2009 BU commitment- Jordan Prosser

[scout4126]

http://midstatehoops.com/blog/?p=69

Speaking of Bradley, we believe that their long pursuit of Jordan Prosser is paying off. Bradley was Prosser’s first offer way back during his freshman year. Since then Prosser has gained around a dozen high major offers. However, because of Prosser’s decision to wait, many of those offers are no longer standing as they have been filled by other players and it appears that his short list is now limited. Bradley and Iowa appear to be the two schools that are in front for his services and we think in the end, he will be playing for Coach Les.

Just one site's opinion but they've proven in the past to be very trustworthy.

[Stryker]

That would be great. I would love to have Prosser on the team in the future. Hopefully being close to home won't be a detriment to his further recruitment. Most kids like to get away from home for college.

[Lakeview Brave]

This would be a tremendous coup for us. If we can start keeping the "next level" local talent at home, that would be great! Stay home Jordan!

[BradleyBrave]

Wow. Well, I said that there was no chance that Prosser ended up at BU, but that article makes me think that we might have a puncher's chance. We are still going head-to-head with a Big 10 team, and those usually don't go well for MVC teams. But, I don't think it's a stretch to say that our program is in MUCH better shape that Iowa's right now, and could offer more immediate opportunities for personal and team success. Hopefully Jordan looks at the success that 'Cellus, DA, JC, and Ruff have had, and follow in their footsteps.

[ER3]

This would be a super get for this program...It would give us some quality depth in the front court for the next five years, and allow the recruiting focus to turn back to the guard and wing positions...which should be easier spots to fill with quality players at this level...
I'd absolutely love to see a Prosser commit to BU followed closely by a Marshall Henderson commit...that would be sweet.

[real fan]

It would be great for Jordan and for all the Eureka fans that could come watch him play in Peoria like the Pekin fans were able to for JC; BU has always been a good place for local talent and us fans appreciate good players a lot more then most places.

[dogsrus]

This would be a super get for this program...It would give us some quality depth in the front court for the next five years, and allow the recruiting focus to turn back to the guard and wing positions...which should be easier spots to fill with quality players at this level...
I'd absolutely love to see a Prosser commit to BU followed closely by a Marshall Henderson commit...that would be sweet.

Yeah I agree....nab JP and get back to pg's and wings. Hard to imagine but thats what we will need even if it seems like thats all we have recrutied lately.

[Big Mike]

You have to like the HIGH INTEREST for Prosser under BU!:cool:
http://www.midstatehoops.com/players/profiles/2009/jordan_prosser.html

[BUBraves06]

This is good news, I too thought we didn't have a chance with him after the high-major offers started rolling in. It'd be nice to see him stay home in Central IL!

[mportsch]

Adding Prosser would be great! The frontcourt would look like this next season:

Anthony Thompson 6'10'' So.
Will Egolf 6'9'' Jr.
Jordan Prosser 6'8'' Fr.
Taylor Brown 6'7'' So.

With Sean Harris coming the next season as a sophomore, Bradley would be set in the frontcourt for the next couple years.

[Da Coach]

Don't forget Milos Knezevic. He'll be a freshman in 2009, also.

[Bradleyguy10]

also 6'8" Milos Knezevic

edit: sorry I've been beat to the punch

[squirrel]

One thing looking at that site, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi has been in on a number of these Illinois kids.

[VeveJones007]

One thing looking at that site, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi has been in on a number of these Illinois kids.

Intesting. Farm and urban kids thinking about spending their college years near a beach...:D

[houstontxbrave]

Corpus Christi's beach is not too appealing...
Lots of rocks, big rocks, little sand, and generally hard waves that often bring in petroleum debris and slime.

Ive been to Corpus many times and the only issue is the large amount of sea weed. The beaches near Port Aransas or near the Island are wonderful. The CC campus isnt great but it sits about two blocks from the Gulf and their new arena is pretty decent. The beaches in Corpus are a heck of a lot nicer then the ones in Galveston.

[Da Coach]

Most of Texas A&M CC's success in recruiting Illinois is because of Assistant Coach Billy Garrett's past familiarity with this area. He is an Illinois State grad (he played football, not basketball), and coached high school basketball at Providence St. Mel in the Chicago area before getting several college jobs, and eventually a job under Steve Alford at Iowa where he did a lot of recruiting in Illinois.
http://www.goislanders.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=59969&SPID=6580&DB_OEM_ID=14100&ATCLID=883170&Q_SEASON=2008

They already have several Chicago area kids on their roster--
http://www.goislanders.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=14100&KEY=&SPID=6580&SPSID=59971

[audacious_aficionado]

how does JPs game compare to MKs? its seems they are similar players except prosser is a little more aggressive. correct me if i'm wrong please.

[TheHeemyMonster]

If i'm not mistaken I believe Milos has more of the European slasher type of game then can play down on the block but also hit the outside humper including 3's. I haven't read to much about Proser but from what I can remember he is a monster down on the block and like to stay down there and doesn't shoot the 3's.

[Majik45]

To me it sounds like both are in the mold of Dane Watts or Matt Shaw, a little inside/outside type guys. We have not had a guy like this on our team the last couple of years, which we could have used. You could argue Sommerville was like this, although he was more of 3 than a post player. I say get them both even if they are similar as I think having guys some bigs that can step out and hit the 3 would be nice to have.

[BradleyBrave]

To me it sounds like both are in the mold of Dane Watts or Matt Shaw, a little inside/outside type guys. We have not had a guy like this on our team the last couple of years, which we could have used. You could argue Sommerville was like this, although he was more of 3 than a post player. I say get them both even if they are similar as I think having guys some bigs that can step out and hit the 3 would be nice to have.

I'm with Maj. Over the past couple of years, the biggest hole on this roster has been the lack of quality size and depth up front. While it might be a 'guards' game, BU has never lacked quality guards since Jim Les took over, and arguably even before he took over. The bigger we are, and the more quality big bodies we get, the better our chances for competing for league titles. And on a larger scale, the better our chances for competing with the traditionally bigger, stronger BCS teams in the postseason.

[audacious_aficionado]

i agree. i trust the coaching staff also, especially because it is clear they are thinking the same thing. i'm still waiting to hear about us going after good shooting guards. i'm not worried but i think that is where we need to focus next. we can't play three guys under six feet at the same time.

[squirrel]

I'm with Maj. Over the past couple of years, the biggest hole on this roster has been the lack of quality size and depth up front. While it might be a 'guards' game, BU has never lacked quality guards since Jim Les took over, and arguably even before he took over. The bigger we are, and the more quality big bodies we get, the better our chances for competing for league titles. And on a larger scale, the better our chances for competing with the traditionally bigger, stronger BCS teams in the postseason.

The only weakness I can ever recall was depth in Les' first year. And in no fault to Les or the players. Tucker could've relieved that immensely. 'Cello was playing on 65% knees at best, and I remember have numerous multiple-possession leads and Tauai was forced to play point for stretches and the opposition would have 6-8 point swings, changing the game. Lubbock was one of those games.

Tucker could've relieved Gilbert at the 2 and Gilly could've taken more extensive minutes at point.

[Out of Bounce]

I'm with Maj. Over the past couple of years, the biggest hole on this roster has been the lack of quality size and depth up front. While it might be a 'guards' game, BU has never lacked quality guards since Jim Les took over, and arguably even before he took over. The bigger we are, and the more quality big bodies we get, the better our chances for competing for league titles. And on a larger scale, the better our chances for competing with the traditionally bigger, stronger BCS teams in the postseason.

Well said BB!

[SFP]

Depth wins championships. When we lost to Louisville in '86 it was not because they had a better starting 5 it was because they had a much deeper bench and our guys just were worn out towards the end. I like the idea of 2-3 big guys around 6'8" that are athletic and can also hit the 3. This will give JL so many options. This will also give JP the chance to play theposition and develop the skills that he will play need in the pros.

[scout4126]

One thing looking at that site, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi has been in on a number of these Illinois kids.

Former ISU football star and University of Iowa assistant (under Alford) Billy Garrett is at TAMCC. He's very popular with the kids and has big time roots to the state. He's very close with Illinois Warriors, Chicago Express, MeanStreets, and Team Illinois as well.

Sorry didnt read the post about BG earlier...

[Scouter]

Dave Reynolds has an update from Jordan Prosser's father:

http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x2109422850/Ex-BU-player-to-have-working-German-honeymoon

When contacted Thursday, Prosser's father, Stan, said his son was very interested in Iowa and BU but has yet to compile a short list. Jordan Prosser is playing with the Indiana Elite AAU team this week in Las Vegas.
"Once he gets through with the Vegas tournament and has a chance to digest everything, maybe he'll be ready to make a list," Stan Prosser said. "I think he'll probably make a final decision sometime after school starts."


Also included in the story is more on Jeremy Crouch signing with Will Franklin's team in Europe.

[Beninator]

You could have found out about this two weeks ago by reading BradleyFans.
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=85633#post85633

Timing is everything to the folks at the PJS.;)

[bigdaddystuck]

Sounds like both guys could be the Chad Klein type of player. Step out and set the high screen and then get the kick for the outside shot. Could really open up the lane for drives or post ups!

[Braves4Life]

I don't know if Jordan Prosser has perfected the part of the game that Chad Kleine was so efficient at! ;)
Mrcoachdude, did you teach Jordan how to perform the Kleine-flop??


Sam Singh reminds me more of Kleine. Kleine was a BEAST!

[mrcoachdude]

I don't know if Jordan Prosser has perfected the part of the game that Chad Kleine was so efficient at! ;)
Mrcoachdude, did you teach Jordan how to perform the Kleine-flop??

There is no chance that Jordan has pefected the "flop". I doubt I taught him much ;) I just applauded many many times when he played for us.....probably the thing that sticks out the most was when my wife, daughter and I went out to dinner with JP after a tourney...he was a polite as a young man can be....if you want a young man that can play some hoops and be a player with character....Jordan fits that to a "T" :)

[mexicobufan]

I have always wanted him to be Brave so the fact he is a good kid is just a bonus. Come to Bradley and become the home town hero!!!!!

