Bradley recruit- 2007 juco Charlie Coley

[Da Coach]

Charlie Coley is a 6'7" junior college sophomore, who was considered as a possible Junior College preseason player of the year by Street & Smith's. He is originally from Florida, and now plays for Dodge City Community College in the Jayhawk Conference.

Bradley had been recruiting him, but he now has several other high majors involved. Schools actively recruiting Coley are Oklahoma State, UNLV, Texas A&M, Kansas, St. John’s, Bradley, Oklahoma, Auburn and Florida State. He took his first official visit a few weeks ago to Florida International. He does not have any other visits scheduled.

There is a new premium article on Coley on Scout this morning--
http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=581111

His coach Brian Hoiberect says this about him--
“Charlie was in contention with two other players for the Street & Smith’s national junior college player of the year. He’s arguably the most athletic junior college player in the nation,” Hoberecht said of the West Palm Beach, Fla., native with a 41-inch vertical jump.

Coley averaged 11.7 ppg and 10 rpg with 101 blocked shots (more than three a game) in helping lead Dodge City to a 23-10 record last season. He shot 57 percent from the field and 40 percent from behind the three-point arc. Not bad, considering the Dodge City team had 5 players average in double figures last season.

Although Street & Smith’s did not select Coley as its preseason player of the year, the magazine did name him to its first-team Super Sophomores.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/36/368189.jpg

[OrangeandBlack74]

Is this the Kansas kid that had everyone (including DRU) drooling over the possibility of his committing to BU?

[Fetz86]

this is not the guy that i had heard about, he is a high schooler.

I think we were probably refering to different people though. I can not find the name of the guy that i heard referenced elsewhere anywhere now, its like he disappeared from the face of the earth, like he was some urban legend or something.

[Da Coach]

Charlie Coley is still a recruiting target of Bradley. I have heard he will be visiting Bradley on April 13.

Several of the schools that had been recruiting Coley have recently signed big men and may not be in the market for Coley any more.
Today, Auburn got a verbal from a 7', 260 pound forward, so they may now be out of the market for Coley.

Here are the schools that Rivals lists. There may be others.--
http://stjohns.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=56221

Here is the big man Auburn just got--
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2125183
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=659659

[georgethedog]

Charlie Coley is still a recruiting target of Bradley. I have heard he will be visiting Bradley on April 13.

Several of the schools that had been recruiting Coley have recently signed big men and may not be in the market for Coley any more.
Today, Auburn got a verbal from a 7', 260 pound forward, so they may now be out of the market for Coley.

Here are the schools that Rivals lists. There may be others.--
http://stjohns.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=56221

Here is the big man Auburn just got--
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2125183
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=659659

This would be nice, but it looks like we have little chance... Thanks Coach for the information as always.

[BradleyBrave]

Charlie Coley is still a recruiting target of Bradley. I have heard he will be visiting Bradley on April 13.

Several of the schools that had been recruiting Coley have recently signed big men and may not be in the market for Coley any more.
Today, Auburn got a verbal from a 7', 260 pound forward, so they may now be out of the market for Coley.

Here are the schools that Rivals lists. There may be others.--
http://stjohns.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=56221

Here is the big man Auburn just got--
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2125183
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=659659

This would be nice, but it looks like we have little chance... Thanks Coach for the information as always.

I don't think he would visit if we had little chance, although with the lateness of the visit it seems like we might be the fallback plan. :(

[bravesonly]

if we end up being the "fallback plan" wouldnt that almost be a good thing? i mean then the kid comes in with a chip on his shoulder to show up all the other schools that passed on him...maybe schools we could meet in the final 4 next year??? 8)

[amckillip]

if we end up being the "fallback plan" wouldnt that almost be a good thing? i mean then the kid comes in with a chip on his shoulder to show up all the other schools that passed on him...maybe schools we could meet in the final 4 next year??? 8)

I don't care what we are if we get him. He seems like a great athlete and being 6-8 and big in the 3/4 would allow him to dominate in the valley. I can't disagree with others that have said if he signs with BU he might start, and give Fears a run for NOY. I hope we land him, he is the kind of athlete a small school has trouble getting. I wouldn't mind if he brought along his pal Wade Knapp either.

