California Alum
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Looks like Roy is picking up where he left off at Kansas. He gets them in the tournament then he folds. Maybe UNC will have a big come back, but I wouldn't bet on from what I'm seeing. USC is just too athletic for them.
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Roy Williams
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BradleyBrave
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Re: Roy Williams
Lotta time left, lotta talent on UNC. I wouldn't book this one for the Trojans just yet.
California Alum said:
Lotta time left, lotta talent on UNC. I wouldn't book this one for the Trojans just yet.
Lakeview Brave
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Re: Roy Williams
After he left Kansas he won a National championship.
California Alum said:
After he left Kansas he won a National championship.
MacabreMob
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I was very happy for the 05 Tarheels.
No tears for the Cryin Illini of 05.
No tears for the Cryin Illini of 05.
MacabreMob
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Just a fond reminder (excerpts from the Tarheel Message Board):
Roughly 24 hours to go.... Go Heels!
One more guys.
Welcome to The Hurt Locker Illini.
Pain. Lots and lots of pain.
It??€™s a simple game again fellas, attack in the post and we can??€™t be beat.
I hope the "brilliant" Andy Katz and the "intellectual" Clark Kellogg are picking Illinois to win like they did MSU! Seth Davis put them both to shame. Go Heels!
Good lord this is awesome.
I can't believe we've gotten to this point!! Somebody pinch me!
To go from 8-20 to a national title is the stuff of legend. With all the crap these guys have taken and all the crap that Roy has taken, it would just be unbelievable to win it all like this.
I think UNC has a higher ceiling than UI, but I think UI hits their ceiling more consistently than we do. It's like a classic boxing match up between the "boxer" and the "puncher." The boxer is consistent and racks up points on the scorecards, but the puncher is dangerous and always has the knockout punch he can deliver. No doubt we're the puncher and if we play as well as we can, then no one can stay with us, not even the Illini.
Looking more closely at this match up, I have to say that's it's a little better for us than I first thought. UI is shooting so many threes, if they're not just red-hot (which they very well could be) that means a lot of long rebounds to trigger the fast break. Also, if you'll remember the Arizona game, it was the only time the Illini had to face a tough big guy with Frye, a guy who could command a double team. Frye is very good and had his way with the UI big men, but he is certainly no Sean May. May is far more physical and every bit as skilled.
Illinois is very beatable. We have a big advantage inside with Jawad, Sean and Marvin. We MUST guard the three and limit turnovers. Arizona had Illinois beat and started rehearsing their presser a little early. We need to get a working margin and keep increasing it. 5 turns into 8 turns into 11 turns into 15. We're going to win this game.
Boom goes the dynamite. ahh
I have decided that I can deal with the fact that the 2 best teams are playing tomorrow night. The best will win. If we lose, I can accept that. I won't be happy
but I at least will know for sure who the best team is. This doesn't happen much.
Illinois is playing at home - can we win on their court?
Man this day is creeping by!!!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
What do you think the crowd percentage will be for Illinois? 70% Illini 30% UNC
11 hours
I woke this morning and the sky was Carolina blue.
8 very long short hours.
Illinois has an outstanding basketball team, and we will have to play our absolute best to win tonight.
5 Hours to go!
Butterflies, moths, and Miller Lite in my stomach now.
1 HOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20 minutes until tip!!
omg this is a road game
Holy Cow!!! Look at all that orange!!!!!!!!!
Maybe they'll wear themselves out with all that hopping.
It sounds like a gladiator dome in there. Yikes.
Can we delay the game? I'm nervous.
Game is underway!
@#%$ foul on Felton
Illinois getting away with pushing underneath... that's a shocker.
I think we're going to see a lot of runs in this game.
Amazing how much grabbing and holding Illinois does
Oy, two fouls on Felton.
This is crap. It's a f*ckin home game in every sense of it for the Illini
The refs need to stop calling the cheap fouls
Tick tack fouls on Ray and then May is allowed to go on and play tough down low, terrible officiating.
Roger Powell is killing us. He is really outworking us on the boards. Yes, it's called over the back
Funny that Ray gets called on two touch fouls and Powell is allowed to thug away...
I hope Illinois keeps flopping like on that play with May, and I hope the refs continue not to buy it.
Why don't they call the moving pick?
Powell vs. May...there??€™s no way May can be stopped
Scott takes the charge!! Two on Augustine!!
Maybe the zone will lull Illinois into some bad shots.
How the @#%$ does Illinois only have 4 fouls? We should be shooting 2 already. They aren't calling crap on them and BS touch fouls on us. That last Felton foul wasn't one.
REBOUND!!!
Roughly 24 hours to go.... Go Heels!
One more guys.
Welcome to The Hurt Locker Illini.
Pain. Lots and lots of pain.
It??€™s a simple game again fellas, attack in the post and we can??€™t be beat.
I hope the "brilliant" Andy Katz and the "intellectual" Clark Kellogg are picking Illinois to win like they did MSU! Seth Davis put them both to shame. Go Heels!
Good lord this is awesome.
I can't believe we've gotten to this point!! Somebody pinch me!
To go from 8-20 to a national title is the stuff of legend. With all the crap these guys have taken and all the crap that Roy has taken, it would just be unbelievable to win it all like this.
I think UNC has a higher ceiling than UI, but I think UI hits their ceiling more consistently than we do. It's like a classic boxing match up between the "boxer" and the "puncher." The boxer is consistent and racks up points on the scorecards, but the puncher is dangerous and always has the knockout punch he can deliver. No doubt we're the puncher and if we play as well as we can, then no one can stay with us, not even the Illini.
