Bradley recruit- Marvell Waithe [Archive]

Da Coach

03-29-2006, 01:01 PM

Additional info and links about Marvell Waithe

http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9343656

Here are some premium articles--
http://bwi.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=528588

http://bwi.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=511766

http://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=515580

In the top articles posted 3/28 he says- "I've recently gotten offers from Georgia, Bradley, Richmond and Cincinnati," he added. "Some of those schools will receive official visits, as well."

In the earlier articles he had said he had a top three of Tulsa, Iowa and Nevada, but that he wants to go to a program that he can play and have an immediate impact.

His body and his game are compared to Tayshaun Prince- skinny, but very athletic and a "scoring machine". He averaged over 30 points per game and 11 rebounds.

BradleyBrave

03-29-2006, 01:39 PM

This would be a tremendous get. Get Jerome, James, and Jason on the phone ASAP!

Fastbreak

03-29-2006, 01:45 PM

BU just got done winning a couple big games up there, only a few miles from Canada, wonder if Marvell was there in Auburn HIlls?

Da Coach

03-29-2006, 02:29 PM

One of the Rivals articles did say he was in Auburn Hills at the invite of Iowa, to watch the Hawkeyes. Maybe he also saw Bradley?

BradleyBrave

03-29-2006, 02:33 PM

One of the Rivals articles did say he was in Auburn Hills at the invite of Iowa, to watch the Hawkeyes. Maybe he also saw Bradley?

If that was the case, we certainly should have moved above them on the list. We were the darlings of the Auburn Hills games!

Big Mike

03-29-2006, 05:42 PM

Just a question.......were the Braves on this kid before the Sweet 16 run..........or is he one of the kids who contacted JL? He sounds like the real deal and would be a match-up problem for many teams! :-o 8)

Grassman

03-29-2006, 07:08 PM

Wow, this is the top prospect in Canada and is eligible for this coming fall!! Hope he wants to come th BU!

Nice to see BU listed right at the front of the list of schools pursuing him:

"Bradley, Cincinnati, Georgia, Iowa, ....Michigan State"

Wonder if the Molinari/BU - Canada pipeline is still intact?
Maybe Jim Les took Jason Faulknor on the recruiting trip with him!

Bradley is listed first because, the schools are listed in alphabetical order.

thefish7

03-29-2006, 08:12 PM

Oh man. I just can't wait for that signing period... we could be just on the cusp of becoming a perennial powerhouse.

braves12

03-29-2006, 08:47 PM

I am as excited as everyone else about recruiting after the run BU made, the publicity that not only BU got but also the Valley, and Les's salesmanship. My concern is that there are fewer quality players left for the spring signing period compared to the fall signing period. Also, there will be many schools after the quality recruits. If BU can land some quality recruits this spring, it will say that Les and the program are moving rapidly in the right direction. I think next falls recruiting period will be even more crucial for the long term success of the program. A good season next year with another trip to the Dance, and I will be giddy!!!!!!!!

Da Coach

04-08-2006, 06:40 PM

The Canadian kid that Jim Les is recruiting is currently playing in the Nike Hoops Summit in Memphis. It is on TV right now, FSN-Midwest, Insight cable channel 57.

The game pits high school players from the US with International Under-19 players. Waithe is playing guard at 6'8" for the International team. He is in the dark uniform wearing a white tee shirt under his jersey. He looks awfully good!

http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2837

Biff

04-08-2006, 06:44 PM

I watched some of the game. Waithe is currently on the bench. The US team is a lot better, quicker, and deeper than the World team and is dominating the game. But there is some pretty good talent on the World team.

Da Coach

04-08-2006, 07:00 PM

Waithe didn't play as much as most of the others on his team. He may have been a late addition to the World team, as he is not listed on several websites that show the roster.

http://www.usabasketball.com/men/2006/06_mhs_world-team.html

http://www.insidehoops.com/hoop-summit.shtml

There were many great players on the US team--
http://www.usabasketball.com/men/2006/06_mhs_roster.html

But the one US player that looked like he didn't belong was Jon Scheyer. He had a horrible game. He looked much slower than everyone else, was shooting airballs, making turnovers, and unable to defend. He does not appear to be in the same class as the other US players. I wonder if he might redshirt next year at Duke?

