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6 MVC games Saturday 12/10

UWM-UNI game looks good by record..although it doesn't appear UWM has played anyone yet.

I wonder if Dave Snell has changed his tune about Frostbite Falls "why we ever let UNI in the Valley is beyond me".....
 
UWM beat a Big East team, although not one of the better ones (DePaul at DePaul), and they were competetive at Michigan State, their only loss. They are pretty good, and it proves you can build a team around transfers which goes against the common logic that you have to build around HS recruits and maybe fill gaps with transfers. They start 2 transfers who were originally from MVC schools (James Haarsma and Kaylon Williams), and 3 juco transfers (Paris Gulley, Ryan Allen, and Williams).

And I think Dave has already admitted UNI is good for the MVC, but I don't think he'll ever drop the Frostbit Falls reference. It always seems like it's very cold with knee deep snow when we play there.
 
four of their top 6 players in playing time (Williams, Haarsma, Allen, Gulley) are transfers from other D-I's or jucos...so they are a little bit of a Transfer U.
 
St Joe's improves to 7-3. They have a decent, but not great win against a mediocre Georgia Tech team, and a loss against Seton Hall. Not much else on their schedule, but they did have two head scratching losses agains Iona and American U. Looks like they got their quality top 25 non-con win of the year, and perhaps they may be a very good team. At least I'm sure that's what Creighton is hoping for when Selection Sunday rolls around.
 
Bravesfan said:
St Joe's improves to 7-3. They have a decent, but not great win against a mediocre Georgia Tech team, and a loss against Seton Hall. Not much else on their schedule, but they did have two head scratching losses agains Iona and American U. Looks like they got their quality top 25 non-con win of the year, and perhaps they may be a very good team. At least I'm sure that's what Creighton is hoping for when Selection Sunday rolls around.
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I would hardly call a loss to Iona head scratching. Iona looks to have the makings of a very good team this year and they will be dancing come march. Probably a top 5 mid-major team. Their only loss was to Purdue 91-90.
 
Rather have MSU and UNI win their games than for Creighton to win.
The UNI game was especially critical to keep At-large chances strong.
Drake, Missouri St., ISU (red), Indy St. seem to comprise a pretty strong middle pack for the Valley.
 
The Valley going 5-1 today was good. Creighton lost to a good St. Joe's team. Overall this was a good day for the valley. Would have been better if Creighton won, but still not a bad overall day.
 
A few stats from games of interest last nite..

Wichita beat Utah State but looked very shaky down the stretch getting outscored in the 2nd half 56-42!!!
A little home cooking on foul differential helped...


Missouri State struggled a bit to put away UALR - Mike Bizoukas - a nice pickup for MSU - had 9 assists, Weems had 14.


WIU beat EIU in their biggest rivalry game - 64-48...and Mo goes to 4-3!!
Who'd have thunk that with all the injuries, MO would have WIU so much further along in rebuilding that EIU is at this point.
I know a few folks on local message boards have been pushing the idea that EIU is poised to break out and that they're doing great - but I think it's high time to call those assessments idioc*y and discredit those who are spinning EIU as anything other than horrible (two of EIU's wins are over lowly non-D-I's)!

UIC needed a late rally to put away visiting NIU who are 0-8!
This is only their 2nd win over a D-I - and they even lost to Quincy in a regialr season game!
I sure hope we look better than this two years into the Howard Moore rebuilding era.

Saint Louis had a scare thrown into them by visiting transitional D-II - Illinois-Springfield. SLU had to rally from behind in the 2nd half to win, and were just 4-23 from downtown. Att. was only 5K, way off from their glory years.

Cuonzo Martin's Tennessee lost to 1-9 Austin Peay!!!!! (74-70)
Tennessee message boards going ballistic -- sure by now fans figure they should hold their home floor against bad mid-majors!
Fans are beginning to bail on CM, wanting him bought out & want Bruce Pearl back!!
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=7&f=1398&t=8419016
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=7&f=1398&t=8418872
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=7&f=1398&t=8419742
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-basketball/149496-worst-loss-ut-history.html


Oakland's Reggie Hamilton had 28 and almost helped his team to an upset over Big Ten Michigan.

