Kent State University President interview - some interesting words on Geno Ford

[bradleybraves1]

Bradley hasn't refused to pay the buyout. Bradley isn't on the hook for Coach Ford's buyout. Coach Ford is the person that agreed to pay Kent money if he broke the contract. And, his contention is that he does not owe the full portion. Kent's stance is he does. The court will figure that out. But, Bradley signed nothing and owes Kent nothing. Many schools agree to help a new coach with their previous buyout as terms of their agreement with the new contract. Bradley may have told Coach Ford they would help with some portion.

You are correct bradleyfan20. We may not like the way this appears to have gone down between BU and KSU but it happens all the time in the corporate world... That's why we have lawyers. If Bradley did wrong, if Geno did wrong they will pay. Until then we can do nothing but speculate, fabricate, and spin. As a Bradley fan and grad I choose to wait, and I will support my school and team until it's been shown in a court of law that they did something wrong.

 

[Beninator]

Oh COME ON guys! Do you REALLY believe this? READ THE ARTICLE! I know you did Beni so don't go contradicting your previous post. Don't you think if he contacted his players via twitter with an "assumed name" account that they would not have "outed" Geno? You know, you guys really don't need to take KSU's side to make him feel welcome. He came here for a reason... Hit and run! I'm still AMAZED at the lack of BradleyFans that responded and stood up for their coach and team... Shameful! smh :evil:

Both posts here seem to be making more out of things than what I think is necessary. Did the article state that Geno tweeted his players? No! Is it possible that Geno has a twitter account using a pseudonym? Certainly. Given what is going on with employers etc today, it is probably a smart thing to do. To respond to your scenario, I also think that it is possible that a player (s) in the situation from last year, would want to stay out or were told to stay out of the media circus.

I'm going to tell you that this is possible only if you believe Coach Ford to be a liar.

Wow! See my first sentence above. If Geno has a twitter account with a pseudonym or any type of private setting, I doubt that anyone on this or any message board would know about it. I personally don't care if Geno has a freakin twitter account. All I want is for Geno to win games and demonstrate to me that he is worthy of the $750k/year contract.

 

[bradleyfan20]

Both posts here seem to be making more out of things than what I think is necessary. Did the article state that Geno tweeted his players? No! Is it possible that Geno has a twitter account using a pseudonym? Certainly. Given what is going on with employers etc today, it is probably a smart thing to do. To respond to your scenario, I also think that it is possible that a player (s) in the situation from last year, would want to stay out or were told to stay out of the media circus.


Wow! See my first sentence above. If Geno has a twitter account with a pseudonym or any type of private setting, I doubt that anyone on this or any message board would know about it. I personally don't care if Geno has a freakin twitter account. All I want is for Geno to win games and demonstrate to me that he is worthy of the $750k/year contract.

Please stop trying to rationalize a scenario where Coach Ford was tweeting. A couple of players from Kent State found out on Twitter after Bradley posted the announcement to their website and Jeff Goodman of CBS then tweeted the information before Coach Ford could get word back to his Kent team that was waiting to meet on that Sunday night. Coach Ford does NOT have a twitter account or a pseudonym with a twitter handle. SMH

Time will tell if it was the right hire, so no reason to debate it at this point. If in 4 more years Bradley is not in the NCAA tournament or knocking on the door, then someone else will get paid $1 million + to try and make it happen. That's how this thing works...see every other team that wants to be a major player...salaries have doubled in the past 15 years nationwide. Kent pays 300K to Coach Ford when they paid 150K to Gary Waters....

 

[bradleybraves1]

All I want is for Geno to win games and demonstrate to me that he is worthy of the $750k/year contract.

Your argument regarding Geno's "twitter account" is very weak Ben... I know you got more game than that. :wink::lol:

Regarding Geno's salary and winning we agree. If by the end of 2013-14 we don't have a team on the floor that wins more than they lose I will begin to become restless. If 2014-15 does not produce at least a top 3 finish and NIT or NCAA appearance I will be very disappointed in Geno.

 

[Old Coach]

Wow! See my first sentence above. If Geno has a twitter account with a pseudonym or any type of private setting, I doubt that anyone on this or any message board would know about it. I personally don't care if Geno has a freakin twitter account. All I want is for Geno to win games and demonstrate to me that he is worthy of the $750k/year contract.

