2007 Ex-Commitment- DeAaron Williams

[beamer1]

DeAaron Williams is possibly going to announce today that he's transferring to Bradley.

http://www.pjstar.com/stories/011706/SPO_B8NHM8HV.W02.shtml

[collegehoopjunkie]

DeArron Williams is possibly going to announce today that he's transferring to Bradley.

http://www.pjstar.com/stories/011706/SPO_B8NHM8HV.W02.shtml

This article this morning by Greg Stewart says
"could have him in a Bradley uniform next December after BU's 2006 fall semester"

but the previous PJ Star article on Jan 7 by Greg Stewart said
"Williams would not be eligible to play at a Division I school again until the start of the 2007-08 season"

Can someone explain the discrepancy?

[Fastbreak]

The article today says DeAaron was working out with ICC,
and it's been reported that Wisconsin is recruting Ping.
You think any words from DeAaron might have an influence on Ping and where he goes?
I can't help but think Ping would want to hear what DeAaron has to say about Bo.

[tornado]

DeAaron can be a fine player in the MVC. His athleticism can be a plus even tho his outside shooting is suspect.
Couisnard is a fine player at WSU but isn't a great outside shooter.
Tatum takes a ton of 3-pointers (23-92) and only makes a fourth of them, but he is their leading scorer.
Lawrence Wright is only 1-9 on 3-pointers, but has a 45% overall FG%.
And it might give BU that "difficult matchup" when DW can post up a guard but drive on a bigger player.
I am anxious to see him in a Braves uniform.

[chitownBUB]

I recall several posters saying that DeAaron would be better off at BU or a midmajor than at a Big Ten school.

[it's boogie time]

This article this morning by Greg Stewart says "could have him in a Bradley uniform next December after BU's 2006 fall semester"

but the previous PJ Star article on Jan 7 by Greg Stewart said
"Williams would not be eligible to play at a Division I school again until the start of the 2007-08 season"

Can someone explain the discrepancy?

It matters if he enrolls at BU or ICC. If at BU, he would sit two semester and play in December 2006 after finals. If he enrolled at ICC, he would be there three semesters and could transfer to any D1 school with 2 years remaining.

[collegehoopjunkie]

This article this morning by Greg Stewart says "could have him in a Bradley uniform next December after BU's 2006 fall semester"
but the previous PJ Star article on Jan 7 by Greg Stewart said
"Williams would not be eligible to play at a Division I school again until the start of the 2007-08 season"
Can someone explain the discrepancy?

It matters if he enrolls at BU or ICC. If at BU, he would sit two semester and play in December 2006 after finals. If he enrolled at ICC, he would be there three semesters and could transfer to any D1 school with 2 years remaining.

Not so according to the way Greg Stewart explained it in his Jan. 7 article.
Here is what he says:
'But a new rule, instituted in March 2004, specifically prohibits midseason transfers from gaining eligibility at the new four-year school at midseason. That means Williams would not be eligible to play at a Division I school again until the start of the 2007-08 season."
According to Greg Stewart, there isn't any possible way, given the rules, to be eligible at a 4-year school until fall of 2007.
Another poster discussed this topic back on 1/07, here is the link.
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1924
(scroll to the 19th post, most of the way down)
But in that post, WJ cites several other players who seemingly are eligible at midseason despite such a rule if it exists.
I am puzzled about such a rule if several players are transferring mid-season and apparently are eligible.

[BradleyBrave]

Well, that is false. Michael Thompson left Duke midseason and transferred to Northwestern. He was eligible December of 2004, which was long after this supposed rule went into effect. DW would be eligible next December.

[chitownBUB]

Here is the story in the Madison, WI press, and
there are a few facts that differ significantly from what was reported in the PJS.
http://www.madison.com/toolbox/index.php?action=printme2&ref=tct&storyURL=%2Ftct%2Fsports%2Fuw%2Fbasketball%2Fmen%2 Findex.php%3Fntid%3D69055

[Big Mike]

ThaNKS FOR THE ARTICLE BUB! :wink:

[Da Coach]

For what this is worth, Bill Hodge, a national recruiting expert, is reporting that DeAaron Williams has "signed" with Bradley.
I actually don't think the NLI is valid in this case.

http://interact.ocsn.com/recruiting/pros_card_frames.cfm?recruit_id=998&sport=basketball&dbyear=05

http://interact.cstv.com/recruiting/searchrecruit.cfm?sport=basketball&dbyear=05&school_name=brad

Scroll past football to basketball recruiting--
http://interact.ocsn.com/recruiting/

[it's boogie time]

The new rule was if he went the juco route, hence the reason he would have to wait 'til the 2007-08 season.

