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Duke Deen is in the Portal

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yoda

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IMG_3976.jpg There were hundreds of last day entrants into the portal, and Duke Deen’s name now appears. Prob hedging so if the rules change he still has the option of playing.
 
Read on a previous post that Duke Deen has an agreement on a overseas deal to play basketball. If that is the case how then can he play college basketball. If my understanding is correct, once you sign a pro deal you are no longer eligible to play college basketball again. Or maybe the deal we have heard about did not pan out. Anybody know what the facts are concerning this.:?:
 
Makes zero sense. Why even bother if you have no eligibility? The NCAA is a shit show of the highest level. I hear there are a number of players with zero eligibility throwing their names in the portal. Stupid
 
Players are declaring because there are rumors that after the House settlement, the NCAA may grant players 5 years to play as a way of trying to handle the weird transfer rules. Just easier to declare 5 years to play for everyone. Not saying I agree, but that is their logic.

For players out of eligibility, if they declare they can have schools bidding on them. For many of these players, they could make big money for 1 more year. It might be more money than they will earn for a long, long time. So they are entering and hoping. There is no harm if they don't get the extra 5th year. But it could lead to big rewards for them. Of course, not sure what schools will have money left in NIL. But it probably is worth the risk, which costs the player nothing.
 
MDCowboy said:
Players are declaring because there are rumors that after the House settlement, the NCAA may grant players 5 years to play as a way of trying to handle the weird transfer rules. Just easier to declare 5 years to play for everyone. Not saying I agree, but that is their logic.

For players out of eligibility, if they declare they can have schools bidding on them. For many of these players, they could make big money for 1 more year. It might be more money than they will earn for a long, long time. So they are entering and hoping. There is no harm if they don't get the extra 5th year. But it could lead to big rewards for them. Of course, not sure what schools will have money left in NIL. But it probably is worth the risk, which costs the player nothing.
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This. Its the wild west, of course players are going to do anything and everything they can to get the most options and money possible, even if it seems like there is no chance. Things are changing faster than we can grasp in this sport.
 
players are allowed to have agents and Duke has never yet played professionally nor been paid so I think he will claim he still has eligibility


btw- answer to the trivia question about Commits and the dates they committed:

Spring commits for 2023
1/13/2023 Demarion Burch - true freshman
4/14/2023 Almar Atlason - transf after 2 seasons, 366 career pts
4/15/2023 Kyle Thomas- transfer from EIU, then left after one year & transferred to SIUE
4/15/2023 Trey Pettigrew- transfer from Nevada, left before playing a game, transfer to Eastern Michigan
4/20/2023 Emarion Ellis- transfer from Marquette, left the team midseason, transfer to Nicholls State (LA)​

Spring commits for 2024
4/05/2024 Connor Dillon, grad transfer from Winona State
4/09/2024 Zek Montgomery re-commit, transf back from URI, 726 BU pts
4/13/2024 Corey Thomas, juco transfer from Cowley County CC
5/14/2024 Gus Rugaard, walk on from Morton​
 
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yoda said:
players are allowed to have agents and Duke has never yet played professionally nor been paid so I think he will claim he still has eligibility
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Duke actually did sign a professional contract with the German pro team, the Freeport Skyliners. However he did not play in any games and left and returned to the United States.
 
So if I understand it if Duke did not play professionally, I thereby assume he did not get paid any money. If rules allow wonder if Wardle would want him to come back if he so chooses to do so.
 
So here’s one to chew on. How long before some college grad signs with an NBA team, plays a year and gets cut, then comes back to play a final year of college?

sounds silly doesn’t it? But as messed up as things are, I wouldn’t put it past a lawyer to dream up.
 
I like your thinking. Potentially, a player could make more money in college than playing in the NBA. More opportunities for agents/attorneys.
 
Bradley8792 said:
So here’s one to chew on. How long before some college grad signs with an NBA team, plays a year and gets cut, then comes back to play a final year of college?

sounds silly doesn’t it? But as messed up as things are, I wouldn’t put it past a lawyer to dream up.
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I find this to be a distinct prediction of something that may happen relatively soon. Someone will challenge the NCAA on the eligibility rules and get an indefinite ability to play college ball. How many players would love to play and make $2-$3MM a year in NIL when they have very marginal NBA options? This is the direction things are going.
 
Stryker said:
I find this to be a distinct prediction of something that may happen relatively soon. Someone will challenge the NCAA on the eligibility rules and get an indefinite ability to play college ball. How many players would love to play and make $2-$3MM a year in NIL when they have very marginal NBA options? This is the direction things are going.
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I think the laws of supply and demand will come into play.

With a bigger supply of capable players (due to extended eligibility), the demand for players will go down. I think also the overall interest in college sports may start to wane if eligibility gets extended indefinitely. College sports in the US are very popular due to people connection to the schools. Once you start really separating sports from the schools, then the sports become just another minor league.
 
BUfan17 said:
I think the laws of supply and demand will come into play.

With a bigger supply of capable players (due to extended eligibility), the demand for players will go down. I think also the overall interest in college sports may start to wane if eligibility gets extended indefinitely. College sports in the US are very popular due to people connection to the schools. Once you start really separating sports from the schools, then the sports become just another minor league.
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Don't disagree, but doesn't mean it won't or can't happen. Plenty of things have been hollowed out and made into entirely inferior things over the past century.
 
BUfan17 said:
I think the laws of supply and demand will come into play.

With a bigger supply of capable players (due to extended eligibility), the demand for players will go down. I think also the overall interest in college sports may start to wane if eligibility gets extended indefinitely. College sports in the US are very popular due to people connection to the schools. Once you start really separating sports from the schools, then the sports become just another minor league.
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I think it will trend towards the European systems- where the top tier are all well paid players.
The 2nd tier will be mid-majors that can pay some good players, then a 3rd and even a 4th tier with some DII’s joining the lower tiers.
Many schools will fail, some will drop sports.
Rules will change constantly but fans will some day dry up just like they’re doing on overpaid pro tennis, men’s pro soccer in the US, and even MLB.
 
Da Coach said:
Duke actually did sign a professional contract with the German pro team, the Freeport Skyliners. However he did not play in any games and left and returned to the United States.
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Do you have any details relating to Duke's experiences with the Freeport Skyliners?
 
All we know is that he went to Frankfurt, Germany, to join the Fraport Skyliners for their last few games of the 2024-25 season. They are not going to qualify for postseason playoffs in their BBL league (they are 16th in a 17-team league), so their season will end with their final game May 11. He was with the team for 2 games, but did not play. There was something that caused him to leave abruptly and return to the US. There is no word whether it was a personal or family issue, or an issue related to his team or contract.
 
Perhaps he became aware that he still might qualify for an extra year via an upcoming NCAA ruling but playing professionally could void that
 
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