[Cavan Walsh]

Jordan Prosser committed today to become a Bradley Brave...Prosser was not available for comment at this time; he is spending time with his family on vacation...
Class of 2009 forward Jordan Prosser of Eureka verbally committed today to the Bradley Braves. This is a huge recruiting coup for Head Coach Jim Les and staff who were the very first program to offer Prosser a scholarship. At 6-8, Prosser is a versatile forward who can play with his back to the basket and face up, choose Bradley over a host of other programs that included Southern Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Xavier, Baylor, Providence, Illinois State, and heavy interest from several others. Stay tuned for a more in-depth story complete with quotes…

[MacabreMob]

Jordan Prosser committed today to become a Bradley Brave...Prosser was not available for comment at this time; he is spending time with his family on vacation...
Class of 2009 forward Jordan Prosser of Eureka verbally committed today to the Bradley Braves. This is a huge recruiting coup for Head Coach Jim Les and staff who were the very first program to offer Prosser a scholarship. At 6-8, Prosser is a versatile forward who can play with his back to the basket and face up, choose Bradley over a host of other programs that included Southern Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Xavier, Baylor, Providence, Illinois State, and heavy interest from several others. Stay tuned for a more in-depth story complete with quotes…

That is Ab-Fab!

[JasonAtBradley]

If this is actually true, that would be AWESOME! Getting a recruit who was once 4 stars is a major coup for Jim Les! :mrgreen:

[Stryker]

HOLY ****! This is fantastic if true. I can't wait to see this kid at BU!

[Cavan Walsh]

It is 100% true! I just can't get it up on illinoishsbasketball.com at the moment...

[MacabreMob]

Thanks CW for breakin the great news!

[CABUFan]

Fantastic! Our front line is shaping up to be very good the next few years.

[OrangeandBlack74]

This is great news!!! A 4 star recruit...and a local kid to boot! :)

Wooooohooooo!!!!

[BUBraves06]

Awesome news!

[thefish7]

I hope it is true! That's great news! I've been hoping Jordan would end up at BU!

[amckillip]

Why the questions mark and uncertainty about the commit?

[Braves4Life]

It is 100% true! I just can't get it up on illinoishsbasketball.com at the moment...

Cavan Walsh is THE Man!!!!! :) (........ and if you're wrong on this call you might not want to show your face again ;) :lol: )

[thefish7]

Why the questions mark and uncertainty about the commit?

For me-- Simple ignorance. I don't really know who Cavan Walsh is and have not been able to independently confirm this information.

[Cavan Walsh]

I can see the uncertainty but he sent me a text around 9:30ish pm saying he committed we exchanged probably 50 texts just talking about everything...Hopes David Brown or Dyricus Edwards follows him by committing very soon...Just trust me he committed he said the staff was a bit surprised but he is very happy with his decision and is excited about the new facilities…

[CABUFan]

Article from Illinois Prep Bullseye:

http://ilprepbullseye.com/page40.html

[Braves4Life]

Article from Illinois Prep Bullseye:

http://ilprepbullseye.com/page40.html


Thank you CABUFan :) Your confirmation just made my night... Now I can go to sleep happy!

This is, quite possibly, the highest profile recruit Bradley has ever landed :) :)

[dogsrus]

Hmmm...my company has extended me a very nice offer at a new position . The ONLY drawback is the travel as it is in....EUREKA. I have been looking for a sign......:) Get off work....hang out in Eureka for the evening and catch some Prosser HS games filing a full report for BUFans.com.....

Anyway....CONGATS coach Les. I don't put an enormous amouit of stock in the "star" system but people seem to LOVE numbers and I was wondering if anyone thinks this could help BU with OTHER recruits who see a 4 star committing to BU.

Welcome to BU JP.....you are a Brave Now. Once a Brave ALWAYS a Brave.

[mexicobufan]

Its not on PJ star yet and that concerns me? I would think a home town kid would tell the local paper. If true I could not be more excited. What a team we would have in a year or two!!!! Da Coach or T, I need your confirmation or PJ Star to put something up to believe this??? Nor questioning anyone here but it just seems to good to be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Da Coach]

For me-- Simple ignorance. I don't really know who Cavan Walsh is and have not been able to independently confirm this information.

This is what I get for going to bed early! I missed the excitement!

Cavan Walsh, for those who don't know his name, is the downstate recruiting expert for IllinoisHSbasketball.com. He works with Daniel Poneman, and I have to believe his reporting on this.
http://illinoishsbasketball.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=728&Itemid=1

Thanks, Cavan, for posting the news here!

Here is the only other site beside BradleyFans.com reporting this--
http://ilprepbullseye.com/page40.html

[mexicobufan]

If true, would this be the biggest get in Jims time at BU? Its amazing how we are going from a guard dominated lineup to a very strong and talented front court!!! For the posters on here that wanted more size you are getting it and its talented size!!

Be happy, be very happy!!!!!

[Dallas Brave]

this is great. congrats to the staff. are there any you-tube videos of JP playing ball?

[ser_solace]

Awesome. Very excited to have Jordan on the team!

[Da Coach]

this is great. congrats to the staff. are there any you-tube videos of JP playing ball?

Here are some older video from MidstateHoops.com. Jordan is #44--
This one is a year old--
http://www.midstatehoops.com/videos/prosser2.html

Here is one that's 2 years old. He has a white shirt on--
http://www.midstatehoops.com/videos/prosser.html

And here is one from the 2007 sectional game Eureka vs. Maroa-Forsyth
Jordan is #44--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfkPEuDFpa0

[mexicobufan]

Why nothing in the PJ Star, this would be big news??? Local news as well??? I am glad to hear its from a relaible source. I ask again, if true is this the biggest get for Jim?

[ser_solace]

Why nothing in the PJ Star, this would be big news??? Local news as well??? I am glad to hear its from a relaible source. I ask again, if true is this the biggest get for Jim?

My guess is that Cavan first broke the news to us on bradleyfans.com. He hadn't even uploaded it to his own website yet. I guess it was early in the morning or very late in the evening when Cavan first broke the story. PJ Star needs to get in touch with Jordan himself or Bradley to confirm. So, since it was late, they probably didn't get either.

The Bradley coaching staff may have learned it late yesterday evening too themselves. And they may not have wanted to announce this yet officially until they had a war meeting to discuss what's the recruiting strategy now. We have X number of offers remaining, do we adjust that or not? Have the priorities changed? etc.
I'm just guess though.

[Da Coach]

I think it might have come too late yesterday for the PJS to report it.

Here is an nice interview Jordan did with an Indiana fan site back in April, 2008.
In it, Jordan is referred to as a 4-star recruit, which means his rating (now 3-stars) must have just been changed in the past couple months. It also refers to Jordan having ben offered by Kelvin Sampson and Indiana.--
http://iuplanet.com/forum/indiana-basketball-recruiting/15850-class-2009-iu-offer-jordan-prosser-talks-about-college-basketball-future.html

[romar]

Does anyone else wonder if a recruit might know more about who else is being sought by a program. I think it's interesting that CW said that JP hopes David Brown & Dyricus Edwards would follow his lead soon.

[lefty]

Well I talked to a pretty reliable source that said JP was leaning toward BU but was going to wait until school year started before announcing. He was still thinking of making official visits.

[Murph]

This is great news, I'd still like to see it confirmed by the coaching staff.

[Gwright]

As much as the Local Media would love to get this out, (and trust me on this one, we do) there simply isn't enough solid proof yet. If anyone knows Prosser or family the fastest way to clear this up is to get him on the phone with the Star, or one of the local stations.

[Dallas Brave]

Thank goodness JL read the PJS article on too many JUCOs and starting recruiting 4 year guys ;)

[jasonpeoria911]

The delay on the media story is probably because he didn't commit until about 10pm last night as reports say and the media is likely waiting on a statement from Coach Les. Also it took the Peoria media about 9-10 hours to break the initial report on the DQ fire incident and Ruffins arrest. Both of those incidents occurred overnight on a Saturday. So more than likely something will appear in the news later this afternoon/evening.

Jason

[Beninator]

Cavan is the man. Congrats to JL and staff on a great get.

[Big Mike]

Wow.....this is BIG IMO.....I have wanted JP to come to BU from the start.....this is really exciting and should help land some more recruits! WELCOME to BU JP! :mrgreen:

[Heemeskerk]

I like the size listings on the scholarship grid. I don't post often but this makes me very excited about the future. The frontline is shaping up to be the best I can ever recall.... at least from a recruiting perspective. We'll see how these talented recruits deliver.

Welcome JP. You will be greatly appreciated by bradley fans and supported throughout your career like very few other places! You made a great choice.

[OrangeandBlack74]

The delay on the media story is probably because he didn't commit until about 10pm last night as reports say and the media is likely waiting on a statement from Coach Les. Also it took the Peoria media about 9-10 hours to break the initial report on the DQ fire incident and Ruffins arrest. Both of those incidents occurred overnight on a Saturday. So more than likely something will appear in the news later this afternoon/evening.

Jason

I don't believe the coaching staff can comment on JP's commitment at this time. I think there needs to be a signed letter of intent before Coach Les can make any public statement. That won't happen until the next signing period in November.

Any public comment will have to come from Jordan or someone in his camp.

[Beninator]

How about a Bradleyfans roadtrip to a Eureka game this coming year.8)

[amckillip]

How about a Bradleyfans roadtrip to a Eureka game this coming year.8)

I'm game!

[shaunguth]

How about a Bradleyfans roadtrip to a Eureka game this coming year.8)

Count me in!

[Big Mike]

ChicagoHoops list JP as their #9 prospect in the 2009 class!
http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/2009rankings.html

[real fan]

I said this before that Prosser will really be happy to play for BU as he will be another local talent that should have a good following and his family will be able to see him play most of his games; this is a good win for both Jordan and Bradley. His coach at Eureka is a great person and hopefully I will get to talk to him again at our home games.

[BuBraves55]

this one is big- brandyn heemskerk big!

[BUFAN]

Has anyone seen Prosser play? I see he was offered by major conference schools... Can he play "D" at that level?

[Scouter]

Great get for BU. Prosser is a really good player and I think is a great for in the MVC.

[brocks]

This squares with the timing he gave Rivals: "I kind of want to decide sometime in early August if I can." It's also been my experience that a thread like this wouldn't normally still be up if some of our more inside-the-circle-of-trust mods hadn't already heard something positive. Or am I just hoping too hard?

[Buesch N Chips]

If true, I'm happy for Jordan and Bradley. BU never backed down, even when the bigger schools came a-callin'. Good for JL and EB that their persistence paid off. Get the kid draining threes to add to his powerful inside game, and you've got a star here in Peoria.

