE and this teams shows NO resemblence of them. There is only ONE player who played significant minutes in that game still on this team -- Moody -- and he sits at the end of the bench now. Hawkins barely played last year.
I DO find it interesting that your local papers disrespect KU, their fans and their mascot and that posters on this board honestly feel that KU is a GOOD matchup for them. Outside of Peoria that is simply not the case.
Don't take what I am saying the wrong way. I have alot of respect for your team, but I do not believe your conference plays as "tough" as the BigXII does night in and night out. Nor have you have to face teams like OU or UT during the year.
It will be settled on Friday...and should you win, I'll be back here to eat crow.
Visit Phog.net to see what other fans are saying, you'll be surprised to see how much fear and respect we have for you.
Brave4life
03-15-2006, 03:07 PM
Fear us - we're showin' lucky #13 as our seed, which happens to be the number on our seven foot tall leprechaun's jersey.
Its St. Patty's Day KU...and our patron saint's name is O'Bryant.
Go Braves!!!!!
I would be surprised if this game is a double-digit job for the winning team. True, the KU players are a different bunch that lost to Bucknell last year. Bradley hasn't been in the tournament since 1995, so neither team will have past tourney experience to draw upon. The only bunch with experience from last year is the Kansas coaching staff. The Braves need to stick with the same intensity they've displayed since late January that put them in position to be in the tournament. If they shoot even slightly better than they did in the second half of the MVC title game in St. Louis, they will be in this till the end. If KU's shooting is off, they could be the one's playing catch-up at the end. It will not be easy for the winning team, but BU can pull this off with solid defense, even if their shooting is off target.
TRIMAN
03-15-2006, 10:54 PM
IDK, I think that KU is a horrible matchup for Bradley. I really don't like Bill Self, but KU has so much more talent than Bradley (and they still have the better coach). Luckily the game is decided on the floor - so you're saying there's a chance - but a lot will have to go right for Bradley. I think that they CAN play with KU, but I dont' think they will. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Da Coach
03-16-2006, 04:27 AM
A couple articles in the PJ Star this morning
Chuck Buescher's contribution to the Bradley improvement on defense-
http://pjstar.com/stories/031606/BRA_B98NMA5S.W02.shtml
Kirk Wessler's rant about the Kansas mascot and chant, and the lack of ones by Bradley-
http://pjstar.com/stories/031606/KIR_B98OAVE3.073.shtml
thefish7
03-16-2006, 08:07 AM
A couple articles in the PJ Star this morning
Chuck Buescher's contribution to the Bradley improvement on defense-
http://pjstar.com/stories/031606/BRA_B98NMA5S.W02.shtml
Kirk Wessler's rant about the Kansas mascot and chant, and the lack of ones by Bradley-
http://pjstar.com/stories/031606/KIR_B98OAVE3.073.shtml
I've been reflecting on our name situation and by extension mascot situation. I like our name, but if we're not allowed to have a mascot or logos or chants or anything... what' the point of fighting so hard to keep it?
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