Fetz86

04-08-2006, 07:15 PM

He will get minutes next year at Duke, he just had an off-game, he looked fine at the McD AA game. I dont think there is any chance of him redshirting next year.

flipper

04-08-2006, 08:45 PM

:arrow:

But the one US player that looked like he didn't belong was Jon Scheyer. He had a horrible game. He looked much slower than everyone else, was shooting airballs, making turnovers, and unable to defend. He does not appear to be in the same class as the other US players. I wonder if he might redshirt next year at Duke?

that is really funny. obviously you have not seen scheyer play very much. when i read the post above i couldn't help laughing out loud and couldn't stop for a long time. :lol: hope your not scouting or recruiting for bu :lol:

bradley fan

04-08-2006, 09:07 PM

You obviously didn't watch him play. I watched the game. Scheyer was easily the worst player on the floor. Things don't get any easier in the ACC. He is skinny and seemed intimidated by playing against kids as big or bigger than him.

People have compared Scheyer to JJ Redick, but Redick dominated in these postseason all star games when he came out of HS. Scheyer hasn't looked very good. He did not have a great game at the McD's AA game, either. Even the Duke fans on their BB's are wondering if he is a bit overrated.

Da Coach

04-08-2006, 10:01 PM

I'm not the only one who thinks there is a possibility that Jon Scheyer might be overrated by some. And I have seen him play quite a bit, and have been impressed with his skills.
Rivals lists Jon Scheyer quite far down their list at #70 in the class of 2006. Well below any of the other players on the USA team at the Hoops Summit, or on the McDonalds AA team.
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?SID=910&Year=2006&ra_key=811

Here is an article that suggests that there were a number of better and higher rated players who were not invited to play for the US team including a couple local stars from Memphis, while Scheyer was included.
See the section labeled "Happy just to be here" about halfway down the article-
http://www.jacksonsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060408/SPORTS/604080314/1006
Note the mention of Marvell Waithe at the end of that article.

And since this thread is about Marvell Waithe, here is another article about him-
http://torontosun.com/Sports/Basketball/2006/04/08/1525690-sun.html

flipper

04-08-2006, 10:10 PM

let me put it another way, would you like to see scheyer come to bradley to play basketball?

Da Coach

04-08-2006, 10:17 PM

I think I made my opinions of him clear. Yes, he would be a star at Bradley and in the MVC.

Let me ask-- Do you think he is in the same class as Tywon Lawson, Gerald Henderson, Wayne Ellington, Paul Harris, or any of the other players on the USA team that played today, or at the McD's All American game?

Is it possible that he may not be good enough to play at the level of Duke and the ACC? I would not have believed so a few weeks ago, but after watching him in these last couple weeks of All Star games, I now have some doubts.

At one time Scheyer was a Top 10 national recruit. Now he is #70. Here is Rivals list of top shooting guards. JS is not even in the top 10 at his position (he is the #12 shooting guard in the class of 2006)-
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?SID=910&ra_key=1013

Big Mike

04-08-2006, 10:20 PM

Right now I'd rather have Waithe! Do the Braves really have a shot at him? Would they rather have Moses? I think up to this point that Moses has played against tougher players on a daily basis which may not mean anything down the road! :-o

Da Coach

04-08-2006, 10:31 PM

From what I saw of Waithe, he reminded me of Shaun Livingston (please don't tell me I am putting too much pressure on him, I am not saying he is as good as Shaun!).

But he is tall (and skinny) for a point guard (6'8") and handles the ball extremely well, and passes like Shaun. Even though he didn't play much, and he only had 2 days to practice with his team (he was the only Canadian on the team, so he had never met any of the other players before) he made some impressive moves and passes. Plus he is a great scorer, over 30 points a game in high school.

The earlier article said he plans to play in a number of these types of All Star games and did not plan to commit until late in the spring.

Big Mike

04-08-2006, 10:38 PM

Would you take him over Moses if you had the choice? Early on I like Moses............but I can be swayed! :oops:

Da Coach

04-08-2006, 10:45 PM

Good question. Moses has played against a lot tougher competetion and may be more ready for Div I. Waithe might have similar skills and maybe even higher upside, as Moses has never been a scorer like Waithe is. Both are from Canada, though Moses is originally from Sudan. Moses played guard when he was in high school in Canada, but has been a forward since coming to Chicago.

crpacey20

04-09-2006, 12:06 AM

Im going to take Coach K's opinion here, and say that Scheyer will do just fine at the next level....remember, this are all-americans, and someone has to worst, even if everyone plays great.....

