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I'm not knocking DC for his TO's as I mentioned in the gameday thread that most of his TO's today were lazy passes after getting a rebound. Those are easily preventable, he has incredible talent for our needs that brings back POB memories.

Jason
 
jasonpeoria911 said:
How does Collins not lead the Turnover department, 7 TO's today Egaddddsss LOL. He's a force otherwide, 14 points and 10 boards on only 3 shots taken. Can't wait for him to be a full time player.

Jason
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I thought about showing the most turnovers, but do not feel like showing the negatives. If that were the case, then I'd show who scores the least amount of points for their time on the floor, etc.

I thought it was in the best interest of everyone if I stuck with the positives here.
 
Fixed to add Austin.

After 3 games:

Points
26.7 - Rashad Austin
24.7 - Sam Singh
22.6 - David Collins
21.5 - Andrew Warren
20.7 - Daniel Ruffin

Rebounds
19.5 - David Collins
10.6 - Sam Singh
9.6 - Will Egolf
9.0 - Theron Wilson
8.3 - Matt Salley

Assists
10.8 - Daniel Ruffin
4.7 - Sam Maniscalco
3.6 - Jeremy Crouch
3.5 - Sam Singh
2.6 - Theron Wilson

Turnovers
2.0 - Andrew Warren
2.3 - Jeremy Crouch
2.4 - Sam Maniscalco
2.4 - Sam Singh
3.2 - Will Egolf

Blocks
2.4 - Sam Singh
1.8 - Matt Salley
1.6 - Will Egolf
1.0 - David Collins
0.7 - Theron Wilson

Steals
3.2 - Will Egolf
3.0 - Daniel Ruffin
2.4 - Matt Salley
2.3 - Jeremy Crouch
2.0 - Andrew Warren
 
After 4 games:

Points
26.7 - Rashad Austin
24.2 - Sam Singh
22.8 - David Collins
21.0 - Daniel Ruffin
20.0 - Andrew Warren

Rebounds
18.8 - David Collins
11.6 - Will Egolf
11.6 - Sam Singh
9.9 - Theron Wilson
8.8 - Matt Salley

Assists
10.2 - Daniel Ruffin
7.3 - Sam Maniscalco
3.5 - Jeremy Crouch
3.2 - Sam Singh
2.7 - Theron Wilson

Turnovers
2.1 - Sam Singh
2.2 - Andrew Warren
2.4 - Sam Maniscalco
3.5 - Jeremy Crouch

Blocks
3.5 - Matt Salley
2.4 - David Collins
2.1 - Will Egolf
2.1 - Sam Singh

Steals
4.2 - Will Egolf
2.6 - Daniel Ruffin
2.2 - Jeremy Crouch
2.2 - Matt Salley
2.2 - Andrew Warren
 
David Collins is the 4th leading scorer, and leading rebounder on the team, despite playing only 12.8 mpg. The numbers per 40 minutes are even more telling. What in the heck does this guy have to do to play? Jim is constantly singing his praises, yet continues to slight him on minutes. DC not playing is hurting this team.
 
Collins has picked up up some silly and untimely fouls, so the coach has probably used that in judging playing time.
 
To me it was the lazy outlet pass turnovers (man that's a lot of adjectives) which he cleaned up nicely last game. He was noticeably more aware of where everyone was and his passes were on the mark. I think Matt Salley's great game may have limited his minutes as it did Sam Singh's.
 
tornado said:
Collins has picked up up some silly and untimely fouls, so the coach has probably used that in judging playing time.
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Turnovers and fouls are keeping him out right now. I do think he will get more time as the season progresses. Right now we have only one loss....would the UIC game have been different had he got more minutes...I dunno.

JL is bringing him along slowly...granted to slow for some but I gotta trust JL on this.

The NEXT step in Collins progression is a mean streak. He still rebounds and is soft with the ball. Grab it and either keep it up high or pull it down and smother it. Theron Wilson does this quite well.....he skys for the ball and when he hits the floor you'd have to use a pry bar to get it released.
 
Mike Radigan said:
To me it was the lazy outlet pass turnovers (man that's a lot of adjectives) which he cleaned up nicely last game. He was noticeably more aware of where everyone was and his passes were on the mark. I think Matt Salley's great game may have limited his minutes as it did Sam Singh's.
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Why should Matt Salley's play have anything to do with David Collins? Why can't we have them both on the floor at the same time, especially when our guards are throwing the ball all over the gymnasium? :confused:
 
dogsrus said:
The NEXT step in Collins progression is a mean streak. He still rebounds and is soft with the ball. Grab it and either keep it up high or pull it down and smother it. Theron Wilson does this quite well.....he skys for the ball and when he hits the floor you'd have to use a pry bar to get it released.
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Agreed. And I think Egolf goes up strong/long for a rebound and brings it down strong.

