2007 BU commitment- David Collins

[Big Mike]

http://www.pjstar.com/php/index.php?/news/peoria_bradley_receives_commitment_from_7_footer/

David Collins........7' 230 lbs..........THATS BIG EH! :D

[dogsrus]

http://www.pjstar.com/php/index.php?/news/peoria_bradley_receives_commitment_from_7_footer/

David Collins........7' 230 lbs..........that's big! :D

Is it Heemskerk BIG or POB big......

[romar]

http://www.pjstar.com/php/index.php?/news/peoria_bradley_receives_commitment_from_7_footer/

David Collins........7' 230 lbs..........that's big! :D

Is it Heemskerk BIG or POB big......

Probably somewhere in between.

[romar]

BU needed a big the fill the middle and keep teams honest on the perimeter. Now it will be interesting to see if Coley is still coming for his April visit?????

[romar]

http://www.pjstar.com/php/index.php?/news/peoria_bradley_receives_commitment_from_7_footer/

David Collins........7' 230 lbs..........that's big! :D

Wow - the JS scooped everyone with this story!! Way to go DR!

[it's boogie time]

I don't like that his coach talked about his ability to shoot from the outside. BU will have 4 other guys on the floor that can shoot from the perimeter. I hope he is a back-to-the-basket post player.

If he gets rebounds, I'm happy.

[dogsrus]

I don't like that his coach talked about his ability to shoot from the outside. BU will have 4 other guys on the floor that can shoot from the perimeter. I hope he is a back-to-the-basket post player.

If he gets rebounds, I'm happy.

Made me think of Levi Dyer.....

[mexicobufan]

His numbers are far from impressive? I dont get this one but I know Jim knows what we need. I wonder if things are not going well with the other bigs?

[Da Coach]

More on David Collins

http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4194

[romar]

I don't like that his coach talked about his ability to shoot from the outside. BU will have 4 other guys on the floor that can shoot from the perimeter. I hope he is a back-to-the-basket post player.

If he gets rebounds, I'm happy.

Made me think of Levi Dyer.....

Eeek - looking at his "stats" we might just be back to trusting the coaching staff.

[mexicobufan]

Any pictures?

[Big Mike]

The PJS article says he runs the floor well......so I have faith in the staff that this kid can help out right away! :wink: I also still think C. Coley will visit...but this is a good move IMO...CC is a 3/4...6'7 @ 205 lbs....we already have guys in that size! :wink:

[audacious_aficionado]

i definitely agree. WE DO NOT WANT AN OUTSIDE SHOOTING BIG MAN!!! we need to work with him and make sure he knows his spot on offense. this is pretty exciting though. no question we needed a juco big this year. hopefully he's more of a POB than a BH. this really excites me for the season though!

[dogsrus]

Stats says he only took 2 threes. Shoots .605 so I'm guessing he does indeed play down low primarily.

[Big Mike]

Here's some rankings on JUCOS.......http://nbadraft.net/maurer005.asp

[Fetz86]

this was a little out of nowhere

[Da Coach]

I know Bradley had offers out to several big men, and with the uncertainty regarding the others, they couldn't afford to get shut out. So when Collins wanted to commit, they had to take him. I believe the coaches will continue to recruit the couple guys they have higher on their list.

[Big Mike]

Looks like the Braves have 3 players on that JUCO list with Cole-Scott PG.....Collins #8 center and D Williams #8 SF! 8)

[tornado]

Wow - the JS scooped everyone with this story!! Way to go DR!

The school and the coaches cannot comment on recruits until they sign a LOI, so if the kid or the kid's coach are sure he is verballing, then they might just call the local paper with the tip, and I suspect that's how this happened.
Dave Reynolds does do a very fine job covering BU basketball.

[Big Mike]

Here's another ranking site....DC is 43....WK is 41!
http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/stories/110806acm.html

[mexicobufan]

Picture?

[thefish7]

Well I will trust the coaching staff on this one. His numbers are unspectacular, not so much the points, but the rebounds... Anyway, if he's a legit 7 footer, and he's athletic he'll be a huge help.

I think I know whose scholarship he has, so it'll be interesting to see if Coley is still coming in, because that'd mean another guy is on his way out. As it stands, if this is the end of our recruiting I'm pretty satisfied.

[tornado]

Here is the updated scholarship grid....
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=40030#40030



***You must view this on a full page window, not a smaller window in order to see the entire graph**

I thought I'd start this as a separate thread, listing all the players who will be rostered and/or using scholarships over the next 5-6 years.


I tried to draw up a recruit chart like the one on the SIU site,
here is the best I can do:


Each D-I team can have 13 players on full scholarship in any given season.

............................2006-2007...2007-2008...2008-2009...2009-2010...2010-2011...2011-2012...2012-1013
Adams, Danny G ...........X...................................... .................................................. ....
Andrews, Zach F ..........X....................................... .................................................. ...
Brown, Ray G ...............X...............X................X. .................................................. ......
Crouch, Jeremy G .........X................X....................... .................................................. .
Fears, Jeremy G............X................X...............X... .................................................. ....
Franklin, Will G .............X.................................... .................................................. ......
Jassey, Saihou F ..........X....................................... .................................................. .
Lavin, Brian.....G....................................... .................................................. ................
Phillips, Ryan G .................................................. .................................................. ......
Jones, Kevin G................................................. .................................................. .........
Ruffin, Daniel G.............X................X.................. .................................................. ......
Salley, Matt F ..............X................X.................. .................................................. ......
Singh, Sam F/C.............X................X...............X.. .............(X).................................. ....
Tauai, J.J. G ................X................................. .................................................. ........
Warren, Andrew G.........X................X................X..... ...........X......................................
Buycks, Dwight G.............................................X... .............X................X................X.. ...
Egolf, Will F/C.................................X............... .X................X................X.............. .......
Maniscalco, Sam G..........................X................X..... ...........X................X....................
Thompson, Anthony C......................X................X......... .......X................X.....................
Williams, DeAaron G/F......................X................X......... ...............................................
West, Daniel G................................................. X................X.................X.............. ..X...
?Crawford, Xavier F/C........................................X........ ........X......................................
Tyrone Cole-Scott..........................X................X. .................................................. ........
David Collins..................................X........ ........X......................................... ................


Available Scholarships:
2007-2008 -- NONE
2008-2009 -- NONE
2010-2011 -- SIX if Crawford is still coming to BU, and only 5 if Singh gets granted an extra hardship year.
2011-2012 -- EIGHT
2012-2013 -- Eleven

It is possible that Sam Singh could petition the NCAA and get one more year of eligibility in 2009-2010.

[Big Mike]

I've tried everything I know(which isn't a lot) on the net and have not come up with a picture yet :oops: ....the only chance would be to pick one up from a newspaper action shot? :-o

[it's boogie time]

The current roster for next year is actually starting to become balanced with this verbal commitment. There's now going to be five post players. Granted, only one is proven. The talent is obviously in the backcourt, but this seems to give hope to Bradley's weakest link.

[amckillip]

Well I will trust the coaching staff on this one. His numbers are unspectacular, not so much the points, but the rebounds... Anyway, if he's a legit 7 footer, and he's athletic he'll be a huge help.

I think I know whose scholarship he has, so it'll be interesting to see if Coley is still coming in, because that'd mean another guy is on his way out. As it stands, if this is the end of our recruiting I'm pretty satisfied.

I am happy with our recruiting, but I sure want Coley. I really hope we can get him somehow. From what I've read he could take us from competing for the title to being the team to beat.

[BradleyBrave]

I know Bradley had offers out to several big men, and with the uncertainty regarding the others, they couldn't afford to get shut out. So when Collins wanted to commit, they had to take him. I believe the coaches will continue to recruit the couple guys they have higher on their list.

Agree 100%. We wouldn't offer a scholarship if we didn't envision the kid playing for us or didn't think he was good enough. Sure, the staff has their preferences and an order that they'd like to get the players, but they wouldn't offer if they didn't want the guy. He wants to be at BU, had decent programs after him (UNC-Charlotte, San Diego St), and has something you just can't teach in his 7 foot frame. This is a good get for BU, and give me more confidence that we'll get another kid in the next week or so.

[thefish7]

Coley's a good looking player (as is Knapp) but I don't know if I'm in a hurry to get him because a scholarship is open for DeAaron Williams for example. Time will tell, if he visits campus, then evidently somebody's leaving.

[BradleyBrave]

One, possibly 2 more scholarships may still become available. The Van Coleman ratings made me even more excited about this committment. In our system, a player of his size can be invaluable if he can rebound, defend, and run the floor. 7 footers with athleticism are hard to find, and can dominate a league like the Valley. Let's get him working with Ronnie Wright and Lennox Forrester and see what we can make out of this kid.

The front line is looking a little better with 6'7" Salley, 7'0" Collins, 6'11" Thompson, and 6'9" Egolf. Adding one more would have us all set.

[amckillip]

Coley's a good looking player (as is Knapp) but I don't know if I'm in a hurry to get him because a scholarship is open for DeAaron Williams for example. Time will tell, if he visits campus, then evidently somebody's leaving.

To be honest, if it came down to it, I'd take Coley over DW. If DW graduates I would not want to give away his scholarship, I don't think that's fair, but who knows about all of that but I don't wanna get off topic here, theres a whole thread about this.

[Big Mike]

So next week we can get LOI's from Cole-Scott and Collins to make them official....right....am I missing anyone else? :?