[SFP]

We wanted big and that is what we are getting. No more small ball after this year! I hope JL knows how to rotate the big guys to keep them happy. There should be plenty of depth to have these guys bang on each other during practice. Welcome JP to the BU family! Imagine if JL picks up that pure shooter. We are pretty set everywhere else for the immediate future.

I'd say we will be looking for another pure center and a point guard for the following year.

JL you have out done yourself and great work and congratulation to you and your staff.

[mexicobufan]

I wonder if there has been anything on any of the other fan boards about this that had offered him a ride? Indiana????

[Out of Bounce]

We wanted big and that is what we are getting. No more small ball after this year! I hope JL knows how to rotate the big guys to keep them happy. There should be plenty of depth to have these guys bang on each other during practice. Welcome JP to the BU family! Imagine if JL picks up that pure shooter. We are pretty set everywhere else for the immediate future.

I'd say we will be looking for another pure center and a point guard for the following year.

JL you have out done yourself and great work and congratulation to you and your staff.

No more small ball after this year! Wrong! It starts this year!
7', 6'10, 2-6'9s, 6'7 and 2-6'5s These guys aren't going to sit, this is how we are going to win the MVC this year!

[Stryker]

I agree. Usually it takes a strong inside presence to win the MVC.

[SFP]

Out of Bounce I still say we will start small this year. Our starting line up will probably be:


SM
DD
AW
TW
??

DO we have more height sure, but it will take some time for most of them to really contribute. Our strength is still with the guards.

[MacabreMob]

I got a feeling scheduling is gonna continue to be a problem. ;)

[Da Coach]

I second that idea. Let's keep the discussion here about Jordan Prosser.

Because of the weekend, it is nearly impossible to connect with someone who can give us further information and confirmtion about this. But we are trying. Be patient.

By the way, the November NLI signing period is November 12, 20008 - November 19, 2008.
https://admin.xosn.com/pdf5/128764.pdf?&KEY=HZDHXXFMSKYIOPW.20080515194803&DB_ACCOUNT_TYPE=AGENT&TITAN_ACTIVE=YES&DB_MENU_ID=2768&DB_LANG=C&OLD_MODE=publishing&DB_OEM_ID=8400

[Da Coach]

How about a Bradleyfans roadtrip to a Eureka game this coming year.8)

This is a great idea. As soon as we know Eureka's basketball schedule, we'll post it here. Maybe we can have a Bradley section at all his games!

[brocks]

Checked some comments on Illini board and there's obviously some bad blood there. Can someone enlighten me about why Illinois-Champaign-Urbana fans are so bitter? Seriously . . . I have no idea what that's about.

[it's boogie time]

Great news to end the weekend with.

[Out of Bounce]

Out of Bounce I still say we will start small this year. Our starting line up will probably be:


SM
DD
AW
TW
??

DO we have more height sure, but it will take some time for most of them to really contribute. Our strength is still with the guards.

I respect your thought but as you know I disagree. The bigs will be ready from the start. Only Brown is new! We can't wait, we need to establish our style of play and the type of team we are going to be from day one. I have been saying for a long time, there is NO MV team that can match up to us on the inside! With the #'s/rotation of our bigs and if they put players on their butts and push them out of the paint,We win the MV!If we go small look for us to be 4-6 in the MV again. As much as Jimmy loves guards, I think he now knows that if we are going to be the force everyone wants, he has to have some horse's inside. I don't like guessing/picking the starting five but I will say this DD will win the MV #6 man award. Also I see us being a 9 to 10 deep team this year (5 true bigs and 5 guards).
As for JP what a great catch to go along with all the other bigs coming.

[SFP]

It's reported on ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?page=briefingroom&recruitId=45482:p

[BUBraves06]

It's reported on ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?page=briefingroom&recruitId=45482:p

Nice find SFP!

[brocks]

It's reported on ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?page=briefingroom&recruitId=45482:p

That's it . . . it's confirmed.

I don't want to make too much of this, but I'm not sure anybody can. I know he's been "downgraded" to a 3-star, but I've been predicting for a long time that JL would sooner or later get a 4-star recruit. This kid is widely regarded as a high-major prospect and was the kind of kid BU so often fished second with.

That trend finally has ended. JP was a top NATIONAL recruit, and Les got him. WOW!! Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall as Jim Les talks players out of accepting or even waiting for offers from schools like Indiana, Stanford, Wisconsin, Iowa, Iowa Sate, ND, etc etc etc?

This program is on a HUGE upswing.

GO BU! GO JL! Time to start hanging some banners.

[houstonbrave]

Van Coleman is now reporting the commitment on Hoopmasters. He indicates we beat out Indiana, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Northern Illinois, and Iowa in getting Jordan.

Welcome home Jordan-you made a great choice.

[BradleyBrave]

This is, quite possibly, the highest profile recruit Bradley has ever landed :) :)

Eh, not really. Mitchell Anderson was a top national recruit when he chose BU back in the early 80's. I believe Voise Winters was very highly regarded as well. While he didn't come to BU directly, Marcellus Sommerville was a 4-star recruit out of high school. But, to your point, this is certainly the highest-profile high school recruit in the Jim Les era, not only locally but also nationally.

I share everyone's enthusiasm in landing Jordan Prosser. This is a tremendous recruiting victory for BU for a number of reasons. First, it is the first time that we can truly claim victory over the Big 10 in a head-to-head recruiting battle, which is a very, very significant step. Second, it shows that getting in on kids early and staying persistent can yield rewards in the end. Lastly, it shows that highly regarded local kids are willing to stay home, and are worth recruiting.

I said from the beginning that BU didn't have much of a chance to land Prosser, even when it was down to just us and Iowa, simply because we really have never won a true head-to-head battle with the BCS. I am more than happy to be wrong on this one! I know some are waiting for an 'official' announcement from PJS, but so many sites are confirming this that I feel pretty confident that it is indeed true. Welcome to Bradley Jordan!

[mexicobufan]

Its funny now that he is headed to BU it seems none of the other schools really wanted him. They are glad they didn't get him and they are better off without him. He is now not a major recruit and was always a mid major kid.

Glad to have him at BU and he will have a great four years and everything is falling in place for another NCAA run!!! Welcome to BU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lefty]

Its funny now that he is headed to BU it seems none of the other schools really wanted him. They are glad they didn't get him and they are better off without him. He is now not a major recruit and was always a mid major kid.

Glad to have him at BU and he will have a great four years and everything is falling in place for another NCAA run!!! Welcome to BU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Many did back off because they had other kids commit. It doesn't make any difference really. JP ends up at BU and that's good for BU.

[mexicobufan]

Could not agree more, as I said he will have a great four years in a BU uniform. The front line of the future is looking pretty good!!!

[brocks]

Eh, not really. Mitchell Anderson was a top national recruit when he chose BU back in the early 80's. I believe Voise Winters was very highly regarded as well. While he didn't come to BU directly, Marcellus Sommerville was a 4-star recruit out of high school. But, to your point, this is certainly the highest-profile high school recruit in the Jim Les era, not only locally but also nationally.

I share everyone's enthusiasm in landing Jordan Prosser. This is a tremendous recruiting victory for BU for a number of reasons. First, it is the first time that we can truly claim victory over the Big 10 in a head-to-head recruiting battle, which is a very, very significant step. Second, it shows that getting in on kids early and staying persistent can yield rewards in the end. Lastly, it shows that highly regarded local kids are willing to stay home, and are worth recruiting.

I said from the beginning that BU didn't have much of a chance to land Prosser, even when it was down to just us and Iowa, simply because we really have never won a true head-to-head battle with the BCS. I am more than happy to be wrong on this one! I know some are waiting for an 'official' announcement from PJS, but so many sites are confirming this that I feel pretty confident that it is indeed true. Welcome to Bradley Jordan!

BB . . . I totally agree with (and respect) your knowledge of BU recruiting. This really is huge. How many times in the last 20 years has a kid like this told BU "almost"?

Anyway . . . that trend had to end if BU was gonna reach a new level. And it just ended! I doubt there's any way to over-state this. What a great day for JL!

[Beninator]

It's reported on ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?page=briefingroom&recruitId=45482:p

Van Coleman is now reporting the commitment on Hoopmasters. He indicates we beat out Indiana, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Northern Illinois, and Iowa in getting Jordan.

Welcome home Jordan-you made a great choice.

Nice find SFP and Houston. It is nice to see news of Prosser's commit from different sources. I am now more fired up about Prosser coming to Bu and I didnt think that was possible.:)

[mike radigan]

Its funny now that he is headed to BU it seems none of the other schools really wanted him. They are glad they didn't get him and they are better off without him. He is now not a major recruit and was always a mid major kid.

I was reading the Iowa message board and found the same thing. I find this disturbing. Big ups for BU fans. When we miss out on say a Matt Roth, we wish him nothing but the best.

[dogsrus]

Sure I'm biased but this is exactly what you hope for....a kid getting recruited "over" you (BU) but sees playing time over the prestige of going BCS.

Prosser has the chance to play 4 years and really develop as opposed to possibly sitting at a IU or Wisconsin for one or 2 years.

This is how we can beat some teams in the NCAA like we did against KU and Pitt. 4 year mature players against alot of those 1 or 2 and done type teams.

I was really worried about Iowa....NOT becuase they are better than BU but becuase they are struggling and he could have played right away AND had the BCS prestige thing.

[BradleyBrave]

I was reading the Iowa message board and found the same thing. I find this disturbing. Big ups for BU fans. When we miss out on say a Matt Roth, we wish him nothing but the best.

Agree 100% MR. I think the funniest thing I read was on one of the Illini forums that said Prosser picked BU because it was clearly the better program. Just think, this could have been Matt Roth last year. Oh well. His loss. He may be reconsidering things when Tom Crean recruits over him the next 3 years.

But I digress. This is a Jordan Prosser thread. This really, really gets our 2009 recruiting off to a great start. Often times, it just takes one domino to fall to get every other top target to fall into place. Let's hope JP was that domino.

[Big Mike]

I also look for the JP verbal to help land some other top player's to the Hilltop!:wink:

[Scouter]

I also look for the JP verbal to help land some other top player's to the Hilltop!:wink:

Prosser is a great get, but I think Simms-Edwards would be an even bigger coup. They'd make a great local tandem. I hope your line of thinking is right, Mike.