Looking more closely at this match up, I have to say that's it's a little better for us than I first thought. UI is shooting so many threes, if they're not just red-hot (which they very well could be) that means a lot of long rebounds to trigger the fast break. Also, if you'll remember the Arizona game, it was the only time the Illini had to face a tough big guy with Frye, a guy who could command a double team. Frye is very good and had his way with the UI big men, but he is certainly no Sean May. May is far more physical and every bit as skilled.
Illinois is very beatable. We have a big advantage inside with Jawad, Sean and Marvin. We MUST guard the three and limit turnovers. Arizona had Illinois beat and started rehearsing their presser a little early. We need to get a working margin and keep increasing it. 5 turns into 8 turns into 11 turns into 15. We're going to win this game.
Boom goes the dynamite. ahh
I have decided that I can deal with the fact that the 2 best teams are playing tomorrow night. The best will win. If we lose, I can accept that. I won't be happy
but I at least will know for sure who the best team is. This doesn't happen much.
Illinois is playing at home - can we win on their court?
Man this day is creeping by!!!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
What do you think the crowd percentage will be for Illinois? 70% Illini 30% UNC
11 hours
I woke this morning and the sky was Carolina blue.
8 very long short hours.
Illinois has an outstanding basketball team, and we will have to play our absolute best to win tonight.
5 Hours to go!
Butterflies, moths, and Miller Lite in my stomach now.
1 HOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20 minutes until tip!!
omg this is a road game
Holy Cow!!! Look at all that orange!!!!!!!!!
Maybe they'll wear themselves out with all that hopping.
It sounds like a gladiator dome in there. Yikes.
Can we delay the game? I'm nervous.
Game is underway!
@#%$ foul on Felton
Illinois getting away with pushing underneath... that's a shocker.
I think we're going to see a lot of runs in this game.
Amazing how much grabbing and holding Illinois does
Oy, two fouls on Felton.
This is crap. It's a f*ckin home game in every sense of it for the Illini
The refs need to stop calling the cheap fouls
Tick tack fouls on Ray and then May is allowed to go on and play tough down low, terrible officiating.
Roger Powell is killing us. He is really outworking us on the boards. Yes, it's called over the back
Funny that Ray gets called on two touch fouls and Powell is allowed to thug away...
I hope Illinois keeps flopping like on that play with May, and I hope the refs continue not to buy it.
Why don't they call the moving pick?
Powell vs. May...there??€™s no way May can be stopped
Scott takes the charge!! Two on Augustine!!
Maybe the zone will lull Illinois into some bad shots.
How the @#%$ does Illinois only have 4 fouls? We should be shooting 2 already. They aren't calling crap on them and BS touch fouls on us. That last Felton foul wasn't one.
REBOUND!!!
California Alum
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Boy did I shoot my mouth off too soon!!
BI_Brave_alum
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boy Floyd really blew that one! usc just choke..
BradleyBrave
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BI_Brave_alum said:
Floyd seemed to think he was back in the NBA. He didn't really seem to want to call any timeouts to stop UNC's 20-3 run.
He was right about that screen though. There's no traveling called at the end of one game (which Packer said was OK), then there's 2 ticky-tack illegal screens called on USC in critical moments of the 2nd half. Par for the course. This is the worst tournament I can remember.
IlliBraves
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MDCowboy said:
I don't care how much you dislike the Illini. You can't tell me that that game was officiated fairly. It was called so poorly that it cost the Illini a national championship, which was handed to a bunch of penal league thugs.
MacabreMob
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IlliBraves said:
LOL! IlliB, you are killing me man. I am letting out large belly laughs.
Now listen... wash down 2 bitter pills with a glass of hater-aide. If you don't feel any better in the morning, call Whiny Williams (Maryland) or Boo-hoo Boeheim for some consultation.
California Alum
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Well, it looks like I was one game off. Roy did this 'el foldo' stunt all the time at Kansas, however, the press never comments on it. His teams fold like cheap suits. I know he won a national championship at UNC, but it was with MD kids. He has proven he's not a good 'big game' coach in my opinion.
Braves4Life
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Carolina
Carolina
Wow! You must really dislike Ol' Roy. What has he done to make you so bitter? It seems to me it would be more difficult to win with someone else's recruits: You either have to make them adjust to your coaching style, or you must adjust your coaching style to them (ala Jim Les).
As an impartial and in-state observer I can assure you that Roy Williams has restored all of the old Dean Smith glory back to Carolina. Roy has always seemed to be a classy, sincere, and gracious man (even in defeat -- unlike another of our in-state coaches). Before you go painting me Carolina Blue let me say that I am really not a Carolina fan -- just someone who enjoys good basketball. Out here I usually pull for Wake or NC State -- I've always had an affinity for the underdog.
And, regarding IB's penal league thug crack. Show me evidence where any of those players had or have a criminal record. I was rooting for the Illini too. Unfortunately, they just got beat by a better team with a better coach!
Carolina
California Alum said:
Wow! You must really dislike Ol' Roy. What has he done to make you so bitter? It seems to me it would be more difficult to win with someone else's recruits: You either have to make them adjust to your coaching style, or you must adjust your coaching style to them (ala Jim Les).
As an impartial and in-state observer I can assure you that Roy Williams has restored all of the old Dean Smith glory back to Carolina. Roy has always seemed to be a classy, sincere, and gracious man (even in defeat -- unlike another of our in-state coaches). Before you go painting me Carolina Blue let me say that I am really not a Carolina fan -- just someone who enjoys good basketball. Out here I usually pull for Wake or NC State -- I've always had an affinity for the underdog.
And, regarding IB's penal league thug crack. Show me evidence where any of those players had or have a criminal record. I was rooting for the Illini too. Unfortunately, they just got beat by a better team with a better coach!