[amckillip]

So next week we can get LOI's from Cole-Scott and Collins to make them official....right....am I missing anyone else? :?

Nope, not yet

[Big Mike]

I know it's early.............but next years recruiting class is really starting to get me pumped! 8) And it might not be over! :mrgreen:

HECK.......they might have to change the conference name to the BIG VALLEY just to accommodate all the new Braves! :-o :lol:

[Da Coach]

Picture?

David Collins is #4--
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/bkb2005/DavidCollins.jpg

[thefish7]

Coley's a good looking player (as is Knapp) but I don't know if I'm in a hurry to get him because a scholarship is open for DeAaron Williams for example. Time will tell, if he visits campus, then evidently somebody's leaving.

To be honest, if it came down to it, I'd take Coley over DW. If DW graduates I would not want to give away his scholarship, I don't think that's fair, but who knows about all of that but I don't wanna get off topic here, theres a whole thread about this.

There's two reasons why I would not (besides the one you mentioned where if he does qualify we have to take him):
1. Williams has already played at the D1 level, so I think there's less of a chance of a JUCO flop with him.
2. He's a Peoria kid. I like local recruiting and by having more local players BU can maybe get some of the top P-town talent coming to school.

[Big Mike]

WOW DC..........you are DA-MAN! :-o 8)

[BuBraves55]

idk about this fella- looking at his stats they aren't too impressive

[audacious_aficionado]

what's with WK? are we looking at him or something?

[amckillip]

what's with WK? are we looking at him or something?

We were, but we are probably not anymore with the signing of David Collins.

[Beninator]

I was starting to get fired up about next year but now I can hardly wait! :) If a spot opens up for Coley, then we could have something special.imo

[BradleyBrave]

what's with WK? are we looking at him or something?

We were, but we are probably not anymore with the signing of David Collins.

We still are. If anything this might put a little pressure on Coley and Knapp to verbal here, and maybe make our situation a little better in that Coley/Knapp can play their natural 4 spot with DC in the middle.

[audacious_aficionado]

sounds like collins is a guy we can hopefully build a team around.

[BradleyBrave]

sounds like collins is a guy we can hopefully build a team around.

I think the team is already built. Hopefully DC can come in and fill the role of rebounder, defender, shot-blocker, and finisher in the paint. We have all of the other pieces already in place.

[dogsrus]

sounds like collins is a guy we can hopefully build a team around.

I think the team is already built. Hopefully DC can come in and fill the role of rebounder, defender, shot-blocker, and finisher in the paint. We have all of the other pieces already in place.

Yes I agree...this isn't POB (building around him had he stayed 4 years) this is more a piece to complement whats allready in place, as you stated.

This is a Matt Salley signing with 5 more inches in height.....

[Big Mike]

Forget the RED/White........how-a-bout a midnight madness to watch all the newbies? :-o :mrgreen:

[BradleyBrave]

sounds like collins is a guy we can hopefully build a team around.

I think the team is already built. Hopefully DC can come in and fill the role of rebounder, defender, shot-blocker, and finisher in the paint. We have all of the other pieces already in place.

Yes I agree...this isn't POB (building around him had he stayed 4 years) this is more a piece to complement whats allready in place, as you stated.

This is a Matt Salley signing with 5 more inches in height.....

This guy needs to be a little better than Salley. Salley did his best and did contribute, but was very weak around the basket and with the basketball IMO.

[amckillip]

sounds like collins is a guy we can hopefully build a team around.

I think the team is already built. Hopefully DC can come in and fill the role of rebounder, defender, shot-blocker, and finisher in the paint. We have all of the other pieces already in place.

Yes I agree...this isn't POB (building around him had he stayed 4 years) this is more a piece to complement whats allready in place, as you stated.

This is a Matt Salley signing with 5 more inches in height.....

Are you sayin were not built around Matt Salley? Come on he's carrying on the double deuce legacy. No I agree were not building a team aorund him. I think the way our teams works now where we're not built around any one person as we have been in the past. Which I really like and think it allows to develop and perfect a system, rather than a player.

[Da Coach]

David Collins is not going to be a big scorer. But, when it comes to big men at Jucos, don't trust the stats too much. Usually the guards lead these juco schools in scoring, take most of the shots, hog the ball, and average very few assists. The big men just don't get the ball very much. They are all vying to get attention and a scholarship to a 4 year school.

Here are a few other examples--
Jason Francis- he is 6'9", 275 lbs. and is the #76 rated juco player in the US. He is being recruited by a couple big East programs and by Rhode Island. He is averaging 6.7 ppg and 5.5 rpg according to the 4/4/07 Jucojunction article.--
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=55271

Cassin Diggs- is a 6'10" center who signed with Pitt last November and had a bunch of other majors vying for him as well as Bradley. He is the #1 center prospect in Jucojunctions list. His final averages for 2007 were 9.9 ppg and 6 rpg.
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=656958
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=26472&Sport=2

Quentin Thornton, who is signed to LSU--
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=24863&Sport=2

Ricardo De Bem, who chose Texas Tech over Indiana and Tennesee--
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=57551&Sport=2

Desmond Hendrix, who started the season as the #1 rated center and committed to LSU, but withdrew his committment. He averaged just 4 ppg and 4.3 rpg.--
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=51979&Sport=2

D'Lancy Carter- a 6'9" center from Vincennes is being recruited by Illinois State and a bunch of others, mostly majors. He has been offered by Rhode Island. He averages just 4.1 ppg.--
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=55547

These and many more of the top centers and power forwards on Jucojunction's list averaged well under 10 points per game.

Here is the Jucojunction listing of Juco rankings.
The stats for all jucos can be found at www.njcaa.org

[amckillip]

David Collins is not going to be a big scorer. But, when it comes to big men at Jucos, don't trust the stats too much. Usually the guards lead these juco schools in scoring, take most of the shots, hog the ball, and average very few assists. The big men just don't get the ball very much. They are all vying to get attention and a scholarship to a 4 year school.

I don't know much about him but is it unreasonable to expect 8-10, 7-9, and 1.5?

[BuBraves55]

honestly id rather have dw over here any day compared to collins but hopefully he'll be alright

[Big Mike]

I remember people saying the Will Franklin signing wasn't that good....he was only a back-up recruit.....doesn't score enough pts........but once this staff gets a hold of you....good things happen boys......BOOK IT! :D

[BradleyBrave]

Great post by Da Coach. This guy could score 10+ ppg in our system. It's hard to find 7 footers, we should be excited about the dimension it can add to our team.

[BradleyBrave]

David Collins is not going to be a big scorer. But, when it comes to big men at Jucos, don't trust the stats too much. Usually the guards lead these juco schools in scoring, take most of the shots, hog the ball, and average very few assists. The big men just don't get the ball very much. They are all vying to get attention and a scholarship to a 4 year school.

I don't know much about him but is it unreasonable to expect 8-10, 7-9, and 1.5?

I'd wait until he gets on campus this summer and perhaps until we see him in red-white before tabbing him for numbers, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. 7 footers with basketball skills and athleticism, even when a step slow and/or not fully developed, can thrive in the MVC. It sounds like this guy has both.

[BradleyBrave]

honestly id rather have dw over here any day compared to collins but hopefully he'll be alright

DW has a scholarship, and plays a different position. We needed a big guy, not a slashing perimeter player.

[dogsrus]

sounds like collins is a guy we can hopefully build a team around.

I think the team is already built. Hopefully DC can come in and fill the role of rebounder, defender, shot-blocker, and finisher in the paint. We have all of the other pieces already in place.

Yes I agree...this isn't POB (building around him had he stayed 4 years) this is more a piece to complement whats allready in place, as you stated.

This is a Matt Salley signing with 5 more inches in height.....

This guy needs to be a little better than Salley. Salley did his best and did contribute, but was very weak around the basket and with the basketball IMO.

Sorry didn't mean Salley in terms of talent but moreso as to what he meant in terms of need.

[BuBraves55]

honestly id rather have dw over here any day compared to collins but hopefully he'll be alright

DW has a scholarship, and plays a different position. We needed a big guy, not a slashing perimeter player.
i agree about the big guy i guess i should have said i would like to see dw actually make it here maybe instead of ss

[Da Coach]

It's amazing the interest the signing of a big man generates. This thread has been going for just 2 1/2 hours and has 56 replies and almost 700 views. Unbelieveable!

Here is an article from ChicagoHoops.com, usually the first site in the Illinois region to pick up on Bradley and other college commitments--
Head Coach Jim Les And The Bradley Braves Land 7-0 Juco Center David Collins From Missouri State-West Plains
http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/collinsbradley.html

[Big Mike]

NICE I like it! 8) Can't wait for the full article in the PJS tomorrow! :D

[Dallas Brave]

It's amazing the interest the signing of a big man generates. This thread has been going for just 2 1/2 hours and has 56 replies and almost 700 views. Unbelieveable!

Here is an article from ChicagoHoops.com, usually the first site in the Illinois region to pick up on Bradley and other college commitments--
Head Coach Jim Les And The Bradley Braves Land 7-0 Juco Center David Collins From Missouri State-West Plains
http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/collinsbradley.html

If Chicgo Hoops is not stretching it too much in saying, "The 7-0 Collins is a long and highly active player on both ends of the basketball court. His length, athleticism and ability to run the floor make him an ideal fit for the Bradley system" then this signing is fantastic.