..i would be ecstatic if someone called me the worst player on a team consisting of the top 12 players in the country.

and i would take scheyer over jeremy crouch tomorrow.

user1

04-09-2006, 08:07 AM

Yesterday on FoxSports Midwest the US vs. World Junior National teams played at the Nike Hoops Summit in Memphis.

Marvell Waithe was a late addition to the international team, and only played 8 minutes.
But he was clearly one of the most talented players they had, and would likely have played more had he been with them and been able to practice more with the team.

He only played 8 minutes, scored 5 points, and had 2 rebounds.

The international star who impressed the most was Senegal's Mouhamed Saer Sene. Not sure if he has college eligibility, but the 7-footer could probably jump to the NBA soon. (nbadraft.net has him listed on their 2007 mock draft at #19, but look for him to move up soon.) He had 15 pts, 9 blocks in 27 minutes. Wayne Ellington had 31, Kevin Dyrant 20 for the USA. John Scheyer clearly needs a couple years of college, as he was a full step slow compared to most of these guys.
He only played 12 minutes and had one pt.

The game was actually pretty close when both teams had their starters in.
After one (10 minute) quarter, the USA trailed 26-25.
The World Select team also won the 3rd quarter 25-22.
The 2nd and the 4th quarters were won convincingly by the USA, 33-18 and 29-22, as the only real difference was that the USA team was way deeper. Whenever the World starters sat down, the USA went on a run.

Here's more
http://www.usabasketball.com/men/2006/06_mhs_box.html
http://www.usabasketball.com/men/2006/06_mhs_game-story.html

Big Mike

04-09-2006, 08:10 AM

Maybe with a couple of down all-stars games from Waithe it could help the Braves to land him? :-o :D I do not think he needs any more press than he has received already! :wink:

PS...........the best selling point at Bradley.........Coach CB can get you to the NBA*......

* see Shawn Livingston! :mrgreen:

user1

04-09-2006, 11:39 AM

Greg Oden was conspicuously absent from the Nike Hoops Summitt, and apparently here is the reason.

Reebok got to him first.
Even though he is still in high school, Oden has apparently agreed to sign a huge contract from Reebok to be one of their spokespeople. Surely he will have his own Air-Oden line of shoes soon, but cannot be paid yet as he is still competing in some amateur and AAU stuff and is planning to go to Ohio State this fall to play college ball.
But that doesn't stop him from choosing to align himself with Reebok, as he has already done for a few months.
Reebok "would not allow him" to play in the Nike sponsored Hoops Summit!!
But he will be in the Roundball Classic today (sponsored by Reebok).

Da Coach

04-09-2006, 04:07 PM

The international star who impressed the most was Senegal's Mouhamed Saer Sene. Not sure if he has college eligibility, but the 7-footer could probably jump to the NBA soon.

Sene was a man among boys for the World team. He is just 18 years old and has an awesome body and athletic ability. He apparently has been contacted by some US college coaches, but has indicated that he is not interested in coming to the US to go to college. He believes he can spend another year playing junior club ball in Europe and the go into the NBA draft.
Look for him to be another high pick in the 2007 draft.

Big Mike

04-13-2006, 08:55 PM

Since Marvel is our next visit this week-end.......maybe we can get something from him......a signature! :wink:

Da Coach

04-13-2006, 10:02 PM

Since Marvel is our next visit this week-end.......maybe we can get something from him......a signature! :wink:

That would be Marvellous, baby. 8)

BradleyBrave

04-13-2006, 10:10 PM

Anyone know if Waithe has taken or cancelled any other visits?

Da Coach

04-13-2006, 10:21 PM

He is in the process of making his allowable 5 visits. Tulsa, Iowa, and Bradley are 3 of them.

Here is what he told a Rivals.com affiliate--
Marvell Waithe, a 6-foot-8 and 180-pound wing forward from Sir Wilfrid Lauier Collegiate in Toronto, Ontario, recently told InsideTulsaSports.com that he would take all five of his official visits and would sign late in the spring signing period. He stated that the University of Tulsa would receive one of those visits, but he would wait until after he competed in the 2006 Nike Hoop Summit game to begin those visits.

