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A couple thoughts on Kelvin Sampson

tornado

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Two widely differing views.

First, from the Indianapolis Star.
This guy makes it sound like poor, little, persecuted Kelvin Sampson is being wrongly
accused of all sorts of mean thingies, and that it's just not fair.
He even gives a few subtle rips at the NABC, an organization that Sampson is the virtual poster child for.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060820/COLUMNISTS01/608200464/1004/SPORTS

Then another local paper in Indiana tells it like it is and even calls Kelvin Sampson a "vulture" for going after Eric Gordon.
and he wonders if Sampson's techniques will make IU into "UNLV East"
He calls for Sampson to STOP in order to save IU's reputation.
http://www.theheraldbulletin.com/sports/local_story_231232042.html?keyword=topstory
 
flipper said:
will be fun to watch illinois and indiana square off this season. :mrgreen:

I agree, I know that during my time on campus (2000-2005) there wasn't the intense hatred for Indiana that always existed during the Knight-Henson era. I guarantee you that Weber does not like Sampson now, and I'm pretty sure not too many of the other Big Ten coaches are real thrilled with this turn of events. I also realize that this could all be ended if Eric Gordon said "I'm going to Illinois, stop contacting me", but he has not said that at least to Indiana.

Either way, the games will be intense for sure. Especially the one year that Gordon is actually playing, for whichever team he plays for.
 
Roll with the Funches said:
Especially the one year that Gordon is actually playing, for whichever team he plays for.

And you can be sure the teams will only face each other once and it will be in C/U.
 
I hope you will accept a WSU perspective on this. I've followed OU stuff a bit since OU tried to hire WSU's baseball coach, volleyball coach and basketball coach.

It didn't take Gene Stephenson 10 minutes to get in his car and head back to Wichita after he met with OU's NCAA Compliance Officer.

Sampson had an assistant who ended up at Fresno St. and got into the tall grass with the NCAA when FresnoSt was already on probation.

OU fans don't care about cheating. They only care about winning and whether they get caught cheating.

Sampson has been coaching for 10+ years in an environment where "bending the rules" is accepted and considered normal. OU fans still boast about how Barry Switzer almost never got caught. Switzer is a hero in OU athletics.

Sampson was going to get the axe at OU because he got caught.

Indiana is a "destination" job. I don't think Sampson has found his final destination yet. Sampson seems to have all the qualifications to be an outsting JuCo coach.
 
Da Coach said:

This article is very hard to stomach!
It basically says NOTHING except, that we shouldn't be too hard on poor little Kelvin, because there are others cheating, too.
Of course he doesn't cite any examples, except maybe the thinly veiled reference to Eddie Sutton and the package of cash headed for recruit Chris Mills back in the mid-1980's!!

If the guy can't come up with an example more recent than nealr 20 years ago to try to minimize Sampson's violations, then shut the heck up!
(PS-maybe the single best example of the NCAA actually giving out a penalty, although it was pretty mild, to a major BCS-type school was the example of Kentucky/Sutton, so again it's a bad example.)
 
tough question..
But they've had way more time to grow their dislike for Alford.
I think it will take a few years for the dislike of Sampson to achieve Alford-like levels.
 
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