[dogsrus]

It's amazing the interest the signing of a big man generates. This thread has been going for just 2 1/2 hours and has 56 replies and almost 700 views. Unbelieveable!

Here is an article from ChicagoHoops.com, usually the first site in the Illinois region to pick up on Bradley and other college commitments--
Head Coach Jim Les And The Bradley Braves Land 7-0 Juco Center David Collins From Missouri State-West Plains
http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/collinsbradley.html

If Chicgo Hoops is not stretching it too much in saying, "The 7-0 Collins is a long and highly active player on both ends of the basketball court. His length, athleticism and ability to run the floor make him an ideal fit for the Bradley system" then this signing is fantastic.

DB....perhaps we will be watching him together with a few other Brave fans at the San Padre Shootout then discussing a BU win over a couple cold ones and victory cigars at a local Texas golf course. :lol:

[Da Coach]

Now this thread has almost 1000 views in less than 3 1/2 hours. I am sure that's some kind of record. Some threads take weeks to get to 1000 views, and of course, some never get there.
It shows the resurgent interest in this team, and in next year.

[bugregshu]

David Collins is number 4.


http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/2600/2071007800091982100S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2071007800091982100MpUoHV)

http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/3637/2425935740091982100S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2425935740091982100tFNAqA)

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/4946/2507672060091982100S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2507672060091982100skIUcJ)

[Big Mike]

nice find greg! 8)

[thefish7]

God I can't wait for November! The signing has me very excited about the better team balance now that we have close to a regular number of bigs on the team.

[BU Bill]

I saw a post on the Valleytalk board about David Collins having broken his leg last summer. That slowed him and limited his playing time, especially early in the season.

[romar]

Just looking ahead a little & in 2008-09 if everything pans out BU will have 3 guys 6'10-7' tall (Collins, Thomspon & XC) and two more @ 6'9 (Egolf & SS). You have to admit that JL has brought alot of excitement back to BU. On Valleytalk there are posts from a couple of guys who have actually seen Collins play and they are fairly complimentary.

[oilerpimp]

This guy is seven foot tall and appears to have some bulk on him. This alone makes him a slightly better-than-average addition to our '07-'08 Braves. Throw in the word athletic, as he's been described, and I think he becomes a GREAT pick up for us. We don't need a scoring center right now. We need somone to stand in that colored rectangle and be an intimidating presence. He also needs to be somone who can rebound. I think we have both in Mr. Collins.

Now...bring on Mr. Coley!!! :D

[Da Coach]

Another mention on CSTV site--

http://slog.cstv.com/hodgereport_bb/2007/04/70_center_headed_to_bradley.html

Here is the CSTV list of new incoming recruits for Bradley. Add Jeremy Fears to this list (and subtract Dwight Butcks), and it could take a bit of time to get everyone adjusted to playing with each other.

http://interact.cstv.com/recruiting/searchrecruit.cfm?sport=basketball&dbyear=06&school_name=brad

[BradleyBrave]

Another mention on CSTV site--

http://slog.cstv.com/hodgereport_bb/2007/04/70_center_headed_to_bradley.html

Here is the CSTV list of new incoming recruits for Bradley. Add Jeremy Fears to this list (and subtract Dwight Butcks), and it could take a bit of time to get everyone adjusted to playing with each other.

http://interact.cstv.com/recruiting/searchrecruit.cfm?sport=basketball&dbyear=06&school_name=brad

Very true. What is a positive though is that our core is for the most part intact from last year. Ruffin, Crouch, and Salley all started and played major minutes. Warren played all year. Fears and Brown practiced with the team all season, so they aren't starting from scratch either. That is a solid base. Bringing in a couple guys to fill holes hopefully won't be too difficult. It could take a bit to get used to each other, but hopefully it won't take too long.

[IheartBU]

Biggest thing to hit BU basketball since the NIT and I sleep through it ... go figure ...

OK, me being a girl, the thing that strikes me most about this guy is the big grin he's got on his face in all the posed shots you guys dug up. This kid looks like he loves to play basketball, and I think JL and his crew (LF or not) can work with him.

[One rabid squirrel]

Jumping back a bit in the conversation, if he can shoot out to 17 feet, I'd consider that a bonus as long as he doesn't think of himself as a jump shooter. Force the opponent's center to step outside with him and free up the lane occasionally.

Granted this without knowing who would likely be gone beyond the DW grade questions, but if Bradley were to still get Knapp or Coley, that would have to signal the death knell to the four guard offense being a regular feature, right? Especially if Egolf is ready to contribute at least a few minutes. Although I guess I could see Les occasionally still going small with Brown at the 4 if Collins is playing.

Looks like this could be a really good get. If he can play interior defense and rebound, it will go a long way toward Bradley being successful next year.

[Big Mike]

Todays PJS on David collins and the official press from JL that SJ will not be back.

http://www.pjstar.com/stories/040507/BRA_BCRIMAKG.071.php

[Dallas Brave]

It's amazing the interest the signing of a big man generates. This thread has been going for just 2 1/2 hours and has 56 replies and almost 700 views. Unbelieveable!

Here is an article from ChicagoHoops.com, usually the first site in the Illinois region to pick up on Bradley and other college commitments--
Head Coach Jim Les And The Bradley Braves Land 7-0 Juco Center David Collins From Missouri State-West Plains
http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/collinsbradley.html

If Chicgo Hoops is not stretching it too much in saying, "The 7-0 Collins is a long and highly active player on both ends of the basketball court. His length, athleticism and ability to run the floor make him an ideal fit for the Bradley system" then this signing is fantastic.

DB....perhaps we will be watching him together with a few other Brave fans at the San Padre Shootout then discussing a BU win over a couple cold ones and victory cigars at a local Texas golf course. :lol:

Don't forget the sailboat!

[it's boogie time]

Thanks for the pictures. I'm warming up to this recruit. I'm thinking a summer with Ronnie Wright will help this kid. I'm trying to figure out how Collins doesn't have more blocks.

Jumping back a bit in the conversation, if he can shoot out to 17 feet, I'd consider that a bonus as long as he doesn't think of himself as a jump shooter. Force the opponent's center to step outside with him and free up the lane occasionally.

Big men that can shoot from the outside tend to gravitate to the perimeter and shy away from contact. Plus, it's hard to get rebounds when roaming the perimeter. I like having that one or two low post player that the only shot over eight feet is a free throw.

When considering all options, I'm usually happy when the other team's center shoots a mid-range jumper. The center has to be a really good shooter to draw the defender out consistantly.

[tornado]

An active 7-footer can definitely change the game, and neutralize players like Eric Coleman, Randall Falker, etc.

Several recruiting sites have premium articles already posted on Collins' committment, and I expect a few others will soon also.

I can let some of you know by PM or e mail what the subscription articles say, let me know..........

[JT#32]

I want to thank the fans who make Bradleyfans.com possible, and those who contribute here.
This is a great place to read and keep up with all things Bradley. I can't believe there wasn't a place like this before Bradleyfans started, but now we have everything we need as fans.
Thanks to this site, we have known about David Collins for about a year. I remembered reading about this big kid after last season's Sweet 16. So I looked it up, and here were the early posts reporting about Collins.

http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=20333#20333
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=21923#21923
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4194
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=30521#30521

Thanks again for the great stuff.

[dogsrus]

It's amazing the interest the signing of a big man generates. This thread has been going for just 2 1/2 hours and has 56 replies and almost 700 views. Unbelieveable!

Here is an article from ChicagoHoops.com, usually the first site in the Illinois region to pick up on Bradley and other college commitments--
Head Coach Jim Les And The Bradley Braves Land 7-0 Juco Center David Collins From Missouri State-West Plains
http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/collinsbradley.html

If Chicgo Hoops is not stretching it too much in saying, "The 7-0 Collins is a long and highly active player on both ends of the basketball court. His length, athleticism and ability to run the floor make him an ideal fit for the Bradley system" then this signing is fantastic.

DB....perhaps we will be watching him together with a few other Brave fans at the San Padre Shootout then discussing a BU win over a couple cold ones and victory cigars at a local Texas golf course. :lol:

Don't forget the sailboat!


"A" sailboat or "the" sailboat.......IF you have one we may never leave :lol: .

Hoping to speak with KK soon to see the chances that BU is indeed looking at this tournament.

[Beninator]

Jumping back a bit in the conversation, if he can shoot out to 17 feet, I'd consider that a bonus as long as he doesn't think of himself as a jump shooter. Force the opponent's center to step outside with him and free up the lane occasionally.

Granted this without knowing who would likely be gone beyond the DW grade questions, but if Bradley were to still get Knapp or Coley, that would have to signal the death knell to the four guard offense being a regular feature, right? Especially if Egolf is ready to contribute at least a few minutes. Although I guess I could see Les occasionally still going small with Brown at the 4 if Collins is playing.

Looks like this could be a really good get. If he can play interior defense and rebound, it will go a long way toward Bradley being successful next year.

I dont think that this will be the death knell to the four guard offense. In my opinion, the addition of Collins means that we can diversify our offensive schemes. This gives BU much more depth and will make it more difficult to scout BU. Of course this all depends on how well Collins can adapt to playing here.

[BradleyBrave]

Jumping back a bit in the conversation, if he can shoot out to 17 feet, I'd consider that a bonus as long as he doesn't think of himself as a jump shooter. Force the opponent's center to step outside with him and free up the lane occasionally.

Granted this without knowing who would likely be gone beyond the DW grade questions, but if Bradley were to still get Knapp or Coley, that would have to signal the death knell to the four guard offense being a regular feature, right? Especially if Egolf is ready to contribute at least a few minutes. Although I guess I could see Les occasionally still going small with Brown at the 4 if Collins is playing.

Looks like this could be a really good get. If he can play interior defense and rebound, it will go a long way toward Bradley being successful next year.

I dont think that this will be the death knell to the four guard offense. In my opinion, the addition of Collins means that we can diversify our offensive schemes. This gives BU much more depth and will make it more difficult to scout BU. Of course this all depends on how well Collins can adapt to playing here.

Death knell? Hardly. A good big man is what makes the 4-guard offense go! A good, rebounding big keys the break on the defensive end, and draws the defense on the offensive end. All he needs to be able to do is rebound, defend, run the floor, and finish around the basket to be an invaluable part of the 4 guard offense. Sounds like that fits Collins' skillset perfectly.

[Chucky T's]

If Collins is an offensive threat at all it just gives the team another option to score...I agree, it will make things just that much more difficult for opposing teams when they work on their game plans for BU....

[One rabid squirrel]

Jumping back a bit in the conversation, if he can shoot out to 17 feet, I'd consider that a bonus as long as he doesn't think of himself as a jump shooter. Force the opponent's center to step outside with him and free up the lane occasionally.

Big men that can shoot from the outside tend to gravitate to the perimeter and shy away from contact. Plus, it's hard to get rebounds when roaming the perimeter. I like having that one or two low post player that the only shot over eight feet is a free throw.

When considering all options, I'm usually happy when the other team's center shoots a mid-range jumper. The center has to be a really good shooter to draw the defender out consistantly.

But didn't someone say he shot 60% from the field? So either he is that good of a shooter or, more likely, he just takes one or two a game if left open. Like I said, if he can do it but doesn't think of that as his primary offensive game. But you're right, the mindset is key.

I'm sorry, I'm also a Wisconsin Badger fan, and I guess I'm still having nightmares about Oden being able to clog the lane in part because he didn't have to guard Jason Chappell beyond 5 feet from the hoop, even when he had the ball.

[One rabid squirrel]

Jumping back a bit in the conversation, if he can shoot out to 17 feet, I'd consider that a bonus as long as he doesn't think of himself as a jump shooter. Force the opponent's center to step outside with him and free up the lane occasionally.

Granted this without knowing who would likely be gone beyond the DW grade questions, but if Bradley were to still get Knapp or Coley, that would have to signal the death knell to the four guard offense being a regular feature, right? Especially if Egolf is ready to contribute at least a few minutes. Although I guess I could see Les occasionally still going small with Brown at the 4 if Collins is playing.

Looks like this could be a really good get. If he can play interior defense and rebound, it will go a long way toward Bradley being successful next year.

I dont think that this will be the death knell to the four guard offense. In my opinion, the addition of Collins means that we can diversify our offensive schemes. This gives BU much more depth and will make it more difficult to scout BU. Of course this all depends on how well Collins can adapt to playing here.

Death knell? Hardly. A good big man is what makes the 4-guard offense go! A good, rebounding big keys the break on the defensive end, and draws the defense on the offensive end. All he needs to be able to do is rebound, defend, run the floor, and finish around the basket to be an invaluable part of the 4 guard offense. Sounds like that fits Collins' skillset perfectly.

I agree, but if we get Coley too, doesn't it become a numbers game? If Egolf is as ready to contribute as some say, and of course the JUCOs don't disappoint, that gives you at least 4 big men to find minutes for, and everyone seems to be in agreement that if you get Coley, you shouldn't be playing him a lot at the 5. I'm not saying that you don't use it occasionally as a change of pace or to take advantage of matchups, and if we don't get Coley, a Ruffin, Fears, Crouch, Brown, Collins lineup could be pretty exciting (and I doubt, no matter what, that we revert to the inside-out offensive mindset of the Sweet 16 year). It's just that the more depth we have on the interior, the more likely it is that the 4-guard won't be our default lineup.

[amckillip]

I agree, but if we get Coley too, doesn't it become a numbers game? If Egolf is as ready to contribute as some say, and of course the JUCOs don't disappoint, that gives you at least 4 big men to find minutes for, and everyone seems to be in agreement that if you get Coley, you shouldn't be playing him a lot at the 5. I'm not saying that you don't use it occasionally as a change of pace or to take advantage of matchups, and if we don't get Coley, a Ruffin, Fears, Crouch, Brown, Collins lineup could be pretty exciting (and I doubt, no matter what, that we revert to the inside-out offensive mindset of the Sweet 16 year). It's just that the more depth we have on the interior, the more likely it is that the 4-guard won't be our default lineup.

Don't forget Salley, now that we have a true 5 I wouldn't be surprised if we see Salley at the 4, his natural position. Now that we have a little depth at big man and our starter (cross your fingers) isn't in perpetual foul trouble we could, without Coley, play 2 Big Men. People forget that Salley was effective last year, 7 and 5 in 21 minutes a game, shooting .500, at the D1 level, and we're excited about just a bit better stats from a JUCO. Don't get me wrong I'm excited about Collins and the fact that he is a solid 7 footer, but don't forget what Salley can do after another summer in the weight room, more minutes, and a years worth of experience.

[georgethedog]

Jumping back a bit in the conversation, if he can shoot out to 17 feet, I'd consider that a bonus as long as he doesn't think of himself as a jump shooter. Force the opponent's center to step outside with him and free up the lane occasionally.

Granted this without knowing who would likely be gone beyond the DW grade questions, but if Bradley were to still get Knapp or Coley, that would have to signal the death knell to the four guard offense being a regular feature, right? Especially if Egolf is ready to contribute at least a few minutes. Although I guess I could see Les occasionally still going small with Brown at the 4 if Collins is playing.

Looks like this could be a really good get. If he can play interior defense and rebound, it will go a long way toward Bradley being successful next year.

I dont think that this will be the death knell to the four guard offense. In my opinion, the addition of Collins means that we can diversify our offensive schemes. This gives BU much more depth and will make it more difficult to scout BU. Of course this all depends on how well Collins can adapt to playing here.

And the 4 guard offense got us where? NIT second round... not bad, but... :wink:

[it's boogie time]

Don't forget Salley,

I believe that Matt Salley's improvement may be one of the most important aspects of the upcoming season. He's going to be the main guy setting the screen in the 2 man pick and roll offense.

[ph]

I agree, but if we get Coley too, doesn't it become a numbers game? If Egolf is as ready to contribute as some say, and of course the JUCOs don't disappoint, that gives you at least 4 big men to find minutes for, and everyone seems to be in agreement that if you get Coley, you shouldn't be playing him a lot at the 5. I'm not saying that you don't use it occasionally as a change of pace or to take advantage of matchups, and if we don't get Coley, a Ruffin, Fears, Crouch, Brown, Collins lineup could be pretty exciting (and I doubt, no matter what, that we revert to the inside-out offensive mindset of the Sweet 16 year). It's just that the more depth we have on the interior, the more likely it is that the 4-guard won't be our default lineup.

Don't forget Salley, now that we have a true 5 I wouldn't be surprised if we see Salley at the 4, his natural position. Now that we have a little depth at big man and our starter (cross your fingers) isn't in perpetual foul trouble we could, without Coley, play 2 Big Men. People forget that Salley was effective last year, 7 and 5 in 21 minutes a game, shooting .500, at the D1 level, and we're excited about just a bit better stats from a JUCO. Don't get me wrong I'm excited about Collins and the fact that he is a solid 7 footer, but don't forget what Salley can do after another summer in the weight room, more minutes, and a years worth of experience.

I agree that BU will still have to rely on other big men. I am not sure if you can pencil in Collins for more than 20 min a game. (Can Singh do a JC like improvement this summer and fill in quality minutes?) That still leaves about 20 minutes to fill with others, or different options.

[tornado]

Now this thread has almost 1000 views in less than 3 1/2 hours. I am sure that's some kind of record. Some threads take weeks to get to 1000 views, and of course, some never get there.
It shows the resurgent interest in this team, and in next year.

I agree, it reflects clear evidence of soaring interest in Bradley basketball....especially considering we are now into the off season!

Now this thread has well over 2000 views and closing in on 100 responses.
No other thread going back over 100 pages even touched it, not the ones on the Providence game, the VCU game, and it's on solid pace to become the all time most active post ever on BradleyFans.

At this point, on the basis of views and responses, here is the busiest post of all time, 95 responses + 4761 views
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4500

[dogsrus]

Jumping back a bit in the conversation, if he can shoot out to 17 feet, I'd consider that a bonus as long as he doesn't think of himself as a jump shooter. Force the opponent's center to step outside with him and free up the lane occasionally.

Granted this without knowing who would likely be gone beyond the DW grade questions, but if Bradley were to still get Knapp or Coley, that would have to signal the death knell to the four guard offense being a regular feature, right? Especially if Egolf is ready to contribute at least a few minutes. Although I guess I could see Les occasionally still going small with Brown at the 4 if Collins is playing.

Looks like this could be a really good get. If he can play interior defense and rebound, it will go a long way toward Bradley being successful next year.

I dont think that this will be the death knell to the four guard offense. In my opinion, the addition of Collins means that we can diversify our offensive schemes. This gives BU much more depth and will make it more difficult to scout BU. Of course this all depends on how well Collins can adapt to playing here.

And the 4 guard offense got us where? NIT second round... not bad, but... :wink:



but.....it was the first year we ran it AND we were undermanned IMO. Give all the returners another year of it, more height, depth and the coaching staff time to perfect it and it only gets better.

To me its just a fancy name anyway. We still take open looks, try to pound it inside if available, cut, slash, set picks, etc.

[dogsrus]

Now this thread has almost 1000 views in less than 3 1/2 hours. I am sure that's some kind of record. Some threads take weeks to get to 1000 views, and of course, some never get there.
It shows the resurgent interest in this team, and in next year.

I agree, it reflects clear evidence of soaring interest in Bradley basketball....especially considering we are now into the off season!

Now this thread has well over 2000 views and closing in on 100 responses.
No other thread going back over 100 pages even touched it, not the ones on the Providence game, the VCU game, and it's on solid pace to become the all time most active post ever on BradleyFans.

At this point, on the basis of views and responses, here is the busiest post of all time, 95 responses + 4761 views
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4500

Just wait till Coley verbals...better order more bandwidth :lol:

[Beninator]

Now this thread has almost 1000 views in less than 3 1/2 hours. I am sure that's some kind of record. Some threads take weeks to get to 1000 views, and of course, some never get there.
It shows the resurgent interest in this team, and in next year.

I agree, it reflects clear evidence of soaring interest in Bradley basketball....especially considering we are now into the off season!

Now this thread has well over 2000 views and closing in on 100 responses.
No other thread going back over 100 pages even touched it, not the ones on the Providence game, the VCU game, and it's on solid pace to become the all time most active post ever on BradleyFans.

At this point, on the basis of views and responses, here is the busiest post of all time, 95 responses + 4761 views
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4500

Just wait till Coley verbals...better order more bandwidth :lol:

DRU, if Coley commits to BU then you might as well shut down this site as a result of too much traffic! :)

[real fan]

Salley will be a better player with another big on the floor at the same time; I thought Matt did fairly well considering he was the only forward on the floor with 4 guards and it was his first year of d1 basketball; we now have 7-0 collins, 6-7 salley, 6-9 singh, 6-10 thompson, and 6-9 egolf to go with 6-6 brown, 6-5 williams, 6-5 crouch, 6-5 warren, 6-4 fears, 6-0 maniscalco, 5-10 ruffin, and 5-10 cole-scott; this is a great balance of size and speed; coley or knapp may be a backup plan if williams cannot get in.

[tornado]

Consistent with what it represents.....
when the "Founders" "built" BradleyFans,
they had the foresight to not only design it to be a great
fan website, but they started right off with sufficient bandwidth
and traffic capacity to handle the loads well into the future.
In other words, BradleyFans is built like a Brick ***house and better than a Mack Truck.
NO EFFORT was spared to make BradleyFans the best fan site in the Valley,
for sure, but also quite possibly one of the best in the nation.
I have been told from informed sources, that we have never
yet exceeded even 1/10th of the allotted bandwidth, so since that's the case.........

BRING IT ON!!

[houstontxbrave]

It's amazing the interest the signing of a big man generates. This thread has been going for just 2 1/2 hours and has 56 replies and almost 700 views. Unbelieveable!

Here is an article from ChicagoHoops.com, usually the first site in the Illinois region to pick up on Bradley and other college commitments--
Head Coach Jim Les And The Bradley Braves Land 7-0 Juco Center David Collins From Missouri State-West Plains
http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/collinsbradley.html

If Chicgo Hoops is not stretching it too much in saying, "The 7-0 Collins is a long and highly active player on both ends of the basketball court. His length, athleticism and ability to run the floor make him an ideal fit for the Bradley system" then this signing is fantastic.

DB....perhaps we will be watching him together with a few other Brave fans at the San Padre Shootout then discussing a BU win over a couple cold ones and victory cigars at a local Texas golf course. :lol:

Don't forget the sailboat!


"A" sailboat or "the" sailboat.......IF you have one we may never leave :lol: .

Hoping to speak with KK soon to see the chances that BU is indeed looking at this tournament.

Dog and DB your two are talking about South Padre, is that dreaming or is BU expected to participate in the tourney? Htown is 8 hours approximently from South Padre perfect excuse to miss Tday and get some sun and BU basketball.

[dogsrus]

It's amazing the interest the signing of a big man generates. This thread has been going for just 2 1/2 hours and has 56 replies and almost 700 views. Unbelieveable!

Here is an article from ChicagoHoops.com, usually the first site in the Illinois region to pick up on Bradley and other college commitments--
Head Coach Jim Les And The Bradley Braves Land 7-0 Juco Center David Collins From Missouri State-West Plains
http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/collinsbradley.html

If Chicgo Hoops is not stretching it too much in saying, "The 7-0 Collins is a long and highly active player on both ends of the basketball court. His length, athleticism and ability to run the floor make him an ideal fit for the Bradley system" then this signing is fantastic.

DB....perhaps we will be watching him together with a few other Brave fans at the San Padre Shootout then discussing a BU win over a couple cold ones and victory cigars at a local Texas golf course. :lol:

Don't forget the sailboat!


"A" sailboat or "the" sailboat.......IF you have one we may never leave :lol: .

Hoping to speak with KK soon to see the chances that BU is indeed looking at this tournament.

Dog and DB your two are talking about South Padre, is that dreaming or is BU expected to participate in the tourney? Htown is 8 hours approximently from South Padre perfect excuse to miss Tday and get some sun and BU basketball.


Rumors we are looking into it....will try to confirm.

[MDCowboy]

Dogs - I'm hearing Daytona is more likely than South Padre as the tourney, but I would love to see South Padre. That is a good tourney, a fun place to visit, and games are telecast on CSTV for those who won't make the trip.

[tornado]

Let's have ann unofficial pick-em...

name the day and the player of BU's next commit....anyone wanna guess?

I say Wade Knapp on April 11 (with the candlestick....ha,ha, just kidding)

[bugregshu]

Charlie Coley, April 15

[houstontxbrave]

Let's have ann unofficial pick-em...

name the day and the player of BU's next commit....anyone wanna guess?

I say Wade Knapp on April 11 (with the candlestick....ha,ha, just kidding)

I really though am curious who is not arriving or losing their scholly if we bring in another player.

[Fetz86]

i think the concensus is that deaaron might not make it academically.

[amckillip]

Coley, 4/16

[Braves4Life]

Let's have ann unofficial pick-em...

name the day and the player of BU's next commit....anyone wanna guess?

I say Wade Knapp on April 11 (with the candlestick....ha,ha, just kidding)


Every once in awhile I get kind of a sixth sense...........

I said before that once BU started landing big-time players that we'd then land an absolute STUD!

I believe that stud is Coley. He commits to Les during his visit 4/15; we find out about it early Sunday evening (4/15) on BradleyFans.com from Da Coach or Tornado (before the PJS reports it) :D :wink:

[bugregshu]

4/16 is a monday... also, congrats on the 100th post!

[Braves4Life]

4/16 is a monday... also, congrats on the 100th post!

My bad :oops:

Post corrected :lol:

[Beninator]

Matt Roth on 4/12

then....... Charley Coley 4/15

Just trying to be different. :)

[tornado]

Actually, beninator, I like different

[plymkr]

Why do so many people believe Coley is going to come here? Is there something that I am missing or just blind faith. (NTTAWWT!) There seems to be alot of larger schools after the guy, and from reading the Charlotte board, they believe he is going there.

Anyway, I am just curious as to why all of the confidence that he will be in Red & White.

[shaunguth]

Why do so many people believe Coley is going to come here? Is there something that I am missing or just blind faith. (NTTAWWT!) There seems to be alot of larger schools after the guy, and from reading the Charlotte board, they believe he is going there.

Anyway, I am just curious as to why all of the confidence that he will be in Red & White.
Actually, Coley pushed his Charlotte visit back from this weekend to the weekend AFTER his scheduled visit to the hilltop. A couple of reasons could be this being a holiday weekend and/or the fact that one team he's interested in recently announced four of their juniors won't be back for their senior season. I'd be surprised as well and it'll prove the recruiting prowess of JL and staff if they DO land this guy!

[BU1999]

I'm going to guess 4/11 Iman Shumpert
If I am allowed a 2nd guess, I say 4/12 Nick Freundt

[Beninator]

Why do so many people believe Coley is going to come here? Is there something that I am missing or just blind faith. (NTTAWWT!) There seems to be alot of larger schools after the guy, and from reading the Charlotte board, they believe he is going there.

Anyway, I am just curious as to why all of the confidence that he will be in Red & White.

Actually I am just trying to be optimistic that's all.... We have
a good thing going here and am hoping for the best!

[lake Camelot]

I'm going to guess 4/11 Iman Shumpert
If I am allowed a 2nd guess, I say 4/12 Nick Freundt

Speaking of trying to be optimistic. This would be the ultimate in optimistic. :D

[Big Mike]

Since NF & IS are both Jrs........and MR is a Jr.....for that reason can only verbal.........right? :-o :?

I think we would be looking for a player for next season with a signing! :wink:

[tornado]

If anyone finds out what David Collins will be doing this summer, please post,
as I would love to watch him play if he is down at the RiverPlex, or elsewhere.

[Big Mike]

Does anyone else think having DC here for his visit the same weekend will help land CC? :-o I think it will help....the only thing is can the staff really offer a ride to CC now or will they have to wait for something to transpire? :? Either way...the more I think about it the better I feel about DC coming to the Hilltop! :D

[Average Joe]

I am not sure I really want to see Coley here,
he doesn't really seem to have any sense of where he wants to play.
Just holding out for the highest bidder.
Come on Charlie, you make the call, show some guts.

[shaunguth]

Something tells me he'll be in the SEC next year.

[Big Mike]

Remember........J Fears didn't pick out the Braves 1st....but changed his mind after iowa state fired the coach that recruited him....from what I can gather....I think JF will be a fan favorite and be hard to keep out of the starting line-up! 8) Let CC come here and visit...meet the team and realize how good the Braves can be next season and see what this staff and University can do for his future....I think it will be hard to turn down! :wink:

[bu fan 9]

I hope your right Big Mike I would love to land this kid.

[Big Mike]

I've never seen him play.....but if the staff wants him this bad....he must be really good! :idea: :wink:

[bu fan 9]

The staff has told me that he is really good and that we would love to see him play on the Hilltop.

[BradleyBrave]

Something tells me he'll be in the SEC next year.

For who? It's us and Charlotte that's left on his visit list. I guess he could wait and see who bails at Arkansas. However, I will be suprised if he ends up at BU. Pleasantly suprised.

[shaunguth]

Something tells me he'll be in the SEC next year.

For who? It's us and Charlotte that's left on his visit list. I guess he could wait and see who bails at Arkansas. However, I will be suprised if he ends up at BU. Pleasantly suprised.
I'm not exactly sure what their available scholarships look like, but why not Florida or Kentucky?

[BradleyBrave]

Something tells me he'll be in the SEC next year.

For who? It's us and Charlotte that's left on his visit list. I guess he could wait and see who bails at Arkansas. However, I will be suprised if he ends up at BU. Pleasantly suprised.
I'm not exactly sure what their available scholarships look like, but why not Florida or Kentucky?

I'm not sure they were looking at him, but yeah, they definitely have openings. IMO if he was that caliber of player though, I don't think he would be looking at us.

[dogsrus]

Paper said Collins to make his first official visit to the hill this weekend.

Has he been here unofficially before or was his committ site unseen?

[tornado]

He should be easy to spot if someone sees him on campus

[Da Coach]

Paper said Collins to make his first official visit to the hill this weekend.

Has he been here unofficially before or was his committ site unseen?

Where have you been? You don't read the posts here often enough! :lol:

David Collins was on campus a year ago for an unofficial visit.

Here is the original post from April, 2006, reporting his visit--
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=20333#20333

And more stuff about him from a previous thread--
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4194

[dogsrus]

Paper said Collins to make his first official visit to the hill this weekend.

Has he been here unofficially before or was his committ site unseen?

Where have you been? You don't read the posts here often enough! :lol:

David Collins was on campus a year ago for an unofficial visit.

Here is the original post from April, 2006, reporting his visit--
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=20333#20333

And more stuff about him from a previous thread--
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4194


SOME of us work for a living :lol: :wink: Thanks for the update though.

[tornado]

In this particular case, Collins was on the BradleyFans radar a year before anyone else even knew of him, but dogs....
I do admire that there are hard working individuals who do work for a living, and some day I might just join the ranks and be one myself.

PS-- I think we can now officially tab this thread as the all time record setting thread on Bradleyfans.
In just under one week, this thread has 126 responses and well over 6000 views.

I just checked a "couple" of other local fan message boards, and couldn't find anything even close....not even 1/4 of the activity!

[MacabreMob]

Paper said Collins to make his first official visit to the hill this weekend.

Has he been here unofficially before or was his committ site unseen?

Where have you been? You don't read the posts here often enough! :lol:

David Collins was on campus a year ago for an unofficial visit.

Here is the original post from April, 2006, reporting his visit--
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=20333#20333

And more stuff about him from a previous thread--
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4194


SOME of us work for a living :lol: :wink: Thanks for the update though.

DRU
There - Total posts: 8539 [5.52 posts per day]

Here - Total posts: 801 [0.98 posts per day]

DRU complaining of being uninformed and overworked? = Just hanging out at the wrong joint wasting his time.

:lol:

[tornado]

Since post counts are easily reviewd if you click on an individual poster's profile link, I can affirm that dogs is definitely changing his ways.

For example, it took the first 23 months that BradleyFans existed for dogs to post his first 400 posts, then his next 400 came in just the short 3.5 month interval since last Christmas.

So his daily posting average was
-- 0.5 per day over the first 400 then 4.0 per day over the past 400. Clearly you can see he is beginning to spend his time MUCH more wisely.


In contrast, his posting on the other board averages 5.52 posts per day over the past 4+ years, but he is down to less than 4 posts per day over the recent weeks.


So he's coming around! :wink: :wink:

[Murph]

Since post counts are easily reviewd if you click on an individual poster's profile link, I can affirm that dogs is definitely changing his ways.

For example, it took the first 23 months that BradleyFans existed for dogs to post his first 400 posts, then his next 400 came in just the short 3.5 month interval since last Christmas.

So his daily posting average was
-- 0.5 per day over the first 400 then 4.0 per day over the past 400. Clearly you can see he is beginning to spend his time MUCH more wisely.


In contrast, his posting on the other board averages 5.52 posts per day over the past 4+ years, but he is down to less than 4 posts per day over the recent weeks.


So he's coming around! :wink: :wink:


He must be tiring of the ISU moderator over there. But really, if a BU fan wants to know whats going on with the team, coaches and especially recruiting this is the place to be.

Did they ever enable their personal messages?....lol

What are they scared of...????

[shaunguth]

Something tells me he'll be in the SEC next year.

For who? It's us and Charlotte that's left on his visit list. I guess he could wait and see who bails at Arkansas. However, I will be suprised if he ends up at BU. Pleasantly suprised.
I'm not exactly sure what their available scholarships look like, but why not Florida or Kentucky?

I'm not sure they were looking at him, but yeah, they definitely have openings. IMO if he was that caliber of player though, I don't think he would be looking at us.
I hope you're right! The recent number of openings at Florida and the coaching change at Kentucky could be changing the thought process though. I do think it will add a little more pressure if he's here at the same time as DC, although I still haven't seen any solid news on where the new scholarship is coming from.

[Beninator]

Since post counts are easily reviewd if you click on an individual poster's profile link, I can affirm that dogs is definitely changing his ways.

For example, it took the first 23 months that BradleyFans existed for dogs to post his first 400 posts, then his next 400 came in just the short 3.5 month interval since last Christmas.

So his daily posting average was
-- 0.5 per day over the first 400 then 4.0 per day over the past 400. Clearly you can see he is beginning to spend his time MUCH more wisely.


In contrast, his posting on the other board averages 5.52 posts per day over the past 4+ years, but he is down to less than 4 posts per day over the recent weeks.


So he's coming around! :wink: :wink:


He must be tiring of the ISU moderator over there. But really, if a BU fan wants to know whats going on with the team, coaches and especially recruiting this is the place to be.

Did they ever enable their personal messages?....lol

What are they scared of...????
I agree... I am new to message boards, but this board is much more interesting and informative... Especially for BU fans. :)

[bu fan 9]

If he wants to come to BU we will find a spot for him trust me.

[Da Coach]

I think you are referring to the other thread about a freshman 7 foot kid who is leaving Iowa, right?

Josh Crawford--
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7144

[tornado]

I agree... I am new to message boards, but this board is much more interesting and informative... Especially for BU fans. :)

Thanks Beninator...this site stands alone as dedicated to serving Bradley basketball fans with the best place to find info and the skinny on players and recruits.

[Murph]

[quote=Beninator]
Thanks Beninator...this site stands alone as dedicated to serving Bradley basketball fans with the best place to find info and the skinny on players and recruits.

And no ISU fan moderators here to control anti Bradley content.

[DU1995]

Bradley had another kid named Collins in 1998, Michael Collins.
Anyone know if there's any relation?

[BradleyBrave]

Bradley had another kid named Collins in 1998, Michael Collins.
Anyone know if there's any relation?

If you've ever seen Michael Collins, I'm guessing no. Mike Collins was a real nice kid and a real smart kid, but probably was in over his head here at BU basketball-wise.

[Da Coach]

I am certain David Collins (from Toronto, Canada) is not related to Michael Collins (from Wheaton, IL).

Michael Collins played 2 seasons (96-97 and 97-98 ) at Bradley under Jim Molinari, then transferred to Wheaton College where he finished his college career. Wheaton, a Div III school, was 20-7 in 1998-99 and 19-6 in 1999-2000 with Collins.

[Big Mike]

I think we can tell by the # of views to this thread that BU basketball is back to an all time high and hopefully this will translate into major ticket sales next season! 8)

[dogsrus]

I think we can tell by the # of views to this thread that BU basketball is back to an all time high and hopefully this will translate into major ticket sales next season! 8)

I hope so Mike.....no more UNI Tuesday nite debacles. I look for a boost in student sales also.

Good non-con also with Iowa State, Michigan State and VCU. The non-con is where we can really boost overall attendance as the regular season usually sells itself.

[matt714gd]

That's great we have Collins, but I have to say I am worried about the inside play more than outside. We have the majority of our outside shooters back (excluding Tauai and Franklin). If Crouch and Ruffin have another great 3pt year, AND we get a VERY solid player in the middle, we may be everything we could hope for.....BUT the question is...are the BIGs as solid as we think they truly are or are we simply having higher expectations than we should...?

[Da Coach]

I hope so Mike.....no more UNI Tuesday nite debacles. I look for a boost in student sales also.

It's a matter of opinion, but I just can't quite agree with terming the home crowd against UNI a "debacle". Let's save those terms for the schools that really deserve them.

def: debacle- a complete collapse or failure.

Now maybe the BU team losing to UNI that Tuesday night, Feb. 20, at home 79-70 is a debacle in some people's mind. But UNI may have played their best game of the year that night and shot 63% overall on the road, and 80% from 3-point range for the game. Most teams are going to win with that kind of great shooting.

But I wouldn't call the crowd a debacle. The attendance was 9,049. Maybe slightly disappointing for a fan base like Bradley's, but there are almost 300 Division 1 teams who would die for a crowd like that for a midweek cold winter night. I think terms like debacle should be reserved for some of our conference members that have pitiful crowds of 3-5,000 and student crowds in the dozens when they have student populations of more than 20,000.

http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19332&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=802140
http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19332&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=802120

[Big Mike]

I really think that any BIG that comes to BU and does what the staff says will have a HUGE UPSIDE! This staff has a way of taking player's to the top of their game.....very few have left here not better than players than when they arrived! DC looks like he has the ability to get up and down the court and after looking over his photo thread........a 7 fooer who can jump too :-o ....well that is something you cannot teach so he looks taylor-made for the Braves O' and practicing every day against 6'10 AT will only improve both players skill level! The sky is the limit for these young men in my book! :mrgreen:

[dogsrus]

I hope so Mike.....no more UNI Tuesday nite debacles. I look for a boost in student sales also.

It's a matter of opinion, but I just can't quite agree with terming the home crowd against UNI a "debacle". Let's save those terms for the schools that really deserve them.

def: debacle- a complete collapse or failure.

Now maybe the BU team losing to UNI that Tuesday night, Feb. 20, at home 79-70 is a debacle in some people's mind. But UNI may have played their best game of the year that night and shot 63% overall on the road, and 80% from 3-point range for the game. Most teams are going to win with that kind of great shooting.

But I wouldn't call the crowd a debacle. The attendance was 9,049. Maybe slightly disappointing for a fan base like Bradley's, but there are almost 300 Division 1 teams who would die for a crowd like that for a midweek cold winter night. I think terms like debacle should be reserved for some of our conference members that have pitiful crowds of 3-5,000 and student crowds in the dozens when they have student populations of more than 20,000.

http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19332&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=802140
http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19332&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=802120

I don't "worry" about others attendance DC...just ours and it was a debacle for what I expect for BU. And if there was 9k at THAT game we had 19k at the DePaul game. :lol:

7500 max.....

I agree BU should be proud of their most loyal fans but THAT nite still irks me. I'm one that thinks crowds can influence play and THIS might be a stretch but that was one game that could have put us into the NCAA's.

We, as fans, blew it. I understand that there were some HS games and that hurt us but I still expected more.

JMHO...

[BradleyBrave]

I hope so Mike.....no more UNI Tuesday nite debacles. I look for a boost in student sales also.

It's a matter of opinion, but I just can't quite agree with terming the home crowd against UNI a "debacle". Let's save those terms for the schools that really deserve them.

def: debacle- a complete collapse or failure.

Now maybe the BU team losing to UNI that Tuesday night, Feb. 20, at home 79-70 is a debacle in some people's mind. But UNI may have played their best game of the year that night and shot 63% overall on the road, and 80% from 3-point range for the game. Most teams are going to win with that kind of great shooting.

But I wouldn't call the crowd a debacle. The attendance was 9,049. Maybe slightly disappointing for a fan base like Bradley's, but there are almost 300 Division 1 teams who would die for a crowd like that for a midweek cold winter night. I think terms like debacle should be reserved for some of our conference members that have pitiful crowds of 3-5,000 and student crowds in the dozens when they have student populations of more than 20,000.

http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19332&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=802140
http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19332&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=802120

I think what made the crowd abnormally small that fateful night v. UNI was the number of local HS games going on. There were big AA games and A regional games going on locally. If you do the math with the number of high schools in action that night, and the number of people attending those games, it's amazing that BU had as many as they did. Poor scheduling is probably more to blame than anything. Had that game been on a Wednesday rather than a Tuesday, I think you would have seen close to 10K welcoming home the Braves after their big win at VCU.

[bravesonly]

all i want from DC is rebounds, a few game changing blocks, and some highlight real dunks off oops from DR, anything else we get from him is a plus in my book....what is everyone else looking for out of this guy?

[shaunguth]

all i want from DC is rebounds, a few game changing blocks, and some highlight real dunks off oops from DR, anything else we get from him is a plus in my book....what is everyone else looking for out of this guy?
I have to agree....rebounds...rebounds...rebounds. Every single rebound is a possible 4-6 point swing.

[Rusty 54]

I hope so Mike.....no more UNI Tuesday nite debacles. I look for a boost in student sales also.

It's a matter of opinion, but I just can't quite agree with terming the home crowd against UNI a "debacle". Let's save those terms for the schools that really deserve them.

def: debacle- a complete collapse or failure.

Now maybe the BU team losing to UNI that Tuesday night, Feb. 20, at home 79-70 is a debacle in some people's mind. But UNI may have played their best game of the year that night and shot 63% overall on the road, and 80% from 3-point range for the game. Most teams are going to win with that kind of great shooting.

But I wouldn't call the crowd a debacle. The attendance was 9,049. Maybe slightly disappointing for a fan base like Bradley's, but there are almost 300 Division 1 teams who would die for a crowd like that for a midweek cold winter night. I think terms like debacle should be reserved for some of our conference members that have pitiful crowds of 3-5,000 and student crowds in the dozens when they have student populations of more than 20,000.

http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19332&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=802140
http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19332&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=802120

I think what made the crowd abnormally small that fateful night v. UNI was the number of local HS games going on. There were big AA games and A regional games going on locally. If you do the math with the number of high schools in action that night, and the number of people attending those games, it's amazing that BU had as many as they did. Poor scheduling is probably more to blame than anything. Had that game been on a Wednesday rather than a Tuesday, I think you would have seen close to 10K welcoming home the Braves after their big win at VCU.

Another factor for bad tuesday attendance is that night is when frats and sororities meet. If i didn't believe that the crowd could influence games then i would not care NEARLY as much about basketball and the braves as i do. But what is the added value of a some fans who don't care as much and sit on their hands in the back?

[matt714gd]

Rebounds can sometimes be overrated. However, we NEED more rebounding this year. Last year was TERRIBLE.

[bugregshu]

Rebounds can sometimes be overrated. However, we NEED more rebounding this year. Last year was TERRIBLE.

A rebound is the same concept as a steal. The other team gives the ball up. And offensive rebounds allow for a fresh possession. I don't think rebounds are overrated. Especially on a team like ours.

[Big Mike]

I would like to think the rebound situation is getting handled.....so look for that problem to go away next season! :wink:

[houstontxbrave]

Rebounds can sometimes be overrated. However, we NEED more rebounding this year. Last year was TERRIBLE.

Basketball boils down to two things possessions and points. If you get more rebounds that gives you more possessions and the other team less, hence less opportunities to score more points and you more opportunities to score more points.

Rebounds can never be overrated.

[tornado]

I would like to think the rebound situation is getting handled.....:wink:

Two factors put BU in the situation they found themseleves in this season...with rebounding difficulties....

One was the departure of POB when BU had not anticipated it in time to recruit a replacement center.

Second was Zach's senior year difficulties staying out of foul trouble. Although the rips on MVC officiating this past season were way less than prior years, it was still the same as ever in the respect that any contact in the paint by a defender guarding the man with the ball was always whistled a foul.
This is not the way the Big Ten or almost any other league patrols the paint, only the Valley. I've said it for years, and it's why really GOOD big men never choose the Valley to play and are only RARELY ever successful in the Valley.
I know we didn't hear too much complaining because the fouls were certainly less than last season and before when we used to see 60 total fouls per game routinely, but the situation was still quite unfortunate for Zach. He simply never was able to adjust to the ticky-tack calls everyone in the Valley gets in the lane.

[shaunguth]

Rebounds can sometimes be overrated. However, we NEED more rebounding this year. Last year was TERRIBLE.

Basketball boils down to two things possessions and points. If you get more rebounds that gives you more possessions and the other team less, hence less opportunities to score more points and you more opportunities to score more points.

Rebounds can never be overrated.
Exactly.....every rebound is a possible 4-6 point swing. Just two rebounds could possibly be a double-digit swing in points! If anything, rebounds are under-rated.

[georgethedog]

Rebounds can sometimes be overrated. However, we NEED more rebounding this year. Last year was TERRIBLE.

Basketball boils down to two things possessions and points. If you get more rebounds that gives you more possessions and the other team less, hence less opportunities to score more points and you more opportunities to score more points.

Rebounds can never be overrated.

On the flip side of that, turnovers have a similar effect. Last year's team averaged 17-18 per game (just guessing) and this year's team around 12-13 (if I remember right). So, we rebounded less, but at the same time we had more possessions that did not end in a turnover. That was a product of our 3-4 guard offense with better ballhandlers. I am not advocating a 4 guard offense, but there are always two sides and always trade-offs. If we get more rebounding next year because we play more BIG players, I would bet our turnovers will be up thus partially offsetting the advantage of getting more rebounds. It would be nice if we could rebound and not turn it over!!!!!! :)

[oilerpimp]

Two factors put BU in the situation they found themseleves in this season...with rebounding difficulties....


Also a third and more important reason: Three point shooting team = LONG CAROMS.

[houstontxbrave]

Rebounds can sometimes be overrated. However, we NEED more rebounding this year. Last year was TERRIBLE.

Basketball boils down to two things possessions and points. If you get more rebounds that gives you more possessions and the other team less, hence less opportunities to score more points and you more opportunities to score more points.

Rebounds can never be overrated.

On the flip side of that, turnovers have a similar effect. Last year's team averaged 17-18 per game (just guessing) and this year's team around 12-13 (if I remember right). So, we rebounded less, but at the same time we had more possessions that did not end in a turnover. That was a product of our 3-4 guard offense with better ballhandlers. I am not advocating a 4 guard offense, but there are always two sides and always trade-offs. If we get more rebounding next year because we play more BIG players, I would bet our turnovers will be up thus partially offsetting the advantage of getting more rebounds. It would be nice if we could rebound and not turn it over!!!!!! :)

This season we were out rebounded 1285 to 1047 that is a difference of 6.8 boards per game.

We turned the ball over 399 times versus 553, that is a positive difference of 4.4 per game.

The rebounding difference was extremely substancial in several games:

TT -8 L
@UNI -16 L
H MSU -25 L
@WSU -16 L
@CU -15 L
@MSU -17 L
H CU -10 L
H UNI -10 L
SIU -8 MVC tourney L
Miss St -19 L

Extremely common theme, we were pounded on the boards in these games and lost all the above games.

Our guards will continue to handle the basketball and more then likely minimize tournovers, and I do agree that turnovers can change or effect a game tremendously. But, a tournover at mid court, I believe is not as detromental as giving up 2-3 offensive rebounds in one possession.

Ill take an extra 1 to 3 tournovers per game if we can bring the rebounding totals much closer to equal.

[georgethedog]

Rebounds can sometimes be overrated. However, we NEED more rebounding this year. Last year was TERRIBLE.

Basketball boils down to two things possessions and points. If you get more rebounds that gives you more possessions and the other team less, hence less opportunities to score more points and you more opportunities to score more points.

Rebounds can never be overrated.

On the flip side of that, turnovers have a similar effect. Last year's team averaged 17-18 per game (just guessing) and this year's team around 12-13 (if I remember right). So, we rebounded less, but at the same time we had more possessions that did not end in a turnover. That was a product of our 3-4 guard offense with better ballhandlers. I am not advocating a 4 guard offense, but there are always two sides and always trade-offs. If we get more rebounding next year because we play more BIG players, I would bet our turnovers will be up thus partially offsetting the advantage of getting more rebounds. It would be nice if we could rebound and not turn it over!!!!!! :)

This season we were out rebounded 1285 to 1047 that is a difference of 6.8 boards per game.

We turned the ball over 399 times versus 553, that is a positive difference of 4.4 per game.

The rebounding difference was extremely substancial in several games:

TT -8 L
@UNI -16 L
H MSU -25 L
@WSU -16 L
@CU -15 L
@MSU -17 L
H CU -10 L
H UNI -10 L
SIU -8 MVC tourney L
Miss St -19 L

Extremely common theme, we were pounded on the boards in these games and lost all the above games.

Our guards will continue to handle the basketball and more then likely minimize tournovers, and I do agree that turnovers can change or effect a game tremendously. But, a tournover at mid court, I believe is not as detromental as giving up 2-3 offensive rebounds in one possession.

Ill take an extra 1 to 3 tournovers per game if we can bring the rebounding totals much closer to equal.

If we shoot and miss and don't get the rebound or we turn it over, these are the same effect. The other team now can try to make a basket.

If they shoot and get an offensive rebound or we get the rebound and turn it back to them, these are the same effect. The other team now can try to make a basket. The only difference is that an offensive rebound may put the other team in a better position to score a basket because it could be a put back close to the basket. However, not all offensive rebounds are close enough for an easy put back and many turnovers lead to just as easy of a basket on a break away.

Let's just say they are both important! I think interior defense is also just as important. If the other team can't score, we win! :)

[amckillip]

I agree with George here, people look too much at a stat than what a stat means. Missing a shot has the same outcome as a turnover but people don't treat it the same.

I think this years team which looks to have GREAT guards will keep turnovers down. I also agree with whoever brought up the point of big men with good hands, I hope DC has good hands, because as much as I love MS, he does not, he mishandles balls often. Either way I expect the rebound margin to improve(a result of better interior defense in a lot of ways).

[houstontxbrave]

I agree with George here, people look too much at a stat than what a stat means. Missing a shot has the same outcome as a turnover but people don't treat it the same.

I think this years team which looks to have GREAT guards will keep turnovers down. I also agree with whoever brought up the point of big men with good hands, I hope DC has good hands, because as much as I love MS, he does not, he mishandles balls often. Either way I expect the rebound margin to improve(a result of better interior defense in a lot of ways).

I definitly do not disagree that turnovers are vital and equally as important as rebounding. What started all of this was the statement that rebounds were overrated. My point was in basketball, to me, the game boils down to who has more possessions and scores more points. The more points is extremely obvious, but the number of possessions is vital to scoring more.

Digging a bit into BU this past season, our biggest glaring weakness was rebounding and we were out rebounded by nearly 7 rebounds per game and in several games we were out rebounded by double digits.

A rebound a turnover a missed free throw are all things that can change a game from a win to a lose or vice versa. In '06-'07 we saw that poor rebounding directly lead in several games to us losing the game. Maybe not the only reason but a very strong possibility.

[georgethedog]

[quote=amckillip] In '06-'07 we saw that poor rebounding directly lead in several games to us losing the game. Maybe not the only reason but a very strong possibility.

Final point, and in the Sweet 16 year there were many games that we lost that could be directly traced to turnovers. Both years we had a similar record. One year our losses were caused a lot by turnovers, and the other year by lack of rebounding. Pick your poison! Maybe next year we will have fewer turnovers (great experienced guards) and more rebounds with a bigger team. Top 25 here we come! :)

[matt714gd]

Top 25...man that would be great!!!....I hope you are right

[Big Mike]

Heres hoping CC likes hanging out with DC and ends up commiting to the Braves! :-o :wink:

[Da Coach]

Might as well keep this topic going. We aren't far away from 10,000 views!

David Collins is also visiting Peoria today. He shouldn't be hard to spot. If anyone sees him or Coley, let us know.

[mexicobufan]

I would love to hear about any sightings today!!!!!

[Big Mike]

If DC is half as good as this thread is long.......his BU career could be awesome! 8)

[amckillip]

If DC is half as good as this thread is long.......his BU career could be assume! 8)

I hope his career is really ASSUME!! :wink:

Jokin' Big Mike

[IheartBU]

If DC is half as good as this thread is long.......his BU career could be assume! 8)

I hope his career is really ASSUME!! :wink:

Jokin' Big Mike

Darn Bradley students and their darn grammar and spelling rules ...

[Big Mike]

OK.......you got me.......I was doing my Bad News Bears impersonation? :oops: :oops:

[patrick_o'brian]

CAN WE PLEASE CLOSE THIS TOPIC? IT IS CLUTTERING UP THE BOARD.

[tornado]

OK-
but not 'til after we declare this the grandaddy of all posts in all of Central Illinois...
more pages, more posts & responses, and more views than any in all of history, hands down!

[Big Mike]

pob..........are you going isu on us? :? This time of year is recruiting and signing time.....what else should we be talking about? :roll:

[tornado]

........are you going isu on us? :roll:

Mike-- you are all too cruel....usually this time of the year the only posts on the ISU board are the ones (like Michael Sams in spring of 2004, Lorenzo Gordon in 2005 and Mark Kruse & Khalif Ford in 2006) talking about who's getting kicked off the team

http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=820
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2821

Who's it gonna be this year?

[Big Mike]

I still wonder if anyone will leave or not(isu)? :?

[tornado]

You gotta read this, Mike...
you get the impression Osiris is gone??

http://www.redbirdfan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6922&sid=a829c044b3c0a3f37fd6e4c19b07a4c9

[Big Mike]

Hey........the way things are going in the coaching ranks for college ball........we as Bradley fans need to count our blessings! :idea: All we have to do is replace an asst coach....a lot easier than going through the process of hiring a new head coach....getting more new assts and trying to keep your players on board( way to much unknown for fans and players)....let alone trying to recruit new players to an unproven team under a new staff! :-o :wink:

[tornado]

Let's just hope the NCAA doesn't start digging for more stuff around any of the Valley schools.

[patrick_o'brian]

pob..........are you going isu on us? :? This time of year is recruiting and signing time.....what else should we be talking about? :roll:no it's just that the talk of dave collins ended about 3 pages ago on this thread

[tornado]

OK--
here's some David Collins related stuff......

A mention that cites that David Collins is the 3rd 7-footer to play for Jim Les.
http://ciproud.com/content/fulltext/?cid=1928

And the PJ Star coverage of his signing for those who missed it
http://www.pjstar.com/stories/041207/BRA_BCTL84AL.071.php

[Big Mike]

I have heard that DC looked really good in the scrimmage with the BU players! 8) Everyone seems really pumped about what DC can bring to this team next season! Sounds like he can really get up and down the floor!:D