"I've been invited to play in the 2006 Nike Hoops Summit all-star game in Memphis on April 8," said Waithe. "I'm not going to take any of my official visits until after that game. I know I'm going to visit Tulsa and Iowa and three other schools."

Already holding several offers, Waithe has recently picked up four additional offers.

"I've recently gotten offers from Georgia, Bradley, Richmond and Cincinnati," he added. "Some of those schools will receive official visits, as well."

Waithe has been selected to play for the World Team in the April 8th Hoop Summit contest in Memphis. The game will be played at the FedEx Forum at 3:00 pm (CST). Waithe is familiar with some of the participants and looks forward to displaying his talents.

"I know on the U.S. team I'll be playing against Greg Oden, Kevin Durant and Paul Harris," explained Waithe. "I've played on the same team as Harris, but haven't played against or with any of the other players. On the international team, I think there are players from Australia, but am not sure which other countries are represented."

"I'll be going to Memphis on April 2nd to start practicing with my squad. After that, I'll be setting up my visits. I know I'll be busy, because I plan on taking all five official visits in less than a month. So, I'll be signing late."

Big Mike

04-14-2006, 05:09 PM

I agree DC........Marvel would be........ "worth the Waithe!" :-o :lol:

Da Coach

04-14-2006, 06:47 PM

I hearby declare a moratorium on Marvell Waithe puns.

dogsrus

04-14-2006, 07:33 PM

I hearby declare a moratorium on Marvell Waithe puns.

Just "waithe" a minute....do you have the authority to make such a declaration.

Big Mike

04-14-2006, 09:02 PM

:-o :lol: :lol: :lol:

Heemeskerk

04-21-2006, 08:55 AM

An article about Marvell Waithe in the Toronto Sun. According to the article Bradley (as well as Georgia) is out.

http://torontosun.com/Sports/Basketball/2006/04/21/1543758-sun.html

If true this is a dissappointment. We could use an impact player next year!

BradleyBrave

04-21-2006, 09:19 AM

Well, he sounds like quite the talent, but I don't know how much of an impact he would have next year. He is not very strong and will be a redshirt candidate no matter where he goes.

That being said, I am getting a little worried about getting some impact guys for next year. It's getting late in the game.

it's boogie time

04-21-2006, 09:30 AM

It's a little hard to figure out the timeline in this story since Waithe visited BU on Tuesday and had other places lined up after that.

Da Coach

04-21-2006, 09:44 AM

Thanks for the link Heemy.

It's my understanding that the last 2 places he visited were Georgia and Bradley. Interesting that the article says these are the 2 he has eliminated. He has made it clear in his recruiting that he wants to go somewhere where he can play and start immediately. I doubt that would be the case at Bradley and that may be why he has eliminated them. I hear he is not ready for Div I. It will be interesting to see where he ends up. It might be a rebuiilding, lower Div I program such as Canisius, which the article mentions.

Bravesguy

04-21-2006, 11:14 AM

If the only criteria is that the guy wants to be clearly able to play right away, then I see that as a very shallow
determining factor. If that's the only thing the guy wants, then he should try ICC or maybe Chicago State or Savannah State.

it's boogie time

04-21-2006, 11:47 AM

There's playing time to be had at BU at the 3 and 4 position if he's any good.

Georgia just signed a 6'8" Juco, so I can see why they cooled on him.

chitownBUB

05-05-2006, 11:47 AM

Here is some more update on Marvell Waithe

The Toronto Sun keeps a nearly day to day update on the kid as he is becoming a local hero.
http://torontosun.com/Sports/OtherSports/2006/05/05/1565677-sun.html

" WAITHE WATCHERS ALERT

Canada's hottest hoopster, Laurier's Marvell Waithe, has a new suitor in Duquesne University, the program that spawned Raptors guard Mike James among other NBAers.

At 6-foot-8, Waithe's game and potential is the envy of a lot of American programs. He has made official visits to Loyola University in Chicago and returned this week after spending two days with officials at the University of Cincinnati.

Waithe always has stated his intention to go to a program that will help develop his game. Perhaps no player has expanded his game in the past two years than Waithe, whose goal is to play pro basketball one day."

