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Yeldarb10 said:
There was a thread on this board that SAID who they wouldve wanted in the game and what they would have done had they have been the coach...but yeah no one is saying they could do a better job? Second guessing a highly qualified coach IS in essence saying you can do a better job.

Voice an opinion...yes...but consistantly critize the coaching is absurd and pointless. Just because you watch this team play twice a week for 3 hours each week doesn't mean you know even half of what you think you know about the team!!!
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Hey 10 you have another good post and it was a previous post that ypu started that made me start this very one.
In doing so I wasn't trying to make a mockery of the coaching situation but trying to have a little fun which many have seemingly taken in stride and I, personally, have had some real good laughs from some of the posts here. Others seem offended by this and I really beleive some of them are being most critical of the staff.
As I said in another post they only coach and draw up the play, they do not execute the play. I was talking to a retired referee this morning about that very thing and he mentioned how, as a ref, he would see a play drawn up by the coach and think how great of an idea but then the players went the wrong direction or threw the ball to the wrong person.
My point for all of more serious ones on this board is there is only so much that the staff can do and then the players have to take over. If they do it right the staff looks like they are geniouses and if they do it wrong the staff are the worst decision makers possible.
 
Yeldarb10 said:
Second guessing a highly qualified coach IS in essence saying you can do a better job.
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Umm...no, it isn't.
If anyone on this board honestly thinks they could coach this team better than Les, they are wrong and completely delusional. It is however, a valid reaction for them to look at a team that is underachieving and play the 'what if' game to develop their own theories as to why things aren't going as planned. If this guy played more, if this guy played less, if we did more of this, less of that, etc. They're just opinions, ways to vent their frustrations...not statements of their belief that they are the next coming of Coach K.
 
basketball nut said:
Hey 10 you have another good post and it was a previous post that ypu started that made me start this very one.
In doing so I wasn't trying to make a mockery of the coaching situation but trying to have a little fun which many have seemingly taken in stride and I, personally, have had some real good laughs from some of the posts here. Others seem offended by this and I really beleive some of them are being most critical of the staff.
As I said in another post they only coach and draw up the play, they do not execute the play. I was talking to a retired referee this morning about that very thing and he mentioned how, as a ref, he would see a play drawn up by the coach and think how great of an idea but then the players went the wrong direction or threw the ball to the wrong person.
My point for all of more serious ones on this board is there is only so much that the staff can do and then the players have to take over. If they do it right the staff looks like they are geniouses and if they do it wrong the staff are the worst decision makers possible.
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BNut this reminds me of the time we were playing UAB at home and Bartow the kid was their coach. I was sitting in the seat directly behind the bench even with the coaches, they had a guy who shot it seemed every single time he had his hands on the ball. Well during a timeout, in no uncertain terms Bartow told this player, "do not shoot the ball again"

They inbounded the ball past mid court, second pass went to this player coming across the top of the key going from his right to left, what did he do as soon as he touched the ball? It went straight up for a miss.

Messages do sometimes get lost in translation :)
 
Yeldarb10 said:
There was a thread on this board that SAID who they wouldve wanted in the game and what they would have done had they have been the coach...but yeah no one is saying they could do a better job? Second guessing a highly qualified coach IS in essence saying you can do a better job.

Voice an opinion...yes...but consistantly critize the coaching is absurd and pointless. Just because you watch this team play twice a week for 3 hours each week doesn't mean you know even half of what you think you know about the team!!!
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OK, so we can voice an opinion as long as it's positive about the coach? We can't voice a negative opinion because then we're saying we can coach better than the coach?
 
basketball nut said:
...As I said in another post they only coach and draw up the play, they do not execute the play. I was talking to a retired referee this morning about that very thing and he mentioned how, as a ref, he would see a play drawn up by the coach and think how great of an idea but then the players went the wrong direction or threw the ball to the wrong person.
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I have a close friend who played for Milliken years ago... and asked him about this many times.

Same response basically. Coach's "designed play" gets botched for 1 reason or another and players improvised ALL THE TIME. (I am not saying Bradley and Milliken are the same - I am saying... players react in live games and make live decisions that stray from the set play). And maybe this is part of Bradley's problem which can be 2-fold... 1 - Ruffin would be the decision maker that everyone followed, and 2 - so many new players trying to adapt to one another as well as the high level of Div 1 play.

Funny.... if BU eeks out the win over Drake... are we discussing any of this?

The sky is not falling.

Sit back - YES! - SIT BACK!!!.... and enjoy watching Bradley Basketball and these fine young men grow before your very eyes at a top level of competition.
 
MacabreMob said:
I have a close friend who played for Milliken years ago... and asked him about this many times.

Same response basically. Coach's "designed play" gets botched for 1 reason or another and players improvised ALL THE TIME. (I am not saying Bradley and Milliken are the same - I am saying... players react in live games and make live decisions that stray from the set play). And maybe this is part of Bradley's problem which can be 2-fold... 1 - Ruffin would be the decision maker that everyone followed, and 2 - so many new players trying to adapt to one another as well as the high level of Div 1 play.

Funny.... if BU eeks out the win over Drake... are we discussing any of this?

The sky is not falling.

Sit back - YES! - SIT BACK!!!.... and enjoy watching Bradley Basketball and these fine young men grow before your very eyes at a top level of competition.
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Finally someone who understands-I love it-you are so right if they win JL would have just done masterful job of coaching
 
basketball nut said:
Finally someone who understands-I love it-you are so right if they win JL would have just done masterful job of coaching
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If we look back at posts from last year, I am sure that there were a lot
of comments about how well coached we were.... The strength of this team is with the YOUNG players.
 
real fan said:
So you are saying that it is the players fault as they are not doing what they are told .
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Sometimes the players have every intention of doing what the coach tells them to do but the other team "takes away" what they are trying to accomplish......it's a constant game of adjustments....I think BU needs to do a better job of making these adjustments.
 
ER3 you are 100% right in the staff makes a lot of money and it is their job to make changes, adjustments, or whatever else it takes to win games and none of us have said that we could do a better job ; we just expected them to do one because they are the ones that said this team had the most talent of any team so far since I have been here ; if you don"t have ideas on how to make changes and that things are ok like they are ,then you probably do not care as much as the rest of us do about winning .
 
basketball nut said:
Finally someone who understands-I love it-you are so right if they win JL would have just done masterful job of coaching
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Someone who finally understands what?:confused:
If we win that Drake game, I would have been incredibly happy that we were able to pull out an ugly win against a quality opponent. I would have been extremely happy for Maniscalco as he would have single-handedly bailed out Theron and the coaching staff and stolen a win for BU.
But to say that the win would have been due to the fact that Les did a 'masterful job of coaching' would have been a laughable statement.
We had a 7 point lead with 3:30 to go in the game...then we got pressed and had no answer for it on three separate occasions...We gave up an uncontested layup on an inbounds pass under Drake's basket...three turnovers and a complete breakdown on defense and that lead was gone in the blink of an eye.
You can contend that Les and his staff drew up unbelievably perfect plays to beat Drake's press, and it was the players' faults for not executing them properly...but it didn't appear that way to me. I'll just say that sitting there in Carver watching BU implode and give away a 7 point lead in embarrassing fashion late in that game...my one thought was, this does not look like a team that was very well-prepared for the adjustments Drake made in the last 3:30 of the game...
SM almost bailed them out, and I would most certainly have been on the board signing the praises of our freshman point guard after the game...but no, I would not have been in agreement with anyone that tried to say that Les did a 'masterful job' of coaching in that game.
 
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