[bigdaddystuck]

Great job JL and staff. JP sounds like the type of kid who can step in and make an impact right away. IMO this is even bigger because he is a local recruit. Many college coaches catch h**l for not being able to recruit the local talent.

[Bradleyguy10]

Wow..I can't wait to see what he does his senior season to really make this look goooooooood. Make 'em all jealous.

[brocks]

Haven't seen this info yet and thought it worthy of its own thread.

Van Coleman is regarded as possibly the best recruiting analyst in the business.

He has Jordan Prosser WELL into his top 100 prospects for 2009 at #71, ahead of players headed to the likes of UCLA and Indiana. And miracle of miracles, that list was updated less than two months ago, and JP was STILL in the top 100 even though he was already clearly considering lowly BU.

Coleman also has Prosser listed at 6-9 and 225. Called this commitment "huge."

So when's the last time Bradley landed a Hoopmasters Top 100 recruit?

[Da Coach]

Here is the Hoopmasters.com site--
http://hoopmasters.com/

To see their rankings, in the right side blue column, set the search for 2009 HS and click Go right below the window. As Brocks pointed out, Jordan is ranked #71 nationally in the Hoopmasters Top 150. He is the only MVC recruit in the Top 150 for the class of 2009, so far.

[Beninator]

This is a great idea. As soon as we know Eureka's basketball schedule, we'll post it here. Maybe we can have a Bradley section at all his games!


Nice idea to post the Eureka schedule DC. I dont go to many HS games, but I will definately make the effort to go to Eureka to see Prosser.

[bradleybasketballfan]

Prosser seems like a good recruit for BU. I've never seen him play so I really don't know one way or the other. However, he does fit the profile of a guy that has been successful in the MVC and a guy BU has barely missed out on in the past (Koch, Grimm, Vershaw, Fay, etc.)

Obviously Coach Les' sticktoitiveness paid off here. He got to Prosser early and stayed on him. I have no idea if he is a better player than other MVC recruits but, again, he sounds good enough.

We probably really won't know until about 2-3 years how good the kid is. I just want to start finishing better than .500 in the league. Hopefully that starts this season and continues.

[Da Coach]

I see that another assistant and the sophomore coach at Eureka is Aaron Dohner, a 1996 grad of VIT high school.
Does anyone know how Aaron is related to former Bradley player Mark Dohner (1972-75), who was also from VIT high school?
http://www.district140.org/EHS/Webs/sports/newpageboysbasketball.htm

[Beninator]

I see that another assistant and the sophomore coach at Eureka is Aaron Dohner, a 1996 grad of VIT high school.
Does anyone know how Aaron is related to former Bradley player Mark Dohner (1972-75), who was also from VIT high school?
http://www.district140.org/EHS/Webs/sports/newpageboysbasketball.htm
Thanks DC.
I was wondering that when I checked out the Eureka site.

[Da Coach]

We probably really won't know until about 2-3 years how good the kid is. I just want to start finishing better than .500 in the league. Hopefully that starts this season and continues.

That actually started in the 2005-2006 season when Bradley was 11-7 in the league, followed by 10-8 in 2006-2007.
Bradley has been .500 or better now for 3 straight seasons.
Last year's 9-9 was an abberation due to injuries to key players.
If you were waiting for Bradley's upswing, you missed it.

[SFP]

Prosser seems like a good recruit for BU. I've never seen him play so I really don't know one way or the other. However, he does fit the profile of a guy that has been successful in the MVC and a guy BU has barely missed out on in the past (Koch, Grimm, Vershaw, Fay, etc.)

Obviously Coach Les' sticktoitiveness paid off here. He got to Prosser early and stayed on him. I have no idea if he is a better player than other MVC recruits but, again, he sounds good enough.

We probably really won't know until about 2-3 years how good the kid is. I just want to start finishing better than .500 in the league. Hopefully that starts this season and continues.

If the recruiting boards are correct JP is the type of player that should be able to contribute right away and contending for a stating spot when he gets to BU. This is not a recruit that needs a lot of time to work on his game, not a red-shirt candidate, not a project. He should be a 4 years contributer for us and we'll be able to see how good he is from the word go.:mrgreen:

[brocks]

Prosser seems like a good recruit for BU. I've never seen him play so I really don't know one way or the other. However, he does fit the profile of a guy that has been successful in the MVC and a guy BU has barely missed out on in the past (Koch, Grimm, Vershaw, Fay, etc.)

Obviously Coach Les' sticktoitiveness paid off here. He got to Prosser early and stayed on him. I have no idea if he is a better player than other MVC recruits but, again, he sounds good enough.

We probably really won't know until about 2-3 years how good the kid is. I just want to start finishing better than .500 in the league. Hopefully that starts this season and continues.

I nominate this post for understatement of the year. BU hauls in a national recruit with B10 offers and it "seems like a good recruit"?

[bradleybasketballfan]

That actually started in the 2005-2006 season when Bradley was 11-7 in the league, followed by 10-8 in 2006-2007.
Bradley has been .500 or better now for 3 straight seasons.
Last year's 9-9 was an abberation due to injuries to key players.
If you were waiting for Bradley's upswing, you missed it.

I'm not a math major but how is going from 11 wins, to 10 wins to 9 wins considered an "upswing"? If that's the best we expect/want from this program I'm glad I "missed" the so-called "upswing".

Am I a bad fan if I shoot for better than 10-8 or 9-9 in the league and 4th or 5th place finishes? I'm amazed some fans don't desire and push for some 13-5 and 14-4 type seasons. I don't expect them every year but 9-9 every year isn't really considered an "upswing". I have no problem with a "down year" every now and then being an 8-10 type year. I get it. But I guess having higher standards is bad.

[Beninator]

I nominate this post for understatement of the year. BU hauls in a national recruit with B10 offers and it "seems like a good recruit"?
I'll second that nomination.

Carpe diem Bradleybasketballfan...carpe diem:D

[bradleybasketballfan]

I nominate this post for understatement of the year. BU hauls in a national recruit with B10 offers and it "seems like a good recruit"?

It does seem like a good recruit. One doesn't know if the kid is good at the college level or not until he plays in, like, actual college games. I realize it's my nature but I tend to make observations based on performances, facts, and data--not on hype and opinions.

As I said--at this time it "seems" like a good recruit. If Prosser comes to Bradley and excels and leads BU to titles then my feelings will be valid. If he comes, stinks, and BU middles about then I guess I would be wrong. No one knows. The kid hasn't even played one game of his senior year in high school, much less a single college game.

It's certainly cool for some fans to get all excited and fired up about recruits. That's obvioulsy ones right. I'm just not that type of fan. I've been burned before by hype. I like to see results first. Nothing wrong with either way really.

[audacious_aficionado]

sounds like you need to stay away from the recruiting then bbfan. for fans recruiting is all hype and speculation. maybe you should wait until the season starts and "performance" is happening before you read or post on this board.

for me good "performance" in the recruiting scene is getting higher rated players. that's all we can hope to achieve in recruiting.... get the players we think may do better in the college game.

sit a few plays out on this thread if you know what i mean.

[Da Coach]

I'm not a math major but how is going from 11 wins, to 10 wins to 9 wins considered an "upswing"? If that's the best we expect/want from this program I'm glad I "missed" the so-called "upswing".

Am I a bad fan if I shoot for better than 10-8 or 9-9 in the league and 4th or 5th place finishes? I'm amazed some fans don't desire and push for some 13-5 and 14-4 type seasons. I don't expect them every year but 9-9 every year isn't really considered an "upswing". I have no problem with a "down year" every now and then being an 8-10 type year. I get it. But I guess having higher standards is bad.

What isn't going to be alowed is for the "Debbie Downers" to hijack any thread with positive Bradley news and try to turn it into a negative. Anyone who wants to be glum and unhappy about Bradley's current situation and their future is welcome to it. In fact, there are entire internet forums that seem dedicated to such negativism.

This thread is about a "major basketball recruiting coup" (those are Dave Reynolds' words, not mine), and we intend to keep it on topic. Thanks.

[brocks]

It does seem like a good recruit. One doesn't know if the kid is good at the college level or not until he plays in, like, actual college games. I realize it's my nature but I tend to make observations based on performances, facts, and data--not on hype and opinions.

As I said--at this time it "seems" like a good recruit. If Prosser comes to Bradley and excels and leads BU to titles then my feelings will be valid. If he comes, stinks, and BU middles about then I guess I would be wrong. No one knows. The kid hasn't even played one game of his senior year in high school, much less a single college game.

It's certainly cool for some fans to get all excited and fired up about recruits. That's obvioulsy ones right. I'm just not that type of fan. I've been burned before by hype. I like to see results first. Nothing wrong with either way really.

That's okay . . . if I were a passenger in an out-of-control airliner, I'd want a pilot with your approach . . .calm, deliberate. It takes all types.

[bradleybasketballfan]

sounds like you need to stay away from the recruiting then bbfan. for fans recruiting is all hype and speculation. maybe you should wait until the season starts and "performance" is happening before you read or post on this board.

for me good "performance" in the recruiting scene is getting higher rated players. that's all we can hope to achieve in recruiting.... get the players we think may do better in the college game.

sit a few plays out on this thread if you know what i mean.

Are you the coach demanding me to sit out? :) I never said one bad thing about Jordan Prosser. I said he seems like a good recruit. Is this considered a bad thing? Of course all teams get players they "think may do better in the college game". I don't know a coach out there who wants to get bad players.

I didn't realize fans all had to fit in the exact same mold or that some fans opinions matter more than others.

[Scouter]

What isn't going to be alowed is for the "Debbie Downers" to hijack any thread with positive Bradley news and try to turn it into a negative.

He didn't turn it into a negative. He turned it into the truth. But I agree, let's stay on topic. God knows I get into enough trouble for that...

[bradleybasketballfan]

That's okay . . . if I were a passenger in an out-of-control airliner, I'd want a pilot with your approach . . .calm, deliberate. It takes all types.

If I were the pilot it would be out of control from the beginning :) It's cool that fans come in all shapes, sizes, feelings, etc. If they were all the same it would be boring.

[bradleybasketballfan]

What isn't going to be alowed is for the "Debbie Downers" to hijack any thread with positive Bradley news and try to turn it into a negative. Anyone who wants to be glum and unhappy about Bradley's current situation and their future is welcome to it. In fact, there are entire internet forums that seem dedicated to such negativism.