In Niagara's win over Hartford, Manual Ram Marvin Jordan had 20 pts, 7 asst, 6 steals, and was 6-9 from 3-pt!

Terry Johnson - hailed as the next great point guard at ISU a couple years ago - now transferred to Green Bay - is doing a bit better stat-wise than he did at ISU ..he now has his career averages up to...
3.7 ppg, 0.8 apg, and 15% on 3-pt shooting.
His backcourt mate at ISU, Justin Clark, chose going D-II to Northwest Missouri, and Clark's on an 8-0 team, but he's only 15-59 from the floor (25%), 4-20 from 3pt (20%), 5.6 ppg & 2nd on the team in turnovers

How can USC be so bad? They only scored 41 last nite - and only 15 in the first half at HOME!
Wins over Northridge and Morgan State are about all they have to boast of - and yet they have several 4-star talented players.
It is no surprise that they are drawing fewer than 3000!

UCLA isn't much better -- and they have even MORE talent on paper --
two close wins over lowly mid-majors (Pepperdine & Penn) is all they have to show for a full roster of 4-Star and 5-Star players!
 
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tornado said:
A few stats from games of interest last nite..

Wichita beat Utah State but they got outscored in the 2nd half 56-42!
A little home cooking on foul differential helped...


Missouri State struggled a bit to put away UALR - Mike Bizoukas - a nice pickup for MSU - had 9 assists, Weems had 14.


WIU beat EIU in their biggest rivalry game - 64-48...and Mo goes to 4-3!!
Who'd have thunk that with all the injuries, MO would have WIU so much further along in rebuilding that EIU is at this point.

UIC needed a late rally to put away visiting NIU who are 0-8!
This is only their 2nd win over a D-I - and they even lost to Quincy in a regular season game!

Saint Louis had a scare thrown into them by visiting transitional D-II - Illinois-Springfield. SLU had to rally from behind in the 2nd half to win, and were just 4-23 from downtown. Att. was only 5K, way off from their glory years.

Cuonzo Martin's Tennessee lost to 1-9 Austin Peay! (74-70)
Tennessee message boards going ballistic -- by now fans figure they should hold their home floor against bad mid-majors!
Fans are beginning to bail on CM, wanting him bought out.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=7&f=1398&t=8419016
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=7&f=1398&t=8418872
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=7&f=1398&t=8419742
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-basketball/149496-worst-loss-ut-history.html


Oakland's Reggie Hamilton had 28 and almost helped his team to an upset over Big Ten Michigan.

In Niagara's win over Hartford, Manual Ram Marvin Jordan had 20 pts, 7 asst, 6 steals, and was 6-9 from 3-pt!

How can USC be so bad? They only scored 41 last nite - and only 15 in the first half at HOME!
Wins over Northridge and Morgan State are about all they have to boast of - and yet they have several 4-star talented players.
It is no surprise that they are drawing fewer than 3000!

UCLA isn't much better -- and they have even more talent on paper --
two close wins over lowly mid-majors (Pepperdine & Penn) is all they have to show for a full roster of 4-Star and 5-Star players!
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Some amazing upsets this year, but that Tennessee loss to Austin Peay takes the cake!

Also, Oakland is the second team from the Summit League that almost took out Michigan this year, WIU being the other.
 
tornado said:
A few stats from games of interest last nite..

Wichita beat Utah State but they got outscored in the 2nd half 56-42!
A little home cooking on foul differential helped...
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The fouls were USU 25 to WSU 18. USU fouled several times in the last minute to try and extend the game or the discrepancy would have been even closer. Foul shots were USU 21 to WSU 28.

WSU had their leading scorer(Kyles with 18 first half points) in foul trouble not even half through the second half. Our 2 major inside players(Hall and Stutz) were also on the bench for much of the second half with 3 fouls.
 
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