Wow! See my post.

 

[tornado]

The actual original intent I had in starting this thread was as Da Coach said - pointing out how some folks at Kent State - in this case the President - clearly still have very emotional grudges, and that they have taken a pretty unprecedented step of going public in a media interview with it.
Coaching changes happen all the time and if this guy if so miffed about it, then he obviously loses sleep still a year later burning in anger about something that 50 schools every year go through.
It obviously shows how petty and personal the guy still feels about this and how classless he is in going public with his criticisms and slams of Geno when he knows full well that Geno will not and cannot respond.
Kent State has a fine coach, a guy who got national accolades this season - his first year as a head coach, and they didn't have a bad year at all - they won 21 games, were 10-6 in their conference, and and had the opportunity to play in the post-season!
And as I said, I also was thinking when I posted this, of certain people who treated and still are treating our last coach the same petty and classless way, when he did produce several 20 win seasons - something that that would have looked pretty good now.

 

[Beninator]

Please stop trying to rationalize a scenario where Coach Ford was tweeting. A couple of players from Kent State found out on Twitter after Bradley posted the announcement to their website and Jeff Goodman of CBS then tweeted the information before Coach Ford could get word back to his Kent team that was waiting to meet on that Sunday night. Coach Ford does NOT have a twitter account or a pseudonym with a twitter handle. SMH

Time will tell if it was the right hire, so no reason to debate it at this point. If in 4 more years Bradley is not in the NCAA tournament or knocking on the door, then someone else will get paid $1 million + to try and make it happen. That's how this thing works...see every other team that wants to be a major player...salaries have doubled in the past 15 years nationwide. Kent pays 300K to Coach Ford when they paid 150K to Gary Waters....

--and we have a coach whose salary is among the upper tier of MVC coaches with NIT experience and no NCAA tournament experience to date. SMH. I am not arguing against paying a coach that type of money, my contention is that we paid that type of salary to the wrong guy.

 

[TheAsianSensation]

At Kent St, the expectations are NCAA tournaments. It's fair to say Geno didn't get there.

Just like at Bradley, the expectations here are NCAA tournaments, too.

 

[bradleyfan20]

--and we have a coach whose salary is among the upper tier of MVC coaches with NIT experience and no NCAA tournament experience to date. SMH. I am not arguing against paying a coach that type of money, my contention is that we paid that type of salary to the wrong guy.

Excellent. I am glad you are on record after one year that we have the wrong guy. It makes it much easier for me to ignore your comments and rants about not enough baseline screens in the offense....as if you have some idea of what you are talking about. I am supporting this staff and Bradley and giving Coach Ford a chance to be successful without all of the passive aggressive comments in the process. Again, time will tell. But to make that contention now seems narrow minded.

 

[bradleybraves1]

...my contention is that we paid that type of salary to the wrong guy.

No, not your contention (I hope) but your instinct. You have a feeling that we may have overpaid for Geno but that it is yet to be determined. The hope is that by year 4 or 5 you can sit back and be thankful that we got a good coach who was able to turn our program around that we got what we paid for. As of now, that is yet to be determined.

 

[bradleyfan20]

At Kent St, the expectations are NCAA tournaments. It's fair to say Geno didn't get there.

Just like at Bradley, the expectations here are NCAA tournaments, too.

It is fair to say Geno didn't get there. It is also fair to say that Kent state has been to exactly 5 NCAA tournaments in 100 years of basketball. And, it is fair to say that half of all the MAC regular season championships, meaning 2 of the 4, were won in Geno's 3 year run.

 

[tornado]

"regular season championships" are not only overrated nowadays - they are downright irrelevant...which is why KSU didn't go to the NCAA

 

[bradleyfan20]

"regular season championships" are not only overrated nowadays - they are downright irrelevant...which is why KSU didn't go to the NCAA

Hahahahaha! Good one...

I will remember that every time people bitch that we don't even finish in the top 3 of the league. Who cares, regular season is overrated anyway. What a joke that comment is....

 

[tornado]

it was largely sarcasm -- but EVEN post season success such as a run to the Sweet Sixteen has repeatedly and endlessly been discounted as worthless and "catching lightning in a bottle"..

