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Wichita writer:The Wichita State bench would finish 2nd in the MVC?

Even after the loss to Seton Hall I believe the writer might be right. Anyone looked at the Valley lately?
 
Even after the loss to Seton Hall I believe the writer might be right. Anyone looked at the Valley lately?

Ummm...yeah I have. UNI has now beat UNC and Iowa State. If you think the SHOX second team is better than the Panthers then I say you're mistaken. I'm not convinced their first team is better.
 
Ummm...yeah I have. UNI has now beat UNC and Iowa State. If you think the SHOX second team is better than the Panthers then I say you're mistaken. I'm not convinced their first team is better.

That depends on which UNI team shows up. The one that won against UNC and Iowa State? Or the one that lost to Colorado State and got stomped by New Mexico
 
That depends on which UNI team shows up. The one that won against UNC and Iowa State? Or the one that lost to Colorado State and got stomped by New Mexico

I agree with that. By the same token, it also depends if it's the WSU team that beat Utah or the one who lost to a mediocre Seton Hall team.
 
Ummm...yeah I have. UNI has now beat UNC and Iowa State. If you think the SHOX second team is better than the Panthers then I say you're mistaken. I'm not convinced their first team is better.

Where did I say that the SHOX 2nd team is better than the Panthers. Didn't the poster say that in his opinion their 2nd team would finish SECOND in the MVC?
 
I agree with that. By the same token, it also depends if it's the WSU team that beat Utah or the one who lost to a mediocre Seton Hall team.

WSU wins that match up 9 out of 10 times on a neutral floor with neutral refs. It's hard to win close games with the other team getting 21 more free throws and making 16 more free throws. Plus Seton Hall is better than the vast majority of the MVC.
 
Where did I say that the SHOX 2nd team is better than the Panthers. Didn't the poster say that in his opinion their 2nd team would finish SECOND in the MVC?

Did the writer mean Wichita starters first, second string second or did he mean the Wichita starters don't play so another team first and Wichita second string second?
 
WSU wins that match up 9 out of 10 times on a neutral floor with neutral refs. It's hard to win close games with the other team getting 21 more free throws and making 16 more free throws. Plus Seton Hall is better than the vast majority of the MVC.

crybaby............its always the refs when you lose.:roll:

Wichita is not the Wichita of recent past......get used to it (taking a few in the chops this year).
 
as weak as the Valley is, Wichita's gonna get 12-14 games as gimmes
then they will have to battle vs. UNI and a few other road opponents...
But they're NOT gonna build their RPI much in league play -- especially if they lose a couple to bottom half teams....
 
crybaby............its always the refs when you lose.:roll:

Wichita is not the Wichita of recent past......get used to it (taking a few in the chops this year).

Crybaby? Classy ... I'm assuming you didn't watch the game. If we got blown out, I'd agree with you. But an overtime game in Which the home team had THIRTEEN less fouls (only 18 in 45 minutes) and got to shoot 21 more free throws and outscored us by 16 at the line. They made 12 more free throws than WSU got to shoot. There were at least 5 offensive fouls that were phantom calls, several took points off the board for WSU.

Let's just look at the OT portion of that game. A single 5 minute period. 8 fouls were called on WSU in 5 minutes. How many on Seton Hall? Zero. Do you really think they played a perfectly clean 5 minutes and that using the same rule set WSU fouled 8 times? Seton Hall scored 13 points in OT, 11 came off made free throws from their 16 attempts. How many did WSU attempt in OT? Zero ... That is the game decider right there.

NOTE: I'm not saying WSU played perfect ... they didn't, but they win that game easily if the game is called fairly.

All of WSU's losses have been road/neutral to top 60 RPI teams with at least 1 missing key player (up to 4). Don't worry, they will still completely dominate the MVC. The only team that is even close to the teams that WSU has played so far is UNI. Now the Sycamores ... good luck. Those losses to sub RPI-250 teams look great.
 
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as weak as the Valley is, Wichita's gonna get 12-14 games as gimmes
then they will have to battle vs. UNI and a few other road opponents...
But they're NOT gonna build their RPI much in league play -- especially if they lose a couple to bottom half teams....

This is correct. Even at 5-5 though WSU still has a very very slim margin of error for an At-Large. All of their losses have been to top 60 RPI teams. The Utah win is looking really good after Utah knocked off Duke. WSU's SOS right now is Top 10 in the nation, and the selection committee is well aware of the injuries. That being said, I'd prefer they just win Arch Madness to be safe.
 
Wichita currently 4-5 for tournament purposes. Their SOS going to take a hit with their next 4 games. You're correct, they need to win conference to be safe.
 
I think what this writer maybe meant was that Wichita's 2nd string could compete with Bradley but he surely had to know that their 2nd string would not win the Valley nor would their 3rd string finish ahead of most MVC teams
 
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