" PLAYING THE WAITHE GAME

Laurier basketball player Marvell Waithe was scheduled to return home last night after spending the past two days visiting the University of Cincinnati, a rebuilding program that plays in the elite Big East.

Waithe's first official visit was to Chicago's Loyola University. Wake Forest and Michigan also have shown interest in the 6-foot-8 wing player. "

scout still lists Bradley among his choices:
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&cfg=bb&c=2&yr=2006&cid=528196

egib52

05-06-2006, 12:14 PM

This guy is all over the place with his recruiting...he allegedly knocked Georgia and BU of his listed, and sounded like he was narrowing in on a big program like Cincinnati, and now he visits Duquesne and Loyola...two programs that play in weaker conferences than BU :?: It seems that is he is still looking that he didn't get good news from the Bearcats...maybe we still have a chance.

Da Coach

05-06-2006, 04:09 PM

Bradley is not in the running.

I suspect he is not as good as advertised, and that is the reason he is having a hard time finding a school.

tornado

05-07-2006, 07:03 AM

Comment on the Iowa premium board that Steve Alford took a trip up to Canada to recruit Marvell Waithe.
http://mb25.scout.com/fiowafansfrm3.showMessage?topicID=11853.topic

Da Coach

05-11-2006, 07:48 PM

Here is the latest on former Bradley recruit Marvell Waithe--

Scout.com has a new premium article today--
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=2&cid=530063&nid=2516783&fhn=1

Here is a summary of the article:
Marvell Waithe has narrowed his decision to four schools.
They are, in no particular order, Cincinnati, Duquesne, Loyola-Chicago, and Rutgers.
A press conference has been set for 1PM next Tuesday at his high school to announce his collegiate choice.

My guess -- Duquesne. They are a latecomer to the Marvell Waithe sweepstakes.
http://torontosun.com/Sports/OtherSports/2006/05/05/1565677-sun.html
There must be a reason that all the original schools that were interested in him are now out of consideration (Georgia, Bradley, Iowa, Tulsa, Wake Forest, Seton Hall ). And I just don't think he is Big East material.

Scout profile-
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2516783

Rivals profile-
http://www.chicagosports.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=45591

tornado

05-12-2006, 07:05 AM

Rivals also lists four final choices for Waithe, but differ slightly.
They say....Cincinnati, Duquesne, Rutgers, and Illinois-Chicago as Waithe's final four choices, from which he will choose within the next week.
Waithe has "set a press conference" for 3PM next Tuesday, at Toronto Sir Wilfrid Lauier Collegiate School to let us all know if he's going to play at Illinois-Chicago. Is this kid for real??
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=543189

chitownBUB

05-13-2006, 02:57 PM

Despite coachng changes and player defections, it seems Waithe may be going to choose Rutgers.

"The Toronto Sun reports in Saturday's edition that 6-foot-7, 190 pound forward Marvell Waithe from Sir Walter Laurier Collegiate School in Scarborough, Ontario, appears to be headed to Rutgers.
Waithe, whose final four schools are Cincinnati, Duquesne and Loyola (Chicago) and the Scarlet Knights, had visited the Dukes last week. Shortly thereafter, he headed to New Jersey.

Bradley, Georgia, Michigan State and Iowa have also checked out the only Canadian in the Nike Hoops Summit in Memphis, Tenn., last month. He also played in the all-Canadian all-star game.

Waithe, who averaged 35 points and 12 rebounds this past season, is expected to decide before Wednesday, May 17, 2006, the final day of the spring National Letter of Intent period. "

Da Coach

05-14-2006, 03:43 PM

The Marvell Waithe saga continues, but it is about to come to an end.
A Toronto Sun article today says he is headed to Rutgers--
http://torontosun.com/Sports/Basketball/2006/05/13/1578105-sun.html

This article says-"Rutgers has made Waithe a verbal offer as has Loyola of Chicago, a program that dearly covets Waithe and has already sent the Grade 12 Laurier student a letter of intent."
I thought he might have had several offers, but this suggests that his offers might be just Loyola and Rutgers.

tornado

05-17-2006, 09:41 AM

http://torontosun.com/Sports/Basketball/2006/05/17/1584213-sun.html

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&cfg=bb&c=2&yr=2007&cid=531702

Now he will have the chance to play against Horizon powerhouses such as Wright State, Youngstown State, UW-Green Bay, and UIC in a conference that seems to rarely ever place more than one team in the NCAA.