[BradleyBrave]

if we end up being the "fallback plan" wouldnt that almost be a good thing? i mean then the kid comes in with a chip on his shoulder to show up all the other schools that passed on him...maybe schools we could meet in the final 4 next year??? 8)

I don't care what we are if we get him. He seems like a great athlete and being 6-8 and big in the 3/4 would allow him to dominate in the valley. I can't disagree with others that have said if he signs with BU he might start, and give Fears a run for NOY. I hope we land him, he is the kind of athlete a small school has trouble getting. I wouldn't mind if he brought along his pal Wade Knapp either.

I agree. I don't care if we're his #1 or the last possible place he can find, I just want this kid in a BU uniform next year. I want his curly-haired teammate as well.

[OrangeandBlack74]

if we end up being the "fallback plan" wouldnt that almost be a good thing? i mean then the kid comes in with a chip on his shoulder to show up all the other schools that passed on him...maybe schools we could meet in the final 4 next year??? 8)

I don't care what we are if we get him. He seems like a great athlete and being 6-8 and big in the 3/4 would allow him to dominate in the valley. I can't disagree with others that have said if he signs with BU he might start, and give Fears a run for NOY. I hope we land him, he is the kind of athlete a small school has trouble getting. I wouldn't mind if he brought along his pal Wade Knapp either.

I agree. I don't care if we're his #1 or the last possible place he can find, I just want this kid in a BU uniform next year. I want his curly-haired teammate as well.

If BU gets both Coley and Knapp, I dare say BU and SIU would be 1a/1b in the pre-season conference polls next year. :D

[tornado]

I won't say it couldn't happen, and BU has had some decent success with juco kids......but...

Let me remind you that Creighton got the number ONE (#1)
rated junior college player in the nation (by some junior college ranking services) just this past season...2006-2007 and he was a complete bust.

Here are a couple links>

First are some comments about Morrison being Top Ranked:
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:W_sM-KVgJR0J:cincinnati.rivals.com/content.asp%3FSID%3D943%26CID%3D448144+%22ty+morri son%22+and+%22top+ranked%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

And then the first, second, and third team All American jucos with Morrison on the 1st team.
http://cincinnati.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=943&CID=448144

And here's another thought........listed below ore the entire first 5 teams of Juco Preseason All Americans as listed before the 2005-2006 season, and these players would mostly be going into their senior year now, and tell me how many have actually been any impact??

First Team
Center- Hernol Hall 6'10 Lon Morris(TX)
Power Forward- Jerome Habel 6'10" Mt. San Bernadino (CA)
Small Forward- Ty Morrison 6'7" Redlands(OK)
Shooting Guard- Sonny Weems 6'6" Univ. of Arkansas-Ft. Smith(AR)
Point Guard- Carlos Williams 6'2" Wabash Valley (IL)

Second Team
Center- James Davis 7'0" Schoolcraft Community College (MI)
Power Forward- Takais Brown 6'8" Southeastern Illinois Community College (IL)
Small Forward- John Williamson 6'6" Cincinnati Tech Community College (OH)
Shooting Guard- Odarien Bassett Okaloosa-Walton Community College (FL)
Point Guard- Charlie Burgess Howard College (TX)

Third Team
Center- Shawn Taylor 6'10" Chipola College (FL)
Power Forward- Cyrus Tate Northeastern Nebraska Community College (NE)
Small Forward- James Spencer 6'4" Los Angeles City College�(CA)
Shooting Guard- Demetrius Green 6'4" Daytona Beach (FL)
Point Guard- Jamal Smith 5'9" Indian Hills (IA)