This thread is about a "major basketball recruiting coup" (those are Dave Reynolds' words, not mine), and we intend to keep it on topic. Thanks.

Da Coach. Come on dude. Where did I say anything negative about Jordan Prosser? Where did I say that I was unhappy about Bradley?

Please, take your emotion out of it and look at what was posted. If incorrect information was posted about Bradley basketball then I understand. But it wasn't. If something negative was said about Jordan Prosser than I understand. Again, it wasn't.

Nothing but good things have been stated about Mr. Prosser on this thread.

[brocks]

So anyway, back to JP . . .

I saw on one of the Iowa boards after it came out that Prosser verballed to BU that someone wrote, "I think we passed on Prosser."

That's hilarious, and you knew it was coming.

For those who've been around a while, isn't this JR Koch in reverse? If I remember correctly he came down to Bradley and IOWA too . . . with a slightly different result.

[bradleybasketballfan]

So anyway, back to JP . . .

I saw on one of the Iowa boards after it came out that Prosser verballed to BU that someone wrote, "I think we passed on Prosser."

That's hilarious, and you knew it was coming.

For those who've been around a while, isn't this JR Koch in reverse? If I remember correctly he came down to Bradley and IOWA too . . . with a slightly different result.

I don't think Koch came down to BU and Iowa. But Mark Vershaw did come down to BU and Wisky. I know Coach Mo and everyone involved where shocked when Mark chose Wisky. Turned out good for Vershaw.

As I said, whether Prosser turns out good or not, no one knows. But this is the type of kid Bradley has missed out on in the past. Prosser is obviously smart. He knew/knows BU is currently a better program than Iowa right now and that's tough to even debate.

[Da Coach]

Marcellus Sommerville also picked Iowa over strong interest from BU and Coach Mo. But we got back at them for that one, too.:D

[bradleybasketballfan]

Marcellus Sommerville also picked Iowa over strong interest from BU and Coach Mo. But we got back at them for that one, too.:D

True. It certainly helps to have Chuck Buescher working for you as opposed to against you. But that too is water under the proverbial bridge.

Iowa is just bad right now and while Lickliter was good at Butler, I don't see him making Iowa elite again.

[brocks]

Also note that among Coleman's "best of the rest" for '09 is none other than Milos Knezevic. If JL scores again this could wind up a ranked recruiting class, FWIW.

[Da Coach]

His listing for the 2009 junior college rankings includes both Dwight Buycks and Leon Powell in his top 17 jucos for 2009.
Buycks has already verballed to Marquette, but Powell hasn't committed, yet.

[BUFAN]

Haven't seen this info yet and thought it worthy of its own thread.

Van Coleman is regarded as possibly the best recruiting analyst in the business.

He has Jordan Prosser WELL into his top 100 prospects for 2009 at #71, ahead of players headed to the likes of UCLA and Indiana. And miracle of miracles, that list was updated less than two months ago, and JP was STILL in the top 100 even though he was already clearly considering lowly BU.

Coleman also has Prosser listed at 6-9 and 225. Called this commitment "huge."

So when's the last time Bradley landed a Hoopmasters Top 100 recruit?

I think I remember reading that Rashad Austin was no. 54 in his class.

[bradleybasketballfan]

We will never know, but it could have turned out even better had he gone to BU.
I think Patrick O'Bryant is supporting evidence for that, as I am confident had POB gone to Wisconsin or Minnesota, he'd have never seen the floor for a couple years, and by the time he graduated, he'd have been looking to Europe to play,
but at BU he got the floor early, got to play an important part in the game plan and offense,
and has already earned a few million in the NBA as a result of it.

Anyone know what team Mark Vershaw is playing for, and how many years he stayed in the NBA?
In fact, how many big men from Wisconsin have made it in the NBA?
Actually, here's a better question....can anyone even name a big man from Wisconsin who has ever even played a single game in the NBA.
it IS possible, but I doubt anyone can do it without looking it up.

Hey, one last question...name a Missouri Valley team that has had as many players play in the NBA as Big Ten Wisconsin has?
Answer..... you guessed it, Bradley...

Obviously we never know. I try not to play the "what-if" game. It doesn't do any good. Mark had a nice career at Wisky, played in a Final Four, got a degree. Good for him. He isn't anything like Patrick O' Bryant as a player and vice versa.

[dogsrus]

Are you the coach demanding me to sit out? :) I never said one bad thing about Jordan Prosser. I said he seems like a good recruit. Is this considered a bad thing? Of course all teams get players they "think may do better in the college game". I don't know a coach out there who wants to get bad players.

I didn't realize fans all had to fit in the exact same mold or that some fans opinions matter more than others.


I have to agree....this is all about opinions and we should take em all for what they are...opinons.

I am excited about JP but also understand, in the back of my mind, nothing is a given.

I guess what some are saying is its time to celebrate and "worry" about results later.:) I mean alls we have now are numbers and hype so lets have some fun. If that isn't your cup o T...I respect that.

[brocks]

I think I remember reading that Rashad Austin was no. 54 in his class.

Might be right on that . . . should add to the question . . . "right out of high school"

[Guinness]

You're all talking about height like it's a sure measure of their skill.

All I have to say to that is 'Dave Collins' and 'Daniel Ruffin'.

[basketball nut]

I can understand where BBF is coming from but maybe thsi wasn't the time to take it so deep and personal by some on the board. I am very excited to have JP cioming to BU but one never knows how hard he is going to be willing to work to make himself better. From everything I have heard of this young man I really do not believe this will be the case here but one never knows. As I have said before look at JC and the difference in how he did each of his first 3 years at BU. Agood first year but then didn't think he had to work too hard for his soph season and rode the bench. This made him realize what it woudl take to be the player everyone thought he could be and it turned out great for him his junior and senior season.
I hope JP has watched and learned from JC and even JJ as to what it takes to be great rather then just good. This is college and all of the players were stars on their teams.

[Buesch N Chips]

Pantagraph has a blurb and photo on their website....

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/08/04/scholastic/doc489745b4913f8771599820.txt

[mrcoachdude]

I know I am late and back a few pages but.......................YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

Congrats Jordan and welcome to the BU family....I will enjoy watching you at this next level....

Folks....we got a good one.....I am not predicting stardom or anything like that as one never knows...but....this youngman will make Bradley and the Peoria area proud...on and off the court.....

on a side note......thanks to those who texted me about this.....it is great news......

[VeveJones007]

This is just awesome! I don't know what else to say.

[mrcoachdude]

We know you were the one who taught Jordan all he knows, Mrcoachdude, so we had to tip you off ASAP.
In fact, I am surprised you weren't asked to be the new Bradley Director of Basketball Operations in an effort to land Prosser... ;)

All he knows....NOT!....;)

I saw him a while back and had my BU shirt on......maybe it helped :) .....I have another star coming up through the ranks.....maybe I can get a job offer on the next one :)

[shaunguth]

Just to pick one name from bbf's list of guys BU just missed on.....

Here are Fay's numbers from last season:

10.9 min/game

2.4 points/game

1.8 rebounds/game

62% ft shooting

9 assists, 20 turnovers, 4 blocks

I most certainly hope JP's numbers are better than this if he's getting 11 minutes/game!

[brocks]

Just to pick one name from bbf's list of guys BU just missed on.....

Here are Fay's numbers from last season:

10.9 min/game

2.4 points/game

1.8 rebounds/game

62% ft shooting

9 assists, 20 turnovers, 4 blocks

I most certainly hope JP's numbers are better than this if he's getting 11 minutes/game!

I know JL wanted Fay pretty bad, but I doubt he was as highly rated a recruit as Prosser. I don't remember him having so many flirtations with the likes of Indiana & ND, etc.

[ER3]

I know JL wanted Fay pretty bad, but I doubt he was as highly rated a recruit as Prosser. I don't remember him having so many flirtations with the likes of Indiana & ND, etc.
Prosser is definitely a higher profile recruit than Fay was. He's a great get for Les and BU.
Now let's get a couple shooters and a Theron Wilson type of player and we will be in pretty good shape for the next 4 or 5 years...

[SFP]

With this signing are we still going after Wilkens and would he play the 5. We are a bit loaded in a good way at the 4! I would expect TB capable of playing the 3, ala Scottie Pippen, WE could spend some time out there if he starts hitting his 3s and ballhandling skills. I also expect SH to play the 4 coming off the bench more likely and adding energy. Coach K said he has a tremendous engine and I just wish we had him this year! There is some real size! Gotta love it!

[SycamoreFanatic]

From Sycamore Land: A recruit of this apparent level is good for all the Valley. Keep them coming & we will try to do our part as the Sycamores attempt to make a run for the (Valley) roses in the next year or two. We made small steps last season and expect to make more this season.

:D

[Braveman]

Are you the coach demanding me to sit out? :) I never said one bad thing about Jordan Prosser. I said he seems like a good recruit. Is this considered a bad thing? Of course all teams get players they "think may do better in the college game". I don't know a coach out there who wants to get bad players.

I didn't realize fans all had to fit in the exact same mold or that some fans opinions matter more than others.


Ooooh A sore point with some here bbfan

[BuBraves55]

Prosser is definitely a higher profile recruit than Fay was. He's a great get for Les and BU.
Now let's get a couple shooters and a Theron Wilson type of player and we will be in pretty good shape for the next 4 or 5 years...

im with ya- DOES ANYONE KNOW IF JEREMY HAS ANY BROTHERS?

[PTownHawkeye]

From Sycamore Land: A recruit of this apparent level is good for all the Valley. Keep them coming & we will try to do our part as the Sycamores attempt to make a run for the (Valley) roses in the next year or two. We made small steps last season and expect to make more this season.

:D

Great post and thanks for coming to the site...I always respect the fan of a conference opponent who realizes that Bradley or any Valley school who gets a commitment from a high level recruit is good for the Valley's recruiting as a whole. With McKenna at the helm, things are moving in the right direction at Indiana St.

[Buesch N Chips]

There is also a short video clip of Jordan from 2006 about one third of the way down this (http://www.district140.org/EHS/Webs/sports/videoclips.htm) page off the Eureka website.