It is so early... I take the bad with the good.... I love what I see along with love the potential.

I hope/think everyone will continue to gel and get better.

I'd rather win a war than a battle... ie, do well over the season and into postseason than win a certain game or two. (beating Mich St but finishing 10-20 on the season would be a disappointment to me)
 
MR, I don't ever remember Salley having a great game. Good maybe, yes. Nothing but a layup Matt, don't even try anything over 5 feet.
 
I wonder if there is enough statistical information to do a plus or minus like they do in hockey so we can see who is also playing D or maybe we could do it by position.
 
I think I remember seeing Collins had 2 blocks in half of Salleys time. Just think, 10 blocks between the 2 if both played at same time. They would be a force down low.

Jason
 
I've got a new one to add. This one is simply the total number of minutes a player has played divided by the total number of personal fouls they have committed.

Minutes/Foul
25.0 - Jeremy Crouch
17.4 - Daniel Ruffin
15.0 - Tyrone Cole-Scott
9.9 - Theron Wilson
9.8 - Andrew Warren
 
(minimum of at least a total of 40 minutes played)

After 5 games:

Points
23.7 - Sam Singh
22.3 - Daniel Ruffin
21.2 - David Collins
17.5 - Andrew Warren
15.7 - Jeremy Crouch

Rebounds
16.4 - David Collins
11.4 - Theron Wilson
10.6 - Sam Singh
10.2 - Will Egolf
8.4 - Matt Salley

Assists
9.6 - Daniel Ruffin
6.2 - Sam Maniscalco
3.7 - Jeremy Crouch
2.8 - Theron Wilson
2.5 - Sam Singh

Turnovers
2.1 - Sam Maniscalco
2.5 - Sam Singh
3.0 - Jeremy Crouch
3.0 - Andrew Warren
3.1 - Theron Wilson

Blocks
2.9 - Matt Salley
2.4 - David Collins
1.7 - Will Egolf
1.6 - Sam Singh

Steals
4.3 - Will Egolf
3.3 - Daniel Ruffin
2.4 - Theron Wilson
2.2 - Matt Salley
1.8 - Andrew Warren

Minutes/Foul
26.8 - Jeremy Crouch
22.6 - Daniel Ruffin
11.7 - Tyrone Cole-Scott
11.6 - Theron Wilson
11.3 - Andrew Warren
 
(minimum of 40 minutes played)

After 6 games:

Points
22.9 - Daniel Ruffin
21.5 - Sam Singh
19.3 - David Collins
19.0 - Andrew Warren
15.1 - Will Egolf

Rebounds
15.4 - David Collins
11.1 - Theron Wilson
10.6 - Will Egolf
10.4 - Sam Singh
7.4 - Matt Salley

Assists
9.1 - Daniel Ruffin
5.9 - Sam Maniscalco
3.7 - Jeremy Crouch
3.1 - Theron Wilson
2.2 - Sam Singh

Turnovers
2.2 - Sam Singh
2.3 - Sam Maniscalco
3.0 - Will Egolf
3.0 - Andrew Warren
3.1 - Theron Wilson

Blocks
2.9 - David Collins
2.4 - Matt Salley
1.5 - Will Egolf
1.5 - Sam Singh

Steals
4.5 - Will Egolf
3.3 - Daniel Ruffin
2.0 - Theron Wilson
1.8 - Matt Salley
1.7 - Andrew Warren

Minutes/Foul
24.4 - Jeremy Crouch
21.6 - Daniel Ruffin
10.3 - Tyrone Cole-Scott
10.1 - Theron Wilson
9.5 - Andrew Warren
 
(minimum of 40 minutes played)

After 7 games:

Points
21.1 - Sam Singh
21.0 - Daniel Ruffin
19.0 - David Collins
17.3 - Andrew Warren
16.2 - Jeremy Crouch

Rebounds
13.6 - David Collins
10.9 - Theron Wilson
10.2 - Sam Singh
10.0 - Will Egolf
7.7 - Matt Salley

Assists
8.7 - Daniel Ruffin
5.5 - Sam Maniscalco
3.7 - Jeremy Crouch
3.3 - Theron Wilson
2.2 - Sam Singh

Turnovers
2.4 - Sam Maniscalco
2.7 - Will Egolf
2.9 - Sam Singh
3.0 - Theron Wilson
3.1 - Andrew Warren

Blocks
2.9 - David Collins
2.0 - Matt Salley
1.5 - Sam Singh
1.3 - Will Egolf

Steals
4.0 - Will Egolf
2.9 - Daniel Ruffin
2.1 - Andrew Warren
2.0 - Sam Maniscalco
1.9 - Theron Wilson

Minutes/Foul
21.0 - Daniel Ruffin
20.8 - Jeremy Crouch
11.0 - Tyrone Cole-Scott
10.8 - Andrew Warren
10.8 - Theron Wilson
 
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