Collegehoopjunkie, You didn't paste the paragraph that was just above what you did paste. There have been no changes in guys tranferring at midseason from a D1 to a D1.

[BradleyBrave]

The new rule was if he went the juco route, hence the reason he would have to wait 'til the 2007-08 season.

Collegehoopjunkie, You didn't paste the paragraph that was just above what you did paste. There have been no changes in guys tranferring at midseason from a D1 to a D1.

Good catch boogie time. All the more reason it's better for DeAaron to come to BU now.

[collegehoopjunkie]

The new rule was if he went the juco route, hence the reason he would have to wait 'til the 2007-08 season.

Collegehoopjunkie, You didn't paste the paragraph that was just above what you did paste. There have been no changes in guys tranferring at midseason from a D1 to a D1.

I fully agree with you and several posters who don't think any such new rule exists to cover anything like what's described.

Here is the paragraph from Greg Stewart-

"According to an NCAA rule, Williams must attend ICC one academic year, graduate and have passed 24 hours of classes at the junior college in order to transfer back to a four-year school.

But a new rule, instituted in March 2004, specifically prohibits midseason transfers from gaining eligibility at the new four-year school at midseason. That means Williams would not be eligible to play at a Division I school again until the start of the 2007-08 season."

Maybe he meant this statement to refer to transfers from JuCos, but it doesn't apply to transfers from one DI to another. It appears Williams will be eligible in Dec. of 2006 not start of 2007-2008.

[flipper]

DeAaron can be a fine player in the MVC. His athleticism can be a plus even tho his outside shooting is suspect.
Couisnard is a fine player at WSU but isn't a great outside shooter.
Tatum takes a ton of 3-pointers (23-92) and only makes a fourth of them, but he is their leading scorer.
Lawrence Wright is only 1-9 on 3-pointers, but has a 45% overall FG%.
And it might give BU that "difficult matchup" when DW can post up a guard but drive on a bigger player.
I am anxious to see him in a Braves uniform.

t - what do those players listed above have to do with williams?

[flipper]

DeAaron can be a fine player in the MVC. His athleticism can be a plus even tho his outside shooting is suspect.
Couisnard is a fine player at WSU but isn't a great outside shooter.
Tatum takes a ton of 3-pointers (23-92) and only makes a fourth of them, but he is their leading scorer.
Lawrence Wright is only 1-9 on 3-pointers, but has a 45% overall FG%.
And it might give BU that "difficult matchup" when DW can post up a guard but drive on a bigger player.
I am anxious to see him in a Braves uniform.

t - what do those players listed above have to do with williams?

[BradleyBrave]

DeAaron can be a fine player in the MVC. His athleticism can be a plus even tho his outside shooting is suspect.
Couisnard is a fine player at WSU but isn't a great outside shooter.
Tatum takes a ton of 3-pointers (23-92) and only makes a fourth of them, but he is their leading scorer.
Lawrence Wright is only 1-9 on 3-pointers, but has a 45% overall FG%.
And it might give BU that "difficult matchup" when DW can post up a guard but drive on a bigger player.
I am anxious to see him in a Braves uniform.

t - what do those players listed above have to do with williams?

I think Tornado was comparing them to DW because they all have similar builds and similar skillsets. Hopefully DW will have as much of an impact as Cousinard and Tatum. I think the Cousinard comparison is a good one. I think Eric Roberson is a good comparison as well.

[tornado]

DeAaron can be a fine player in the MVC. His athleticism can be a plus even tho his outside shooting is suspect.
Couisnard is a fine player at WSU but isn't a great outside shooter.
Tatum takes a ton of 3-pointers (23-92) and only makes a fourth of them, but he is their leading scorer.
Lawrence Wright is only 1-9 on 3-pointers, but has a 45% overall FG%.
And it might give BU that "difficult matchup" when DW can post up a guard but drive on a bigger player.
I am anxious to see him in a Braves uniform.

t - what do those players listed above have to do with williams?