[Da Coach]

That was a short clip, but a sweet dunk. Here is the direct video link--
http://www.district140.org/EHS/Webs/sports/prosserdunk.mpg


Here is Jim Mattson's news story on Prosser's commitment.
It has a link to some realy good video clips in the upper right of the article--
http://www.hoinews.com/sports/sports_story.aspx?id=169790

Direct link to WHOI video--
http://www.hoinews.com/sports/video.aspx?id=169790

[brocks]

I think Beninator deserves some props for this comment on the Milos thread:

"EXACTLY!

Nice start to the recruiting class. I am dreaming out loud, but would love to see Prosser added to the class with this kid!"

Hmmm . . . a prophet in our midst?

Beni . . . tell us who you want next so it'll come true!

[scout4126]

This commitment was predicted over a week ago: http://midstatehoops.com/blog/?p=69

One reason why I love that site's content. Always seems to be accurate/

[Beninator]

This commitment was predicted over a week ago: http://midstatehoops.com/blog/?p=69

One reason why I love that site's content. Always seems to be accurate/

Way to steal my thunder scout.:wink::lol: (just kidding)

I think Beninator deserves some props for this comment on the Milos thread:

"EXACTLY!

Nice start to the recruiting class. I am dreaming out loud, but would love to see Prosser added to the class with this kid!"

Hmmm . . . a prophet in our midst?

Beni . . . tell us who you want next so it'll come true!

Not a prophet but I will claim to be lucky.:lol: Like JL and staff, let's aim high.... I would like to add Darius Smith to this class and make the '09 recruiting class special.

This topic (next recruit to commit) sounds like a new thread in the making....

[ER3]

.... I would like to add Darius Smith to this class and make the '09 recruiting class special.


Darius Smith, David Brown, Chris Colvin, Dyricus Simms-Edwards, Tim Frazier...

I'd love to see any of those guys added to the 2009 class...We've got some (potentially) very solid bigs in place, now we need to start adding some equally impressive guards and wings....

[brocks]

Way to steal my thunder scout.:wink::lol: (just kidding)



Not a prophet but I will claim to be lucky.:lol: Like JL and staff, let's aim high.... I would like to add Darius Smith to this class and make the '09 recruiting class special.

This topic (next recruit to commit) sounds like a new thread in the making....

Mods . . . maybe a pick 'em? BTW, Beni . . . that's who I was hoping you'd say!

[SFP]

I agree, but scout, I have been sending a few of our regular posters some "blog-type" private messages about recruiting, and I think those guys will attest that I predicted it as far back as early July (for those who want to check, see the July 12 & 13 installment), that Prosser was still looking very closely at BU and would pick BU over all those other offers.

OK guys I know both of you have been pretty good with predictions, I want to know who is next! You can PM me or just answer the question on this thread. Reading a few sites I have a feeling we'll hear of one or two pretty soon.

BTW any news on Wilkens lately. We still could use a big body this year that can rebound!

[mexicobufan]

Sorry I just hated to see this thread heading down the page. This was one of the best threads as a Bradley fan in a long time!!! I hate to let it go!!!

[SFP]

Hey Mex I feel you but this guy is next year and it's healthier if we let it go for now! We'll have 4 years of talking him up :D

I like talking about this year's team and it's potential.

[mexicobufan]

So you are saying I need to live in the here and now and not the future? I will let it go but let me say one last time this was a GOOD day!!!

[SFP]

Yea something like that lol. It's only fair to give the guys we have now the attention they deserve.

[wily coyote]

I agree, but scout, I have been sending a few of our regular posters some "blog-type" private messages about recruiting, and I think those guys will attest that I predicted it as far back as early July (for those who want to check, see the July 12 & 13 installment), that Prosser was still looking very closely at BU and would pick BU over all those other offers.

Yes , Tornado did indeed call this one back in July. Great call, great get for Bu. I've known his dad for many years, having officiated for him many times in Manito. We welcome Jordan and his whole family to our Bu family. Stan maybe we can catch up on old times on some road trips.Schmitty and I certainly enjoy working for you when you were at M/F. Once a Brave always a Brave.

[shaunguth]

http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x1751712715/Bradley-gets-bigger-with-signings-of-Prosser-Knezevic

http://www.bradleybraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=25965&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=1623456

[Big Mike]

YES.....good news indeed! :D

[SFP]

Glad to see that they held a signing ceremony for JP. I am curious to know why his concerns regarding shooting the 3. I would hope most his shots are in the paint. If he develops a sweet 15 footer that would be great, anything further out means our guards are not doing their job.

[Big Mike]

Couldn't find anything new on Milos and his high school still shows last year on its roster page but I found this old article from Sept......http://www.liberty.ufans.com/index.php?menu=newsstory&news=308&t=SUB1&sport=BSKB

[tornado]

No word yet on any of the ISU LOI's?

[thefish7]

That's great news. Welcome, officially, to the program, boys.

[tornado]

Congratulations Milos & Jordan....fans will love both of you and your hard work.
BU loses one 7-footer, so we need to replace the size!!

[Rusty 54]

Welcome to the hilltop, gentlemen. Lets go get some championships!!!!!!

[Bradleyguy10]

I'm truly excited about Prosser...unless Will and AT get some minutes this season to develop for next..he may be in the mix for a starting spot next season....depending on how good of game shape he is in when that time comes. I honestly don't see why he couldn't.

Heck come here now!

[dogsrus]

I'm truly excited about Prosser...unless Will and AT get some minutes this season to develop for next..he may be in the mix for a starting spot next season....depending on how good of game shape he is in when that time comes. I honestly don't see why he couldn't.

Heck come here now!

I hope he's good enough to warrant starting BUT if we are relying on freshman we are in trouble....

[Bradleyguy10]

That's what I'm saying haha....if At and WE don't get some minutes...we WILL be in trouble

[Big Mike]

BU article.....http://www.bradleybraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=1623456

[ser_solace]

Great news to have these guys confirmed. Welcome, Jordan and Milos!

[tornado]

No word yet on any of the ISU LOI's?


two of ISU's recruits have signed...but a little concern that the other two are not mentioned..
http://redbirdfan.com/msgforum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10542

[BradleyBrave]

I'm truly excited about Prosser...unless Will and AT get some minutes this season to develop for next..he may be in the mix for a starting spot next season....

Umm...no. If that's the case then WE and AT are tremendous busts and we're likely going to be playing in. POB was the exception rather than norm. Freshmen, and especially bigs, need time to develop. Prosser will likely be no different. It's not a knock, just the norm.

[SFP]

Umm...no. If that's the case then WE and AT are tremendous busts and we're likely going to be playing in. POB was the exception rather than norm. Freshmen, and especially bigs, need time to develop. Prosser will likely be no different. It's not a knock, just the norm.

Very few bigs can come in their freshman year and dominate but there have been a few and in the last few years there seems to be more of a common phenomena with the likes of Beasley, Oden and Love. If he comes in with the right attitude and works real hard between now and next year why not? I'm all about encouragement. The sky is the limit.

[BradleyBrave]

Very few bigs can come in their freshman year and dominate but there have been a few and in the last few years there seems to be more of a common phenomena with the likes of Beasley, Oden and Love. If he comes in with the right attitude and works real hard between now and next year why not? I'm all about encouragement. The sky is the limit.

The Beasleys, Odens, and Loves aren't coming to BU. I'm about encouragement, but I am also about being realistic. Let's be happy that we're getting quality four year big men who will mature into solid contributors.

[mrcoachdude]

I am busting with pride for Jordan....what a fine young man Bradley is getting and he will be SOLID for us from day one....

Congrats Jordan!! I am proud of you and your hard work has paid off........

[shaunguth]

Prosser signing:
http://www.hoinews.com/sports/video.aspx?id=221361

http://centralillinoisproud.com/media_player.php?media_id=42351

Great to see the room full of people to witness the signing!

[tornado]

coachdude, you get the credit for this one, since you taught him just about everything he knows... ;)


and wow, 112 people online viewing the threads at 9PM!!

[mrcoachdude]

coachdude, you get the credit for this one, since you taught him just about everything he knows... ;)


and wow, 112 people online viewing the threads at 9PM!!

it was a pleasure that his parents allowed him to join us for a few games that summer...I knew he was going to a great player...hard work ethic..knowledge of the game beyond his years.....and he was very very polite around my family....his parents should be proud...they have done well.... :)

[Big Mike]

update from pjs on what will be in paper tomorrow....sounding good for Wilkins.......http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x1275807732/Bradley-fits-the-bill

[Da Coach]

Did anyone else notice that Jordan Prosser signed his LOI left-handed.
I have watched him play basketball a number of times, and he shoots and plays right-handed, but can use his left hand quite well. He may be ambidextrious, and I know there are a lot of golfers and participants in other sports who play with their non-dominant hands, but I am not sure I have ever seen a basketball player who does that.
http://hoinews.com/sports/video.aspx?id=221361

http://centralillinoisproud.com/media_player.php?media_id=42351

[tornado]

Mike-- the news about Wilkins passing his SAT with a very good score, is actually OLD news.....check your old blogs if you saved any, as I mentioned that a couple weeks ago...
The SAT test date was Oct. 4, and the results were known by about 10/20

In fact, by now John Wilkins also has the results of the ACT he took a couple weeks ago (on Oct. 25), since my own daughter got her report yesterday and I know John Wilkins took his the same day.
Another poster who has knowledge of the situation has said JW also expects a fine score on that...
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=97153#post97153

Right now, the academics seem in order...and we need the NCAA Clearinghouse to act quickly.

[RedbirdFan21]

two of ISU's recruits have signed...but a little concern that the other two are not mentioned..
http://redbirdfan.com/msgforum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10542

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/11/12/usports/doc491b92765c23f382596363.txt

ISU has verbal commitments from a pair of players from Chrisman High School in Independence, Mo. — guard Justin Clark and forward Jon Ekey. Because of a death in Ekey’s family, they are not expected to sign and fax their letters of intent until late this week or early next week.

[tornado]

They'd better...Rivals just said they are the best recruits in the Valley!!! ;)

[Beninator]

Congratualtions to Jordan and Milos. I am looking forward to seeing these two players in the future.