Toyota12

05-17-2006, 09:48 AM

Looks to me like he is going to Rutgers!!
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/NCAA/2006/05/13/1578221-sun.html article from May 13

tornado

05-17-2006, 09:54 AM

Nope, not going to Rutgers.
Reportedly he was leaning toward Rutgers, but had a last minute change of mind.
Read this post from yesterday and the rest of the thread tells all.
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=21223#21223

chitownBUB

05-17-2006, 11:17 AM

There is some talk over on the Rutgers board that Marvell Waithe is a good student and gets good grades, but that his curriculum is inadequate and his transcript would not fly in most of the major conferences, which is why he ended up at Loyola and not Cincy, Georgia, Rutgers, or the MVC.

Rumor is that within the next few days it will be announced that
Valparaiso will be leaving the Mid-Con and join the Horizon League.
This is going to get the Mid-Con crumbling. The Mid-Con already has several 300+ RPI schools and is looking to add three more such schools in South Dakota State, North Dakota State, and Indiana Purdue-Fort Wayne.
http://p214.ezboard.com/fbuhoopsfrm1.showMessage?topicID=9567.topic

http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=21209#21209

One other tidbit, one of the Valparaiso assistant coaches has quit to become an assistant at DePaul under Jerry Wainwright.
http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/sports/z1/05-17-06_z1_spor_05.html

Da Coach

05-17-2006, 12:02 PM

There is definitely something "funny" about this Marvell Waithe saga. Every major college that recruited him, and there were about a dozen mentioned over the past month, backed off.
The one he signs with is one of the couple that got interested just in the past few days.
Even his scheduled press conference Tuesday to announce for Rutgers was postponed and switched to Wednesday and his choice changed that quickly, too, to Loyola.

I wish the kid good luck. But his goal was to sign with a top major program where he could play and make an impact immediately. Loyola is not a top major, and we'll see next season how ready he is to play. If he's eligible.

I somehow get a feeling that we'll be just as glad his choice wasn't Bradley.

it's boogie time

05-17-2006, 12:42 PM

Do Canadians have 5 years of high school?

Loyola is no slouch of a school academically. I wonder how they would be able to accept somebody that many others would be afraid of.

chitownBUB

05-17-2006, 12:43 PM

Don't know what to make of those comments on the Rutgers board about transcript concerns, but this scenario suggests where there's smoke, there's fire, so I think his academics are an issue.
On the other hand, Loyola was rated pretty high in RPI early on last season, and ended with a non-conference RPI of 73, but they did bad in their conference. The Horizon League was only the 15th rated conference, and yet only two teams finished with a worse conference record than Loyola (Cleveland St., Youngstown St.)
My guess, if Waithe really meant what he said about trying to find a top program to play at is that he was left with only ONE option after the other programs all pulled out (and it appears that even Rutgers must have pulled out at the last minute and caused his late change), and that option was Loyola.
Hey, Rutgers really, really needs help as they just changed coaches and announced yesterday that three more players are leaving.
If this kid didn't have some severe issues, then I have to believe Rutgers would have killed to get him and he would NOT have fell to Loyola.
http://rutgers.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=544282

chitownBUB

05-18-2006, 09:24 AM

The Toronto Sun has a story about the kid's press conference
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1147902615043&call_pageid=969907729756&col=970081563083

A new article by Dave Telep, but you have to take the word of the kid's own AAU coach with a bit of skepticism,

"GC Ballers head coach Jeff Bishop stated that he thought Marvell Waithe reminds him of the NBA's Tayshaun Prince.
Waithe, who reportedly committed to Loyola of Chicago, is about 6-foot-7 and 190 pounds. "He has long arms and is lean," Bishop said. "He is also athletic and can block shots.
Waithe, from Sir Walter Laurier Collegiate School in Scarborough, Ontario, had also considered Rutgers, Bradley, Cincinnati, Georgia and Iowa."

ChiTown fan

08-07-2006, 07:30 PM

There must have been some truth to the opinions above. A report I have heard here in Chicago
is that Marvell Waithe still has not qualified to be eligible at Loyola.
My guess is that he will likely go the prep school route.