The comment had been made in several posts that Williams isn't
a good shooter and that BU has too many poor shooters and
doesn't need another.
I was just giving examples of how a player who might be a poor
shooter could still help if he is a team player who can contribute
in other ways, including scoring from within his range.

[beanocook]

DeAaron can be a fine player in the MVC. His athleticism can be a plus even tho his outside shooting is suspect.
Couisnard is a fine player at WSU but isn't a great outside shooter.
Tatum takes a ton of 3-pointers (23-92) and only makes a fourth of them, but he is their leading scorer.
Lawrence Wright is only 1-9 on 3-pointers, but has a 45% overall FG%.
And it might give BU that "difficult matchup" when DW can post up a guard but drive on a bigger player.
I am anxious to see him in a Braves uniform.

t - what do those players listed above have to do with williams?


The comment had been made in several posts that Williams isn't
a good shooter and that BU has too many poor shooters and
doesn't need another.
I was just giving examples of how a player who might be a poor
shooter could still help if he is a team player who can contribute
in other ways, including scoring from within his range.

Agreed Tornado. I think BU needs more shooters but they arent all going to be shooters. A guy like DeAaron can help a team win, thats for sure. I see a combo between Lawrence Wright and Eric Roberson.

I dont see DW being a superstar but a nice, double-digit scorer by the time he is done at the Hilltop. All while being a very good defender and good rebounder for a guard.

[BU fan]

I remember Curtis Stucky at Bradley. He was not a great shooter, but still has the highest career scoring average in Bradley history. Of course he benefitted from being Stan Albeck's primary scorer for 2 years.

[Big Mike]

Todays PJS aarticle says DW is not enrolled at BU according to the admissions office wed? So is he going to Bu or has he changed his mind again? :?

[user1]

Here's a laugh-

Wisconsin lost their first Big Ten Conference game last night, and the local headlines in Madison blame the loss on being
"SHORTHANDED".

"The team announced before the game that sophomore forward Greg Stiemsma and freshman forward Marcus Landry didn't make the trip to Columbus. The 6-foot-11 Stiemsma is taking a temporary leave of absence for medical reasons, while the 6-7 Landry was declared ineligible for the game.
A third Badger, redshirt freshman DeAaron Williams, left the team two weeks ago amidst academic problems and is apparently enrolling at Bradley."

http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/index.php?ntid=69350&ntpid=0


Then when they explain being short handed they note the three players who were missing were Landry, Stiemsma, and DeAaron Williams.
None of these guys have ever started, and I doubt if they were present, the outcome would have been different.

[northernboy]

8) DeAron's Father said he is enrolled at Bradley, So who do you believe.

[BradleyBrave]

8) DeAron's Father said he is enrolled at Bradley, So who do you believe.

I will believe it when I see him sitting on the Bradley bench.

[Big Mike]

I heard the same thing? Maybe their just waiting for the coach's to make the announcement? :?

[northernboy]

is there a deadline for enrollment?

[BU fan]

I think I have heard that it is possible to enroll up to 2 weeks after the start of classes, as long as the missed work can be made up. Has anyone else heard this?

[Big Mike]

Some say you can enroll late.....but what ='s late? :?

[BUBravesMan]

Here's a laugh-

Wisconsin lost their first Big Ten Conference game last night, and the local headlines in Madison blame the loss on being
"SHORTHANDED".

"The team announced before the game that sophomore forward Greg Stiemsma and freshman forward Marcus Landry didn't make the trip to Columbus. The 6-foot-11 Stiemsma is taking a temporary leave of absence for medical reasons, while the 6-7 Landry was declared ineligible for the game.
A third Badger, redshirt freshman DeAaron Williams, left the team two weeks ago amidst academic problems and is apparently enrolling at Bradley."

http://www.madison.com/tct/sports/index.php?ntid=69350&ntpid=0


Then when they explain being short handed they note the three players who were missing were Landry, Stiemsma, and DeAaron Williams.
None of these guys have ever started, and I doubt if they were present, the outcome would have been different.