Fourth Team
Center- Stanley Billings 6'11" Independence Community College (KS)
Power Forward- Mike White 6'6" Lee College (TX)
Small Forward- Marcus Sikes 6'6" Mt. San Jacinto College (CA)
Shooting Guard- Tony Boykins 6'4" Illinois Valley Community College (IL)
Point Guard- Stefhan Hannah 6'1" Chipola College (FL)

Fifth Team�
Center- Shaun King 6'10" Carl Albert State College (OK)
Power Forward- Josh Love 6'7" Hill College (TX)
Small Forward- D'Mario Curry 6'7" Schoolcraft College (MI)
Shooting Guard- Albert Weber 6'4" Connors State College (OK)
Point Guard- Limar Wilson 5'11" Northeast Nebraska Community College (NE)
http://cincinnati.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=943&CID=448144


Of those 15 top juco kids, only Stefhon Hannah (at Mizzou), Sonny Weems (At Arkansas), and maybe Marcus Sikes at Cincinnati had notable seasons, but only Weems helped his team win and get into post season play.

So all this says about juco kids is that they can be hit or miss but only rarely make a huge impact.
I think Bradley has had as much impact from jucos as just about anyone in the nation the past couple years with Will, Zach, Matt, and Boogie.

[BradleyBrave]

if we end up being the "fallback plan" wouldnt that almost be a good thing? i mean then the kid comes in with a chip on his shoulder to show up all the other schools that passed on him...maybe schools we could meet in the final 4 next year??? 8)

I don't care what we are if we get him. He seems like a great athlete and being 6-8 and big in the 3/4 would allow him to dominate in the valley. I can't disagree with others that have said if he signs with BU he might start, and give Fears a run for NOY. I hope we land him, he is the kind of athlete a small school has trouble getting. I wouldn't mind if he brought along his pal Wade Knapp either.

I agree. I don't care if we're his #1 or the last possible place he can find, I just want this kid in a BU uniform next year. I want his curly-haired teammate as well.

If BU gets both Coley and Knapp, I dare say BU and SIU would be 1a/1b in the pre-season conference polls next year. :D

Perhaps, but I am not going to tease myself into thinking that until we're done with spring recruiting. We've been burned too many times.

[OrangeandBlack74]

if we end up being the "fallback plan" wouldnt that almost be a good thing? i mean then the kid comes in with a chip on his shoulder to show up all the other schools that passed on him...maybe schools we could meet in the final 4 next year??? 8)

I don't care what we are if we get him. He seems like a great athlete and being 6-8 and big in the 3/4 would allow him to dominate in the valley. I can't disagree with others that have said if he signs with BU he might start, and give Fears a run for NOY. I hope we land him, he is the kind of athlete a small school has trouble getting. I wouldn't mind if he brought along his pal Wade Knapp either.

I agree. I don't care if we're his #1 or the last possible place he can find, I just want this kid in a BU uniform next year. I want his curly-haired teammate as well.

If BU gets both Coley and Knapp, I dare say BU and SIU would be 1a/1b in the pre-season conference polls next year. :D

Perhaps, but I am not going to tease myself into thinking that until we're done with spring recruiting. We've been burned too many times.

I understand completely.....but speculating on the chances that one or both may wind up in a BU uniform is part of what makes this message board so enjoyable!

I was very disappointed when Sikes didn't commit to BU last year, as I thought that was a slam dunk. I won't categorize either of these potential commits as a slam dunk, but I hope that they can see the opportunity this team has to be successful next year with them in the mix.

[yourbradleybraves!]

Of those 15 top juco kids, only Stefhon Hannah (at Mizzou), Sonny Weems (At Arkansas), and maybe Marcus Sikes at Cincinnati had notable seasons, but only Weems helped his team win and get into post season play.

Takais Brown (UGA) averaged 14.6 points and 5.6 rebounds, and helped his team get to the NIT.

[Big Mike]

I say you take a guy like CC any way you can get him! :idea: And if he can bring WK along.....that would be just great! :D

[DannyCooksey]

This is from the Missouri St. message board "Let's Go Bears":



"The Peoria Journal Star is saying that Charlie Coley will be visiting Bradley next weekend. They had no scholarships to give going into the spring and now are offering 3. They say their last scholarship will go to either Knapp or Coley.