Some Bradley fans seem exceedingly hard to please even with 20-win seasons and a Sweet Sixteen - but some of those same fans seem awful satisfied with a 2-win league season!
Personally I am there for every game come he** or high water - that's the way loyal BU fans should be -
not trashing their team and bragging about how they "BOYCOTTED" certain games because their egos were bruised.

 

[bradleyfan20]

it was largely sarcasm -- but EVEN post season success such as a run to the Sweet Sixteen has repeatedly and endlessly been discounted as worthless and "catching lightning in a bottle"..

Some Bradley fans seem exceedingly hard to please even with 20-win seasons and a Sweet Sixteen - but some of those same fans seem awful satisfied with a 2-win league season!
Personally I am there for every game come he** or high water - that's the way loyal BU fans should be -
not trashing their team and bragging about how they "BOYCOTTED" certain games because their egos were bruised.

I have never felt like our Sweet 16 run was discounted. Facts are silly things to ignore. We were one of the final 16 teams playing for the National Title!!!!

Glad you are one of the loyal fans that won't be trashing the program and this staff.

 

[TheAsianSensation]

For the 74th billion time, 20 win seasons have no instrintic value when we get to 20 just because of the CBI or CIT. In my mind he posted 2 20-win seasons, not 4.

20 is nothing but a round, pretty number. You used to be allowed only 27 games in regular season play. Now it's 28, with multiple games in non-con tourneys allowed to be counted as a single game. The value of a 20-win season has changed in the last decade, and I'm sick and tired of people leaning on "20-win seasons" as an arbitrary benchmark.

In a different regard, people trying to diminish the sweet 16 are morons.

 

[TheAsianSensation]

It is fair to say Geno didn't get there. It is also fair to say that Kent state has been to exactly 5 NCAA tournaments in 100 years of basketball. And, it is fair to say that half of all the MAC regular season championships, meaning 2 of the 4, were won in Geno's 3 year run.

The entirety of their postseason history has been within the last 30 years, and to be honest, their resumes during my bracketology career suggest they should have more than that.

 

[Chico]

"regular season championships" are not only overrated nowadays - they are downright irrelevant...which is why KSU didn't go to the NCAA

Maybe so, but it sure makes the season more exciting.

 

[FlyingSpaghettiMonster]

:? I guess we just see things differently then Da Coach. :? I believe in confronting bully's and liars so as to expose their motives and hypocrisy. When someone blatantly attacks my friends or "family" I'll meet their fire with fire of my own. You obviously believe in turning the other cheek and that's OK... Sometimes, I wish I could, too. :|

There's a saying about arguing on the internet...

Also it seems like others made points that I would make. No need for independent repeated posts.

 

[Beninator]

Excellent. I am glad you are on record after one year that we have the wrong guy. It makes it much easier for me to ignore your comments and rants about not enough baseline screens in the offense....as if you have some idea of what you are talking about. I am supporting this staff and Bradley and giving Coach Ford a chance to be successful without all of the passive aggressive comments in the process. Again, time will tell. But to make that contention now seems narrow minded.

hmm... You must have too much time on your hands to keep track of my posts. :lol: Let's clarify a couple of things here. Yes I strongly believe that we overpaid for Geno's services. Currently I believe that we are very upside down with coaching as compared to money spent. With the type of money we were throwing around for a coach last year, we should, IMHO, have been able to hire a more established coach. Instead, we paid really good money for potential. Like most posters on this board, I believe that we need to give Geno and his staff 3-4 years to see what he can do with the team. At the beginning of last season, I wasn't expecting much in terms of the win-loss record, and I wanted to be impressed with this staff. To date, it is not a shocker to say that I am not impressed. For the upcoming season, I am wiping the slate clean and want to see what Geno and staff can do with some of his players in place. Believe it or not, I WANT Geno to change my initial impressions. I personally have set the bar very low and have written off next season from a win-loss standpoint while waiting to see what year three will bring. I want to see player development and a coach who utilizes strategies that fit his team. As for your narrow minded comment, keep in mind that I wanted to hear what KSUFan had to say, and I was among the first posters on the board to discredit his assumptions from the links he provided regarding Geno tweeting his KSU players. (while also stating that nobody here really knows for certain if Geno has a twitter account or not--who cares--)
Until next time...