Then when they explain being short handed they note the three players who were missing were Landry, Stiemsma, and DeAaron Williams.
None of these guys have ever started, and I doubt if they were present, the outcome would have been different.[/quote]

Although Steisma and Landry don't start, they certainly are important to Wisconsin's lineup.

Both players have played in all 16 of the Badgers' games:
Stiemsma 2.8 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 1.5 BlocksPG, in 11.7 MPG.
Landry 6.4 PPG, 3.1 RPG, 15.4 MPG.

In the OSU loss, they only played 3 reserves (one player for 1 minute), and that amounted to 5 total points--ALL from Joe Krabbenhoft.

[user1]

The PJS reports this year that as of Thursday afternoon, DeAaron was still not registered at BU and attempts to reach him by phone were unsuccessful.

[Fastbreak]

A premium article on Van Coleman's site says DeAaron is still looking for a school that will accept him.
The article seems to rule Bradley out in the long run.

[user1]

.... The 6-foot-11 Stiemsma is taking a temporary leave of absence for medical reasons.........

Now the report out of Madison is that Stiemsma is academically ineligible for the rest of the season.

[chitownBUB]

Some interesting articles coming out of the Madison, WI press.
Of course we have all heard that three different players from the Wisconsin basketball team have had academic issues of late.
DeAaron Williams left the team but was having problems with grades that would have made him ineligible, and also Marcus Landry and Greg Steimsma have been declared academically ineligible and are done for the rest of the year.

Wisconsin has not had any basketball player academically ineligible in 11 years, and now they have three in a 2 week span.

This has apparently led to a series of hearings with the athletic director (Barry Alvarez) meeting with the UW Athletic Board, and issuing several statements to counter the negative press that this has generated.

Apparently there were allegations that the Wisconsin basketball staff had NOT been monitoring the academic progress of its players very well and were caught off guard by the three players doing so poorly.

The highly publicized excuses (one student claimed a bout of depression and one claimed a learning disability) just don't wash, since both of these kids were very good students (academically) in high school.

Only now after this fiasco has Alvarez gotten going with a plan and ..."Alvarez mentioned learning specialists and daily supervision as part of that plan".

But in summary, the explanation given by the AD blames the kids:
"Somewhere along the line, the onus has to fall back on the kids," he said. "There's only so much everyone can do."

But David Harris, the UW associate athletic director for academic services says otherwise,
"I think the students have a responsibility, academic support has a responsibility and coaches have a responsibility. Let's find a way that communication in all those areas improves."

The Madison based "Wisconsin State Journal" however thinks it's pretty negligent on the part of UW academics people to blame the kids:
http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/column/index.php?ntid=70670&ntpid=3

[chitownBUB]

Bo starts the spin
http://www.gazetteextra.com/uwmb_ryan013106.asp

"no-we don't have any academic problems here..."

[Eddie]

Has there been any decision about DeAaron Williams? Here is a college basketball site that says Williams has committed to Bradley after he finishes at ICC

http://collegehoopsupdate.com/html/player_info.php?recordid=2717

[Big Mike]

The word I hear is that he has every intention of playing for the Braves after his stint @ ICC! 8)

[chitownBUB]

Has there been any decision about DeAaron Williams? Here is a college basketball site that says Williams has committed to Bradley after he finishes at ICC

http://collegehoopsupdate.com/html/player_info.php?recordid=2717

Eddie, when I click on that link, I can't find any reference to Bradley.
But they do list DeAaron as a Bradley Committment on this page:
http://collegehoopsupdate.com/html/commitment_search.php

[BU fan]

It's right there.
Bradley is listed right under his name.

[the daxified one]

what is the last word on his eligibility?

[BradleyBrave]

what is the last word on his eligibility?

He's got some work to do this summer in order to qualify academically for BU. It is doable, but it's going to take a lot of hard work on DW's part.

[the daxified one]

what is the last word on his eligibility?

He's got some work to do this summer in order to qualify academically for BU. It is doable, but it's going to take a lot of hard work on DW's part.

we had a guy declared ineligible by the NCAA which really put our team in a rut this past season. hope things work out well for you.