BUMike

08-07-2006, 10:10 PM

I also have heard from a friend that Waithe does not
have the academics to play at Loyola.
This guy's recruitment was a veritable circus with him
changing his mind publicly then going with Loyola
who hadn't even been in the mix.
I think he is a Ben Coupet.

bradley fan

10-21-2006, 08:18 PM

Marvel Waithe is not listed on the roster of Loyola University.

Does anyone know where he ended up?

http://loyolaramblers.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/loyc-m-baskbl-mtt.html

MickeyT

10-21-2006, 08:30 PM

He was never cleared to play by ther NCAA Clearinghouse

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/NCAA/2006/09/21/1872927-sun.html

Big Mike

10-21-2006, 08:37 PM

Boy.......it was a good thing that the Braves backed off MW and didn't have to go thru all that........the XC case was enough for me! :wink:

dogsrus

10-21-2006, 09:00 PM

Boy.......it was a good thing that the Braves backed off MW and didn't have to go thru all that........the XC case was enough for me! :wink:

Yeah be careful what you wish for.....

It DOES show another plus of JL and staff though...while XC will not be available this year at least they have helped send him somewhere where he can "fatten up"...increase his skill level and likley return to BU in a couple years.

IOW BU will get some return on their "investment".

Da Coach

10-21-2006, 10:45 PM

Somehow I suspect that if Waite had gone to DePaul or Illinois, he would have found a way to get cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse.

MacabreMob

10-21-2006, 10:55 PM

Somehow I suspect that if Waite had gone to DePaul or Illinois, he would have found a way to get cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse.

Shame on you DC.

:wink:

Da Coach

10-07-2008, 01:01 PM

tornado

12-05-2008, 08:52 AM

After more than 2 years absence, the name of former BU recruit Marvell Waite resurfaces. He never did enroll at Rutgers or Loyola, never passed the NCAA clearinghouse, and he returned to Canada. I do not know what he has been doing the last 2+ years, but now he has enrolled at Talahassee Community College, and will be a juco recruit in the class of 2010.
Here is a long thread we had about him more than 2 years ago.--
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=494

He is now listed as Marvel Waithe (now only 1 L in his first name)
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=88976&sport=2

Marvel Waithe is actually among the nation's leaders in junior college stats....!!
after 9 games, Marvel is averaging 23 ppg (11th in nation), 57.4% FG shooting, 49% 3-pt shooting pct., 11.4 rpg (15th nationally).

Ex-Simeon teammate of Derrick Rose, Tim Flowers is 13th in rebounds with 11.6 rpg., and ex-Marquette Eagle Trevor Mbakwe is 3rd at 14.1 rpg.
Darius Johnson-Odom is averaging 21 ppg/5.2 apg at Hutchinson CC.

One other interesting fact.........
the top two scorers in all of DII Junior college (NJCAA DII) are BOTH on the same team!
http://njcaa.org/sports.cfm?sid=5&divid=2&gender=m&slid=2&menu=3

Ricardo Laing is averaging 38.7 ppg, and Anthony Baglin 30.7 ppg. - both play at a branch of Baltimore County CC

lake Camelot

12-05-2008, 08:10 PM

Wow we could use a guy like this. I would love to get him!
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..Oh sorry, I was having a flashback.

tornado

05-18-2009, 01:16 PM

Marvell averaged 19 ppg, 9 rpg and is now heading into his sophomore
season at Tallahassee juco

Da Coach

09-30-2009, 06:14 AM

Former BU Canadian recruit Marvell Waithe is mentioned in this article. He will be a sophomore at Tallahassee Community College this season, and will visit Arkansas the weekend of October 9-11. He is described here as a 6'9" big man-
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/09/30/uconn-finally-brokering-calhoun-deal/

When Bradley was recruiting him he was listed as 6'7", 190 pounds.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&cfg=bb&yr=2007&nid=2516783

He does appear to have put some weight on-
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/72/729883.jpg

This premium article from The Arkansas Scout has more information. http://arkansas.scout.com/2/904134.html

Here are some short clips from the article-
Marvell Waithe (http://arkansas.scout.com/a.z?s=10&p=8&c=1&nid=2516783), a 6-9, 215-pound versatile combo forward from Tallahassee (Fla.) Community College who was Mr. Basketball in Canada back in 2006, will take an official visit to the University of Arkansas (http://arkansas.scout.com/) on Oct. 9-11.