Also looking forward to future Bradleyfans road trips to Eureka HS basketball games.:)

[TNel]

Great news. With all the returning "bigs," those recently signed and and verbally committed, let's hope the talent level is high enough that we're able to play more than one of them at a time. The four-guard offense has served us well, but I continue to think we can't win the Valley when we're so frequently out-rebounded

[georgethedog]

Great news. With all the returning "bigs," those recently signed and and verbally committed, let's hope the talent level is high enough that we're able to play more than one of them at a time. The four-guard offense has served us well, but I continue to think we can't win the Valley when we're so frequently out-rebounded

Well stated. Agreed.

[Beninator]

Great news. With all the returning "bigs," those recently signed and and verbally committed, let's hope the talent level is high enough that we're able to play more than one of them at a time. The four-guard offense has served us well, but I continue to think we can't win the Valley when we're so frequently out-rebounded

I am personally a big fan of the 4 forward offense. Tough to do at a mid-major level though...

[tornado]

any chance that in time we might develop a 6-9 point guard? ;)

[Beninator]

any chance that in time we might develop a 6-9 point guard? ;)

If we get that pg, then I would love to get a center with a Mike Williams "take no prisioners mentality" with the last scholarship.:idea:

If that person is out there for us!

[ph]

Great news. With all the returning "bigs," those recently signed and and verbally committed, let's hope the talent level is high enough that we're able to play more than one of them at a time. The four-guard offense has served us well, but I continue to think we can't win the Valley when we're so frequently out-rebounded

I'd say playing more, bigger, players in the same system is the plan. JP's quote (in at least one article) was that he needed to keep working on ball-handling and 3 point shooting.

[BradleyBrave]

Top spring recruiting priority - Find a shooter. We've addressed every need except for that one.

[amckillip]

Top spring recruiting priority - Find a shooter. We've addressed every need except for that one.

Couldn't agree more. But it needs to be a shooter that can guard the opposing teams 3, like JC, not like a smaller Roth-mold player who is more limited to the 2.

[georgethedog]

any chance that in time we might develop a 6-9 point guard? ;)

If he stays long enough...

[ER3]

Top spring recruiting priority - Find a shooter. We've addressed every need except for that one.

Absolutely. If we are going to run this same offense going forward, we have to keep stocking the cupboards with guys that can shoot 3s...
We don't want to run the risk of adding athlete after athlete, and then find ourselves in a situation where we are an extremely athletic team full of a bunch of 6'5" to 6'9" guys that can run and jump but can't make a shot...

[tornado]

george, you are guilty of a most serious violation...you have suddenly doomed a player to fail by putting such lofty expectations upon him!!

[ph]

Top spring recruiting priority - Find a shooter. We've addressed every need except for that one.
Who's our 5 next year? We are losing our 2 best 5's(DC and SS), and everybody seems to think AT and WE are 4's...

[tornado]

I think WE, AT, and JP will share the duty

[SFP]

Absolutely. If we are going to run this same offense going forward, we have to keep stocking the cupboards with guys that can shoot 3s...
We don't want to run the risk of adding athlete after athlete, and then find ourselves in a situation where we are an extremely athletic team full of a bunch of 6'5" to 6'9" guys that can run and jump but can't make a shot...
ER3 You are dead on. That is exactly what Gary Williams at Maryland has recruited and see where that has placed them lately. We need someone that can create on his own and shoot the long-ball.

[Da Coach]

Eureka and Jordan Prosser play Friday, Saturday, and Monday in the 24th annual Hawk Classic tournament in Fairbury, IL.
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/25/scholastic/doc49544a9c59ee6238187072.txt

[tornado]

They have a good chance of winning that tourney....
They are the top seed and their toughest competition come from Dwight (6-1), GCMS (Gibson City-Melvin-Sibley), and Prairie Central.

[Da Coach]

BU's other 2009 recruit Milos Knezevic is also playing in a holiday tournament this weekend. Liberty High School is playing in the MaxPreps Torrey Pines Invitational, one of the top tournaments in the west, and includes 77 teams from all over the US.
http://www.liberty.ufans.com/index.php?menu=announcement&announcement=64&sport=BSKB


The Libery team also did a little charity work this week.
http://www.liberty.ufans.com/index.php?menu=newsstory&news=354&t=TPST&sport=BSKB
Team picture at hospital- Milos is in the back, just right of center.
http://www.liberty.ufans.com/media/newsstories/news_354_topstory.jpg

[Da Coach]

Jordan Prosser had 16 points and 11 rebounds in an easy win by Eureka over Flanagan-Cornell 69-42.
Eureka plays again tonight at 8:00 pm against Gardner-South Wilmington.

[tornado]

they have to play several games over the weekend, I suspect JP got rested...

[tornado]

In other 1st round action in the Hawk Classic, the #3 seed, GCMS, got upset by 6th seed Lexington.
AND the #4 seed, Prairie Central also was upset as well and got beat by #5 seed GSW (Gardner South-Wilmington.

Lexington 74 - GCMS 67

also
Dwight 71 - Iroquois 64.
GSW 56 - Prairie Central 48
Eureka 69 - Flanagan 42 (Prosser sat out the 4th quarter according to news coverage)

So Eureka will face #5 seed GSW today (at 8PM), and if they win, they will face the winner of #6 Lexington/#2 Dwight for the championship Monday.

[amettrick]

Just in case anyone was wondering, the Hawk Classic was postponed today due to power outages caused by the storm that passed through the area. It's scheduled to resume play on Monday I believe.

[tornado]

Interesting....I spent the day down at the State Farm Classic in Bloomington, weather was warm & rainy but not bad.

[amettrick]

Well, the storm didn't last long in the B-N area, maybe half an hour or so, but there were some pretty high wins and heavy rain for a bit.

Here's the info on the Hawk Classic delay:
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/27/scholastic/doc4956bcc1b0179551754736.txt

[BradleyBrave]

Just in case anyone was wondering, the Hawk Classic was postponed today due to power outages caused by the storm that passed through the area. It's scheduled to resume play on Monday I believe.

This information would have been very valuable BEFORE I drove over an hour to an empty Prairie Central HS in Fairbury. Route 24 is nice and all...but man did that suck!

[amettrick]

oooh sorry man. thats not a particularly fun trip when you don't get to see any basketball.

[Da Coach]

Eureka High School won Monday night 79-48 over Gardner-South Wilmington High School. They now move to the championship game of the Hawk Classic against Dwight HS. Eureka record moves to 5-4. Jordan Prosser had 11 points and 10 rebounds. He was triple-teamed all game, but Eureka's guards hit their open shots.
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/30/scholastic/doc4959cdd752827267915863.txt[/URL]

box score-
[URL]http://www.pantagraph.com/varsitysports/?sport_id=1&view=boxscore&view_id=22424 (http://www.pantagraph.com/varsitysports/?sport_id=1&show=schedule)

[SaintLouBrave22]

Sounds like this tournament lacks competition...

It certainly isn't up to par with the State Farm Classic, Pekin Insurance Holiday Tournament, or the Carbondale Tournament even...

[Da Coach]

It's intended for small schools.

[Da Coach]

The Eureka Hornets won the championship of the Hawk Classic for the second year in a row.
Also, Jordan Prosser was named MVP of the tournament for the second straight year. They beat Lexington 63-53 for the title, with Prosser scoring 16 points and grabbing 12 rebounds. Eureka's record is now 6-4.
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/31/scholastic/doc495afeb2177eb351725149.txt

[lefty]

Here's an interesting article if anyone interested...

It is about a high school game last night between Dwight & St. Anne.
http://www.daily-journal.com/archives/dj/display.php?id=433563

Tons of fouls, "questionable calls", seven technicals, coach ejected, and one team
shot 40 free throws while the other shot only four!
One player on Dwight scored 24 points in the game on one single made field goal!
(He hit 21 OF 24 FTs as he shot all the technicals.)


Reading some of the posts at the end of the column this must have been some display by officials,players and coaches.
I wonder when they play again....it could be very entertaining

[Buesch N Chips]

I think I actually got dumber reading the comments at the end. Wow.

[lefty]

Those are some good comments, I had not read those until you mentioned them.
I wonder if we might get one of those refs at a game somewhere down the road at our kids' school? I recall we did play a Sectional right up there in Mendota one year didn't we, lefty? In fact, that was the game we got a "T" for 6 players on the court!! ;)

Hopefully we wouldn't get one of those refs. Seems like they really lost control. Sounds like they were not very experienced at all.
It was in Mendota for the sectional although it seemed like the refs were ok...of course we won so no harm done;).

The place that was the worst was Hartsburg-Emden. That's why we don't play them anymore. You just tried to get out alive.

[wily coyote]

Those are some good comments, I had not read those until you mentioned them.
I wonder if we might get one of those refs at a game somewhere down the road at our kids' school? I recall we did play a Sectional right up there in Mendota one year didn't we, lefty? In fact, that was the game we got a "T" for 6 players on the court!! ;)

Hey T not surprising a"T" for six on the court. Least they were doing their job. Just reading the comments about that game makes me sick. To think people act and place blame like that on players ,coaches and officials when we have much worse problems in this country, LIKE our YOUNG MEN losing their lives so those *****s can act like that. Those two schools are whats wrong with High School sports today and it will probably get worse for it gets better.

[Buesch N Chips]

oddly, since Hart-Em went to hiring their own principals and teachers as refs,

Amen. And not just in basketball.

[Big Mike]

27.....the # of points JP needs to become Eureka's all time scoring leader!

Right now JP is siting on 1,322 trailing only Chris Martin (1,348 ) who is playing professionally in Europe! :D

PS...maybe he can get them in one game! :razz:

[mrcoachdude]

Congrats to Eureka's all time leading scorer Jordan Prosser...

32 points tonight!
Along with 14 rebounds

Great job Jordan!

[Big Mike]

WOW.....I said that as a joke......didn't really expect JP the do it in one game! :cool:

[Da Coach]

Prosser's 32 lifts Eureka past Rantoul
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2009/01/09/scholastic/doc49683420d11c4437016639.txt

[CABUFan]

All this talk about Sam coming back next year and what his role will be has me wondering what we will get from our freshman bigs next year. Based on everything I've heard about Prosser (mostly from this board) my impression may be the rare big who can contribute--possibly even start?--as a freshman. Obviously, its impossible to know for certain how quickly anyone will transition to D1, but I know that a lot of you have seen a lot of JP... Am I being unrealistic in thinking he will be a factor right away?

I'm asking only about JP and not Milos 1) because my impression is JP is probably more likely to be an immediate impact guy and 2) because I doubt anyone on here has enough first hand info on Milos to make any accurate predictions about him.

Thanks.

[Big Mike]

I hve only seen JP play 3 times this year and will go to his game WED night against Manual, but I see him getting some good minutes next season....I also see a 3-headed monster at the 5 next season with JP-WE-SS splitting time....but there are still some questions!
1-WE's knee will be fully healed in time for next season but how long it takes to trust it in game situations is another thing!
2-how long will it take JP to adjust to D1 ball....he is used to playing pretty tough AAU schedules and plays pick-up with current Braves already so lets hope it won't take long!
3-Right now the odd man out would be AT unles they move him to a 4 with TB or maybe CR?
4-Where will MK fit in....never seen him play so is he a 3 or 4?
5-In my perfect world the Braves would play any combo of JP-SS-WE-AT-MK-TB at the same time causing some match-up problems yet still having depth for fouls!

[BradleyBrave]

Expect Prosser to be a solid contributor down low off the bench, similar to what Sam Singh has given us this year. Prosser has better post fundamentals than anyone currently on the roster, and will give us something that we haven't had in a long time.

[SFP]

JP will develop into our first real 4 player since Donald Powell! I expect to see him coming off the bench a bit more then what we have seen TB this year! MK will probably see the floor a bit more then DN has seen it this year. I do not see AT as an odd man out. He will be needed early on next year even with SS at the 5.

[BradleyBrave]

JP will develop into our first real 4 player since Donald Powell! I expect to see him coming off the bench a bit more then what we have seen TB this year! MK will probably see the floor a bit more then DN has seen it this year. I do not see AT as an odd man out. He will be needed early on next year even with SS at the 5.

If players develop the way they're supposed to, SS's minutes should decrease next year...unless we decide to actually play with 2 posts in the game at once. I think it would be wise to explore that option with our current and incoming personnel.

[lefty]

I see JP getting 10-12 minutes next year tops ,which I think will be good. He's going to have a huge adjustment ahead of him. Going from being doubled by smaller guys to being guarded by someone bigger and stronger than him most likely...

[BradleyBrave]

I see JP getting 10-12 minutes next year tops ,which I think will be good. He's going to have a huge adjustment ahead of him. Going from being doubled by smaller guys to being guarded by someone bigger and stronger than him most likely...

I'm not so sure there will be a lot of players bigger or stronger than JP. Yes, he has some maturing to do, but he's already pretty big and strong, especially in his lower body. I don't think strength will be a problem. However, he will need to learn how to properly use that strength against guys bigger than the typical 6'5" Class A post players he's been facing.

[Stryker]

My one hope or thing about Prosser that may be true is his ability to finish around the rim. Really DC is the only player we have had since Zach Andrews that has the ability to consistently hit a good post shot. SS does ok, but more often then not gets a shot blocked or throws up a brick. DC has that smooth shot from 6 ft. out he almost always hits but doesn't take often because we don't get him the ball. Salley would NEVER dunk because he was always outsized under the basket.

Hopefully all the double and triple teams that Prosser has gotten this year and still scored on have helped him toughen up given him the ability to finish around the hoop, kind of like what Wilson is so good at and why TB will be a BEAST once he does it.

In no way to expect Prosser to start next year at any time, but you never know until you see him play, so who knows maybe by the end of next year he will be starting.

[pfunk880]

If players develop the way they're supposed to, SS's minutes should decrease next year...

That's the key.

[BradleyBrave]

My one hope or thing about Prosser that may be true is his ability to finish around the rim. Really DC is the only player we have had since Zach Andrews that has the ability to consistently hit a good post shot. SS does ok, but more often then not gets a shot blocked or throws up a brick. DC has that smooth shot from 6 ft. out he almost always hits but doesn't take often because we don't get him the ball. Salley would NEVER dunk because he was always outsized under the basket.

Hopefully all the double and triple teams that Prosser has gotten this year and still scored on have helped him toughen up given him the ability to finish around the hoop, kind of like what Wilson is so good at and why TB will be a BEAST once he does it.

In no way to expect Prosser to start next year at any time, but you never know until you see him play, so who knows maybe by the end of next year he will be starting.

That's something that JP does better than any post player on the roster right now, and that's finish around the hoop. He can go up in either direction with either hand, and tries to dunk just about everything. I am not saying he's the Second Coming or the Messiah, but he is the most skilled interior recruit we've had in a long time, dating back to the Molinari era.

[CABUFan]

BB, I'm curious, if you don't think strength will be an issue, and you think he is already more skilled than anyone we have, why do you see him coming off the bench? Who do you see playing ahead of him? I suppose WE is the front runner to start at the 5 next year, considering he had the job before he got hurt, but given how little game experience he actually has I'm not sure why he would necessarily be ahead of JP. (Not trying to bad mouth WE at all here, as I expect great things from him, as well as JP; if all these guys progress well our front court could be stacked in a couple of years.)

[Big Mike]

From what I've seen....JP is more natural to the post, action -wise than anyone presently on the Braves(never seems to rush his shot or just throw it up to the rim)...there is no hesitation with him once he receives the ball...more like he has a real purpose down low and some really nice post moves! JP has a real soft touch in his shot...he can dunk it and rarely misses a lay-up....and has been working hard to get open underneath for every possesion(he really wants the ball and knows what to do with it when he gets it) ...even without screens or picks...he never gives up! He will be fine....trust me! :D

[Buesch N Chips]

If players develop the way they're supposed to, SS's minutes should decrease next year...unless we decide to actually play with 2 posts in the game at once. I think it would be wise to explore that option with our current and incoming personnel.

Not a bad idea. Prosser is a great passer, maybe some Bill Self high/low?

[BradleyBrave]

BB, I'm curious, if you don't think strength will be an issue, and you think he is already more skilled than anyone we have, why do you see him coming off the bench? Who do you see playing ahead of him? I suppose WE is the front runner to start at the 5 next year, considering he had the job before he got hurt, but given how little game experience he actually has I'm not sure why he would necessarily be ahead of JP. (Not trying to bad mouth WE at all here, as I expect great things from him, as well as JP; if all these guys progress well our front court could be stacked in a couple of years.)

He is more refined and polished as a true post than anyone on the roster. And yes, strength should not be an issue. But I think that the transition from Class A hoops in Illinois to the MVC is a very big one, and that it would be unreasonable to expect JP to come in and have a major impact from the onset. Very, very few freshmen in general have been able to do that successfully for a team with title aspirations (which I think we should have). Strength-wise and skill-wise JP will be fine and will be able to play, but he is going to have to get used to a whole new level of athleticism and speed. I think using him like we've used Taylor Brown, and maybe Sam Singh would be appropriate.

[Bradleyguy10]

I really don't expect prosser to play the 5 next year. I think he'd be a bit on the small end for that...eventho I don't have his height & weight in front of me.

I think he'll be more of a 4 for us

[leebiddlecome]

That's something that JP does better than any post player on the roster right now, and that's finish around the hoop. He can go up in either direction with either hand, and tries to dunk just about everything. I am not saying he's the Second Coming or the Messiah, but he is the most skilled interior recruit we've had in a long time, dating back to the Molinari era.

Understood BradleyBrave but finishing at the rim against 6-4 dudes from Fieldcrest is a lot different than doing so in the MVC.

If Prosser gives us 15 minutes, 5-6 points and 4-5 rebounds a game then it will be a great success. Freshmen big men aren't major contributors in the MVC very often. Just look at the history of the league.

[Stryker]

Understood BradleyBrave but finishing at the rim against 6-4 dudes from Fieldcrest is a lot different than doing so in the MVC.

If Prosser gives us 15 minutes, 5-6 points and 4-5 rebounds a game then it will be a great success. Freshmen big men aren't major contributors in the MVC very often. Just look at the history of the league.

yes, but he was doing it against 2 or 3 6-3, 6-4 players all year. That counts for something.

[leebiddlecome]

yes, but he was doing it against 2 or 3 6-3, 6-4 players all year. That counts for something.

Understood. But, again, I look at the long history of the MVC. Freshmen big men rarely make big statements. I like Prosser as a recruit but he isn't a whole lot different than guys who have come into the league.

[mrcoachdude]

Thinking he will be just fine at the 4....not the 5...although he could fill time there if needed...I would expect 10-15 minutes a game.....

[georgethedog]

That's something that JP does better than any post player on the roster right now, and that's finish around the hoop. He can go up in either direction with either hand, and tries to dunk just about everything. I am not saying he's the Second Coming or the Messiah, but he is the most skilled interior recruit we've had in a long time, dating back to the Molinari era.

OK, is he as skilled as Deon Jackson??? Talk about someone who tried to dunk everything anywhere near the basket. That guy was strong.

[Rusty 54]

In Valley games, DC is averaging 4.6 pts/game and 4 rebounds/game. SS is averaging 4.6 pts/game and 3.1 rebounds/game. If we get 5-6 pts per game and 4-5 rebounds out of JP along with SS's stats going up a little and Egolf contributing, as well as Brown we could be scary good in the post next year. And that would open up shots for Warren and SM.... oh man.......

[real fan]

Prosser is a true post player and if he and Will were in at tha same time I would have to think Will would play the 4 spot. With as good as our guards should be next season it should make it somewhat easier for our post players so I would not be worried about J.P. being a freshman because he is a good player.

[saluki762]

I have never seen Prosser play but look at O'Rear from UNI and Fay from SIU. Both were excellent Class A post players and really provided nothing until their Sophomore years. Ecpect the same from Prosser. This is in no way a shot against him. The jump from Class A high school basketball to the Valley is huge and he will struggle with this just like virtually every class A post player.

[SFP]

I have never seen Prosser play but look at O'Rear from UNI and Fay from SIU. Both were excellent Class A post players and really provided nothing until their Sophomore years. Ecpect the same from Prosser. This is in no way a shot against him. The jump from Class A high school basketball to the Valley is huge and he will struggle with this just like virtually every class A post player.

I agree! Let's not get carried away with JP. I bet by the time the MVC tournament begins he'll be so much better... The speed and strength of the game from HS at any level to Division I is quite difficult to overcome in a few months especially for the bigs. There is a huge difference between an 18 year old and a 21 year old. I look forward to seeing him come off the bench and giving us TB like performance anything else would be icing. Right now he is a man amoung boys but at the next level he'll just be like everyone else.