According to PJS Coley is being pursued by Louisville, Charlotte, and BU. No mention of the Bears. PJS said Knapp was getting interest from Nevada and MSU.

Interestingly enough it appears that Illinois State will also host Coley on that same weekend.

The first two scholarships are coming from Saihou Jassey (transferring) and Dewayne Bueycks failed to qualify the third is a mystery - I believe it is either DeAaron Williams failed to qualify or there is a rumor going around that Daniel Ruffin won't be returning."

Does anyone know if the part about Coley visiting ISU is accurate? I just think it's kinda weird that he would visit BU and ISU in the same weekend. I don't know where this guy heard this, but apparently it came from JucoJunction.

Does anyone know for sure? Also is Coley visiting BU this coming weekend?

[Da Coach]

This is from the Missouri St. message board "Let's Go Bears":

"The Peoria Journal Star is saying that Charlie Coley will be visiting Bradley next weekend. They had no scholarships to give going into the spring and now are offering 3. They say their last scholarship will go to either Knapp or Coley.

According to PJS Coley is being pursued by Louisville, Charlotte, and BU. No mention of the Bears. PJS said Knapp was getting interest from Nevada and MSU.

Interestingly enough it appears that Illinois State will also host Coley on that same weekend.

The first two scholarships are coming from Saihou Jassey (transferring) and Dewayne Bueycks failed to qualify the third is a mystery - I believe it is either DeAaron Williams failed to qualify or there is a rumor going around that Daniel Ruffin won't be returning."

Does anyone know if the part about Coley visiting ISU is accurate? I just think it's kinda weird that he would visit BU and ISU in the same weekend. I don't know where this guy heard this, but apparently it came from JucoJunction.

Does anyone know for sure? Also is Coley visiting BU this coming weekend?

It does sound strange, and it's the first I have heard this. I am a bit skeptical. I have talked to several people with knowledge of the recruitment of Coley, and until now, Illinois State was not one of the schools I heard were recruiting him. It doesn't come from JucoJunction, either. I have a subscription to their premium services, and there is no mention of ISU. If there was, it would appear on his profile page, which it doesn't--
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=56221&sport=2

It's possible the new coach is trying to get involved late?

[DannyCooksey]

This is from the Missouri St. message board "Let's Go Bears":

"The Peoria Journal Star is saying that Charlie Coley will be visiting Bradley next weekend. They had no scholarships to give going into the spring and now are offering 3. They say their last scholarship will go to either Knapp or Coley.

According to PJS Coley is being pursued by Louisville, Charlotte, and BU. No mention of the Bears. PJS said Knapp was getting interest from Nevada and MSU.

Interestingly enough it appears that Illinois State will also host Coley on that same weekend.

The first two scholarships are coming from Saihou Jassey (transferring) and Dewayne Bueycks failed to qualify the third is a mystery - I believe it is either DeAaron Williams failed to qualify or there is a rumor going around that Daniel Ruffin won't be returning."

Does anyone know if the part about Coley visiting ISU is accurate? I just think it's kinda weird that he would visit BU and ISU in the same weekend. I don't know where this guy heard this, but apparently it came from JucoJunction.

Does anyone know for sure? Also is Coley visiting BU this coming weekend?

It does sound strange, and it's the first I have heard this. I am a bit skeptical. I have talked to several people with knowledge of the recruitment of Coley, and until now, Illinois State was not one of the schools I heard were recruiting him. It doesn't come from JucoJunction, either. I have a subscription to their premium services, and there is no mention of ISU. If there was, it would appear on his profile page, which it doesn't--
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=56221&sport=2

It's possible the new coach is trying to get involved late?

Thanks DaCoach

I'm sure it was bull-****. and anyway if it were true, it's probably not gonna happen now that Jackson appears gone.

[shaunguth]

Forget about Illinois State! I think the schools we should worry about are Florida and Kentucky!

It would be an absolute STEAL if Bradley gets this guy! Not to mention, there's still no news of where this phantom scholarship is coming from.

[dogsrus]

Actually IF isu was in on him late and he indeed set up a visit that would be as much if not more reason to worry then those BIG schools IMO.

Why would he go visit ISU if he wasn't interested?

As it is I think we are set. I want him and hope we can some how get him but it would just be icing on the sweet 16 cake.

[houstonbrave]

ESPN reports indicate the Charlotte coach (Bob Lutz) is now the leading candidate at South Alabama which would seem to give us an edge with Coley...but we don't seem to have a scholarship ??

[BradleyBrave]

ESPN reports indicate the Charlotte coach (Bob Lutz) is now the leading candidate at South Alabama which would seem to give us an edge with Coley...but we don't seem to have a scholarship ??

That seems like kind of a step down, doesn't it?

And yes, if there's a coaching change, that would make us the leaders for Coley.

[OrangeandBlack74]

And yes, if there's a coaching change, that would make us the leaders for Coley.

Isn't Louisville also in the mix for Coley?

This scenario is eerily similar to last year, when Sikes appeared to be a lock for BU, and then went to Cincy. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.....

[BradleyBrave]

And yes, if there's a coaching change, that would make us the leaders for Coley.

Isn't Louisville also in the mix for Coley?

This scenario is eerily similar to last year, when Sikes appeared to be a lock for BU, and then went to Cincy. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.....

Coley is visiting Charlotte the week he was supposed to visit Louisville, so it seems as if they're out of the picture.

I agree, some things are similar to Sikes, but we aren't as desperate for Coley as we were for Sikes. Coley is icing on the cake. Sikes was a necessity that didn't come to fruition. I think with David Collins on campus, who just chose BU over Charlotte, the full-court press is going to be on Coley to follow in his footsteps. Unfortunately, that probably means the end of DeAaron Williams or one of our current players at BU if that comes true.

[PeoriaLou]

Unfortunately, that probably means the end of DeAaron Williams or one of our current players at BU if that comes true.


There's your scholly for Coley....

[lake Camelot]

I know he is supposed to be visiting today(The 13nth) I was wondering if anyone knows if he is here for the weekend, or just the 13nth?

[BuBraves55]

is this guy a cellus like player?

[real fan]

Anyone seen any of these recruits this weekend and if Coley leaves without signing does anyone else consider it to be a sign that he will be going elsewhere?

[Da Coach]

is this guy a cellus like player?

More like DeAaron Williams type than a Cellus.

The liklihood of signing him drops off greatly if he doesn't commit here.

[Garland 22]

is this guy a cellus like player?

No, he is very similar to Zack Andrews, a little better basketball player, but very compariable to Zack.

[the daxified one]

you told us to keep you updated on Coley. We just received his LOI. Took a while there was some sort of delay with his mother having to look over the forms. The LOI is in now. So he will be a 49er in the fall.

[tornado]

Thanx, dax, hope we see you in the NCAA Finals!

[the daxified one]

i hope to see that outcome too. Charlotte 49er fans would go crazy.

Some other information on Coley's decision other than the fact that it was closer to home than bradley.

He and our senior sg Leemire goldwire are great friends. They played against each other in high school. So that also might have played into his decision to choose charlotte.

[the daxified one]

hey guys. just wanted to give you an update. we expect to see him for the first time in the summer league games our guys usually participate in. It's more of a laid back league. hosted by NBA player Jeff McGinnis (former tarheel and current member of the bobcats). I'll let you guys know about how good he is or isn't when I see him play.

hope everything is going well with the braves on the recruiting front. good luck next season.

[Da Coach]

Charlie Coley has already started to impress people at Charlotte.

Here are a few articles referring to Coley's jumping ability.
Jim Les obviously could see the athleticism and potential that Charlie Coley had.--

http://www.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=728908
http://www.charlotte.com/niners/story/325067.html
http://www.charlotte.com/sports_breaking/story/321858.html

Here are the dunks he performed at their basketball madness--
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AG8EuZHNVms
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dv9Lo8PtvgU

And finally- here is an NBA site that evaluates Coley's attributes for the NBA draft. His athleticism is rated a 10 out of 10--
http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/charliecoley.html

[survivor]

Charlie Coley has already started to impress people at Charlotte.

Here are a few articles referring to Coley's jumping ability.
Jim Les obviously could see the athleticism and potential that Charlie Coley had.--

http://www.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=728908
http://www.charlotte.com/niners/story/325067.html
http://www.charlotte.com/sports_breaking/story/321858.html

Here are the dunks he performed at their basketball madness--
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AG8EuZHNVms
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dv9Lo8PtvgU

And finally- here is an NBA site that evaluates Coley's attributes for the NBA draft. His athleticism is rated a 10 out of 10--
http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/charliecoley.html

Charlotte fan here. Yep, we're really happy to have him.

I found your site when Charlotte & Bradley were both recruiting David Collins - I'm still saddened that he committed to your school just prior to taking his scheduled visit. :( But Bradley recruited him longer and I hope it turns out he picked a good school with BU.

It looks like we're butting heads once again: http://charlotte.scout.com/a.z?s=428&p=8&c=1&nid=3397119 Thought I'd stop by to see if there was a recruiting thread when I saw this one. Surprising to see Bradley recruiting in the Carolinas.


And as far as Coley goes...if it makes you feel any better, Charlotte put a lot of effort into signing two Palm Beach, Fl recruits several years ago: Alonzo Gee and Leemire Goldwire. Gee, of course, is a star for Alabama - but at one point he looked primed to sign with Charlotte. Goldwire is our star and he's as good as they get - on and off the court.

Charlie Coley was not widely known when Charlotte was scouting around in his hometown - but a relationship was established with him and HC Bobby Lutz. After he blew up in juco - no doubt, Lutz had an edge as a familiar face. Although Coley is still rough-around-the-edges in some aspects - everybody seems really happy to have him.

Good luck this year and hope to see you in the tournament!

[Big Mike]

I see the Odom kid went from a 1 star last week to a 2 star this week?

http://bradley.scout.com/a.z?s=455&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2008

[Da Coach]

I noticed that this morning, too. I don't know what it means, and don't know if Bradley is still in on him.

[Big Mike]

DC.......did Odom sign somewhere today......he is no longer listed under Bradley?

[Da Coach]

I think that Scout.com list might be just the players that have been offered and are not committed elsewhere, and Odom isn't listed there--
http://bradley.scout.com/a.z?s=455&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2008

This is a more complete list (still Scout.com) of all prospects that Bradley has been linked to, and it includes Odom--
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=11&cfg=bb&yr=2008&pid=-1&iSchoolStateProvinceId=-1&iRatingValue=-1&iGetJUCOFlag=-1&iCommitFlag=-1&iGroupbyPosition=0&toinid=511&iInterestLevelId=-1&iOffer=-1&iRecruitVisitFlag=-1&OrderbyColumn=RatingValue

I do not think he has committed anywhere yet.

Darius Johnson-Odom Profile--
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3397119

[lolcats]

The Dunk from Davidson victory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Lhp-iz1A0

Reverse layup and foul from Davidson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7gDwxXA6Cc

Dunk from the Wake victory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvwrOeg9zUY

I figured any basketball fan would enjoy these videos. Looks like we're both having good seasons so far. I hope to see you guys in the tourney! :)

[tornado]

Thanks for those videos......we had a player at BU a couple years ago we called "Boogie" and those dunks remind me of some that Boogie threw down.
Of all the recruits that Bradley has just missed on or who decided to go elsewhere, Coley is one who is consistently putting up good numbers and his team is benefitting.
As I noted elsewhere, Roy Bright may be the only other one putting up good numbers but his team is losing big time to everyone.