It comes after a sterling high school career where he averaged 35 points per game, two years of playing at prep schools while working to get clearance from the NCAA Clearing House and eventually just taking the junior college route.

Waithe, who has drawn comparisons to NBA players Tayshaun Prince (http://arkansas.scout.com/a.z?s=10&p=8&c=1&nid=3490346) and Corey Brewer (http://arkansas.scout.com/a.z?s=10&p=8&c=1&nid=3294583), will visit Arkansas Oct. 9-11, has a visit scheduled to Rutgers (http://rutgers.scout.com/) for the following week and could possibly also visit Alabama (http://alabama.scout.com/).

Waithe, who averaged 18.9 points and 8.6 rebounds for TCC last season as a freshman, has developed a nice bond with Arkansas head coach John Pelphrey and assistant Tom Ostrom.

Tallahassee CC head coach Eddie Barnes is impressed with how his player has handle recruiting and how the Arkansas staff has pursued him.

“I think they are doing a great job recruiting Marvell and that is evident by how he is taking a visit there first and how he has got it down to just the three schools – Arkansas, Rutgers and Alabama – even though he has a lot of schools wanting him,” Barnes said.
Barnes believes Waithe, who shot 39 percent (45 of 115) from 3-point range, 53.4 percent overall from the field and 76.3 percent from the line while getting there 139 times, has the ability to be one of the best.

“In all honesty, when he first got here, Marvell had never met a shot he didn’t like,” Barnes said. “He thought his time to shoot was as soon as he turned. But that is what they needed and wanted him to do. Since he has gotten here, we have worked with really hard on his basketball IQ and he has really come around.

tornado

09-30-2009, 07:37 AM

Waithe also made 49% of his shots and 40% of his 3-pt attempts (48-121)
I think he's going to be a very good player...

thefish7

10-01-2009, 10:28 AM

We still in the picture at all? My guess is not really, but curious if anyone knows anything.

tornado

10-14-2009, 10:32 AM

seriously doubt it....he will go to a high-major--...but a little known fact...back when he was still a relatively unknown
Canadian just beginning the recruiting process, Bradley might have actually been in the lead, and Waithe
actually visited Bradley (4/19/06)...but shortly thereafter found he didn't have the courses and academics
and was likely headed to juco....so BU dropped off........
*** note, in 2005-06 the NCAA revised the academic requirements & Core curriculum for eligibility, and all American high
schools knew about it, but unfortunately the Canadian high schools for the most part never knew and Marvell's
academic counsellors up in Canada simply dropped the ball and were clueless about his needs...this ended up hurting
Marvell big time, as he really is a fine student...

Here is a quote from the Toronto Sun:
"Waithe thought he had the necessary core courses to play NCAA basketball.
Guidance counsellors assured him, authorities at Loyola gave their blessings and
Waithe himself figured every detail was finalized. He enrolled in summer school,
only to find out the NCAA's clearing house would not give its approval."

He and his counselors followed the NCAA rules, but not the current standards
which went into effect this past school year. The NCAA has told us that they
do notify American schools when significant changes occur. (but not Canadain schools)
Have to check on their outreach to international schools and/or educational organizations.

The most recent change affected the definition of acceptable computer science courses.
Only courses that require programming in connection with math or science criteria
are countable. This was first effective August 1, 2005.

The are two places on the NCAA's website where this change is explain. One document
that explains initial eligibility changes. And it's present in the 2006 by-laws: it's a footnote
on page 180, the chart at the end of the Initial Eligibility chapter.
With the NCAA's final answer (No), Loyola seems out of the picture for this season."

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/73/734864.jpg

Waithe has been taking visits to Big 12, Big East, & SEC schools...
He appears to have three favorites, Arkansas, Rutgers, Alabama...but the first story linked below says Alabama has been eliminated.
The second story from Oct. 13 says right now he appears to be leaning to Rutgers and will visit them again this weekend.
http://arkansas.scout.com/2/908299.html
http://rutgers.scout.com/2/908707.html

Here's a funny comment from Waithe after his visit to Arkansas...
"Arkansas, where he visited last weekend....was great. I loved it.
The atmosphere was great, the city not that good..."

uh oh....this means they must have allowed him to take off his blindfold when he was in Fayetteville, AR!! :lol::lol::lol::lol: