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PJ Star articles 2/24

thanks for the article.......I agree with everything said and that answered my question to why KW didn't have an article in the PJS today about the game and the DR situation!
 
I just read the Wessler blog, and it doesn't really say anything! It just restates the obvious scenarios that could play out. With all the resources the PJS has, couldn't they actually give us some information about the case? Anything? Maybe a call to the States Attorney, maybe find out when Daniel will appear before a judge?

In fact, even the articles that appeared in the newspaper do not say when his next court appearance will be. That shouldn't be too hard to find out, isn't it a matter of public record?
 
Interesting comment by the student at the bottom of the article. I wonder how many students they had to interview before they got that gem. I also wonder if this person knows that a BU player lost his scholarship for something that a normal student wouldn't even be punished for (Ray Brown was kicked off the team for failing 2 drug tests, he was never arrested), and 2 other players (Wilson and Cole-Scott) are 1 screw-up away from being booted from the team, when a normal student would only have to pay the zero tolerance fine and only deal with whatever punishment the law handed down. I am guessing that person who made those comments isn't a supporter of BU athletics.
 
KW's blog did not say much because at this time it is the most appropriate tack to take. I agree with his blog because he did not get into speculation like some of us have.
 
I think KW has stopped writing about BU. Greg Stewart wrote the artcle today, and KW hasn't had anything except blogs for awhile. Whether he chose to stop writing about BU or if he was told to, it was obvious that he had lost any shred of objectivity when evaluating Les. He should stick with zamboni stories and human interest stuff. He's much more readable when I don't care much about the topic. Hopefully Reynolds and Stewart will finish out the season as BU beat guys.

As for his blog, it didn't say much that we didn't know, but it was responsible writing and he was fair to all involved.
 
Da Coach said:
In fact, even the articles that appeared in the newspaper do not say when his next court appearance will be. That shouldn't be too hard to find out, isn't it a matter of public record?
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From PJStar story:

"Further details of the incident were unavailable from Peoria police, who referred inquiries to the university."

"Police then went to Ruffin's residence and, after questioning, placed him under arrest and took him to the jail. He was expected to remain there overnight Saturday until a Peoria County assistant state's attorney could review his case to determine if he could be released on a notice to appear in court."
 
BradleyBrave said:
Interesting comment by the student at the bottom of the article. I wonder how many students they had to interview before they got that gem. I also wonder if this person knows that a BU player lost his scholarship for something that a normal student wouldn't even be punished for (Ray Brown was kicked off the team for failing 2 drug tests, he was never arrested), and 2 other players (Wilson and Cole-Scott) are 1 screw-up away from being booted from the team, when a normal student would only have to pay the zero tolerance fine and only deal with whatever punishment the law handed down. I am guessing that person who made those comments isn't a supporter of BU athletics.
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Those are valid points, BB. But a "normal" student also is not a public figure, part of 15 of the most visible people in this town and this university. Most normal students don't have their tuition and room and board paid for and don't play in front of 10,000-plus people 15 times a year.

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Wow, that comment, uh, perhaps he/she should not have publicly named the accuser. No?
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The accuser was already named in the story. And I know of at least one other media outlet that used her name before the PJS did. When this broke yesterday her name wasn't mentioned by the PJS. Why they decided to change, I'm not sure. Likely because they found out someone else had.
 
Scouter said:
Those are valid points, BB. But a "normal" student also is not a public figure, part of 15 of the most visible people in this town and this university. Most normal students don't have their tuition and room and board paid for and don't play in front of 10,000-plus people 15 times a year.
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I never implied that the players were 'normal' students. Rather, I was referring to this person's comments about athletes getting away with murder. Perhaps that is what occurs at other schools, but I think we've seen in the past year from a prank gone wrong with the soccer team to these incidents with the basketball team, that athletes do not get away with such things. One basketball player lost his scholarship, three young men are going to serve prison time because of a prank gone wrong, 2 basketball players are on athletic probation, and 1 player had to spend a day in jail for something that may turn out to be nothing. Quite frankly, that person's statement is nothing short of ignorant.
 
Scouter said:
From PJStar story:

"Further details of the incident were unavailable from Peoria police, who referred inquiries to the university."

"Police then went to Ruffin's residence and, after questioning, placed him under arrest and took him to the jail. He was expected to remain there overnight Saturday until a Peoria County assistant state's attorney could review his case to determine if he could be released on a notice to appear in court."
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Scouter, this does not answer the simple question that I believe there is an answer to that the reporters never sought out.

This statement you posted suggests that Daniel could languish in a prison cell indefinitely at the mercy of the state's attorney. And it says that the state's attorney could review the case and might decide to release him with a notice to appear in court sometime in the future.

But even I was told that the jail does have a bond court on Saturdays and Sundays. And that Daniel's attorneys could ask to go before the judge this morning and ask for bond, and possibly be released, regardless of what the state's attorney decides.
 
Da Coach said:
Scouter, this does not answer the simple question that I believe there is an answer to that the reporters never sought out.

This statement you posted suggests that Daniel could languish in a prison cell indefinitely at the mercy of the state's attorney. And it says that the state's attorney could review the case and might decide to release him with a notice to appear in court sometime in the future.

But even I was told that the jail does have a bond court on Saturdays and Sundays. And that Daniel's attorneys could ask to go before the judge this morning and ask for bond, and possibly be released, regardless of what the state's attorney decides.
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So I'm supposed to know what you've been told?

Daniel could (though unlikely) stay in jail indefinitely. But what was written in the article is likely what the authorities told the reporters. I doubt the police or anyone connected with the Peoria Count jail would willingly hold back information saying that there were other options that included a bond hearing taking place today. JMO.
 
BradleyBrave said:
I never implied that the players were 'normal' students. Rather, I was referring to this person's comments about athletes getting away with murder. Perhaps that is what occurs at other schools, but I think we've seen in the past year from a prank gone wrong with the soccer team to these incidents with the basketball team, that athletes do not get away with such things. One basketball player lost his scholarship, three young men are going to serve prison time because of a prank gone wrong, 2 basketball players are on athletic probation, and 1 player had to spend a day in jail for something that may turn out to be nothing. Quite frankly, that person's statement is nothing short of ignorant.
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I agree that the student's comments were more than over-the-top, but as a student myself, I will say that it is frustrating to see these athletes getting into such trouble. This is the third incident in a year involving BU athletes (four if you include Ray Brown's second positive test). It's becoming a pain in the butt.
 
Scouter said:
I agree that the student's comments were more than over-the-top, but as a student myself, I will say that it is frustrating to see these athletes getting into such trouble. This is the third incident in a year involving BU athletes (four if you include Ray Brown's second positive test). It's becoming a pain in the butt.
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I agree 100%, I am tired of it too. But BU doesn't let these kids slide, like this student seems to think. He probably thought the Duke kids were guilty too.
 
Scouter said:
..... but as a student myself, I will say that it is frustrating to see these athletes getting into such trouble. This is the third incident in a year involving BU athletes (four if you include Ray Brown's second positive test). It's becoming a pain in the butt.
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True Scouter. But I wonder how many BU students are involved in trouble that is never reported since they are not "public figures"? I know when I was a student there were plenty of "incidents" Thursday-Saturday night that were handled by BU security or Peoria police that never became public knowledge.
 
Braves4Life said:
True Scouter. But I wonder how many BU students are involved in trouble that is never reported since they are not "public figures"? I know when I was a student there were plenty of "incidents" Thursday-Saturday night that were handled by BU security or Peoria police that never became public knowledge.
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Exactly my thoughts.
 
Braves4Life said:
True Scouter. But I wonder how many BU students are involved in trouble that is never reported since they are not "public figures"? I know when I was a student there were plenty of "incidents" Thursday-Saturday night that were handled by BU security or Peoria police that never became public knowledge.
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As an Resident Advisor I can GUARANTEE you that this is the case. Things like this happen ALOT on ALL college campuses and no one ever hears of them. I do however, think that Daniel is a different case. He is representing the University and needs to be held to the highest of expectations. I hope DRuff did not commit the crimes he's accused of -- and it seems there actually is a little in question right now, there is some interesting talk spreading through campus, but it's all heresay right now so I won't post it -- but if he did commit the crime he should not play in a BU uniform again. He should be allowed to attend senior night, but not be publicly recognized. DRuff has been a stand-up guy at BU, and represented the University well until this recent transgression, but that does not excuse it and Daniel needs to suffer the repercussions. This is not to say however, that Daniel cannot repair his image with a sincere apology, probably some community service, and time.
 
Scouter said:
I agree that the student's comments were more than over-the-top, but as a student myself, I will say that it is frustrating to see these athletes getting into such trouble. This is the third incident in a year involving BU athletes (four if you include Ray Brown's second positive test). It's becoming a pain in the butt.
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Scouter...I agree but I ask you this. Are you JUST as upset with "normal" students that are doing similar things?
 
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