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tornado said:
I guess I will wait & see and remain a bit skeptical he'll make much difference....
They already have Rayvonte Rice and other 2-guards coming in...and the Illini thought Marcus Arnold was going to play at their level...

anyway - what's "high efficiency"...personally I wouldn't consider a player who takes 10 shots a game to score 12 pts...turns it over 3 times a game, and for a shooting guard to only get to the FT 3 times a game, virtually never gets a steal, a block, or even a rebound.
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6-6 12 points

6-10 12 points

60%
 
Hmm... which player is more efficient...

Player A- 6-4 SG who helped his team to the TOP 10 in the nation's best conference, shot 48% from 3-pt, 46% overall, has a 1.3 A/T Ratio, scored 14 pts/per 40 minutes played and avg 1.5 pts/shot taken

Player B- 6-3 SG who helped his team to next-to-LAST place in a weaker conference, shot 40% from 3-pt, 43% overall, has a 1.1 A/T Ratio, scored 14 pts/per 40 minutes played and avg 1.3 pts/shot taken

In just about every regard Player A is better than Player B - but we just had folks claiming A wasn't even a D-I caliber player while B is a hot commodity....go figure...
 
tornado said:
Hmm... which player is more efficient...

Player A- 6-4 SG who helped his team to the TOP 10 in the nation's best conference, shot 48% from 3-pt, 46% overall, has a 1.3 A/T Ratio, scored 14 pts/per 40 minutes played and avg 1.5 pts/shot taken

Player B- 6-3 SG who helped his team to next-to-LAST place in a weaker conference, shot 40% from 3-pt, 43% overall, has a 1.1 A/T Ratio, scored 14 pts/per 40 minutes played and avg 1.3 pts/shot taken

In just about every regard Player A is better than Player B - but we just had folks claiming A wasn't even a D-I caliber player while B is a hot commodity....go figure...
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Well I'm not sure who player a or player b are.....but I would take Cosby over Abell any day.......

Not sure why people are so infatuated with Abell.......Cosby may be a bust too....but he played 30 minutes in a tough conference that had 2 teams in the Final Four.....so I'm not sure how much weaker it really was
 
Chico said:
That's what I thought, but the Big East didn't have 2 teams in the Final 4.
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wat?



tornado said:
Hmm... which player is more efficient...

Player A- 6-4 SG who helped his team to the TOP 10 in the nation's best conference, shot 48% from 3-pt, 46% overall, has a 1.3 A/T Ratio, scored 14 pts/per 40 minutes played and avg 1.5 pts/shot taken

Player B- 6-3 SG who helped his team to next-to-LAST place in a weaker conference, shot 40% from 3-pt, 43% overall, has a 1.1 A/T Ratio, scored 14 pts/per 40 minutes played and avg 1.3 pts/shot taken

In just about every regard Player A is better than Player B - but we just had folks claiming A wasn't even a D-I caliber player while B is a hot commodity....go figure...
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Cosby has proven himself playing 30 minutes a game and being hounded as he was arguably the 2nd best player on Seton Hall

Abell came in for small spurts and was surrounded by great players and I doubt was a defensive priority
 
tornado said:
I guess I will wait & see and remain a bit skeptical he'll make much difference....
They already have Rayvonte Rice and other 2-guards coming in...and the Illini thought Marcus Arnold was going to play at their level...

anyway - what's "high efficiency"...personally I wouldn't consider a player who takes 10 shots a game to score 12 pts...turns it over 3 times a game, and for a shooting guard to only get to the FT 3 times a game, virtually never gets a steal, a block, or even a rebound.
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I was a little off with strict "high efficiency" description. I mean he has high efficiency for someone with his usage in the 2nd toughest conference. In conference, he had an efficiency of 1.07 (simply he accounted for 1.07 points on possessions where he had the final determination), which IMO is really good for a sophomore that is taking 23% of a teams shots. Generally, as usage goes up, efficiency goes down as you have tougher shots. Basically, Cosby is like Lemmon Jr with a + 3 PT shot, and against higher competition. I think getting the 4th and 5th year of a guy like that is a major, major pickup, probably better than getting someone like Kabongo (Texas) for 2 years before he jumps to the NBA on "potential".

I like Remy a lot, and he'd be great back at Bradley. However, it's tough to compare a kid like Remy to Cosby at this point. That Indiana team had so many offensive weapons, that when Remy got a shot, he was open. Remy may turn out to be a better player than Cosby, but we know Cosby can be a very effective player on team that doesn't have help, and can create his own shots against defenses that key on him. With Remy, we know he can hit wide open shots. He can likely do much more, but that's all he's been asked to do to this point, so I'm not as confident in him as Cosby of how they'll perform when called to do more.
 
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