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BU coaching candidates- where are they now?

Da Coach said:
We have had 1 season without CB on the staff, and there are already people saying the team didn't perform as well because he's no longer with the team. This year's team would have easily won 22+ games if it had not been for freak injuries to Ruffin and Warren. Can that be blamed on Jim Les, and would it not have happened if CB was still an assistant? I don't think so. But people see what they want to see.
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We have had 4 seasons without CB on the staff
 
basketball nut said:
Some great points Houston, I have read all these people sayiing that anything less then 1st place, mybe 2nd place, is unacceptable. My question to each of them is how can so many teams be in 1 st place because all these other teams are saying anything less then 1 place is unacceptable also. Was I disapopinted this year? Very much so as I was expecting a lot more out these new guys but then KW wrote an article about how many new guys fit in right away (this goes for any team) and how long it takes for a team to gel. As far as CB being the reason the team did good I am sure he had a lot to do w/ it. On the other hand as Houston pointed out CB was as involved in the team this year as he could be. I would think that he was at more practices then not and as close as JL and CB are I would assume that they talked everyday and after every game.
For myself, as much as I want to win and would love to go undefeated in the league, I am more concerned about how did the team play. Did they give 100% or did they give up? I heard so many people say how BU didn't play any defense last Sat and some of that may be true but then you have to also say that CU was just plain lucky because of that bad D to get that many open looks . Maybe some of those open looks was the way DA changed his offense to create that open look. I also saw 3, maybe 4 shots that went in just like DU on Sunday that were as much luck as they were good shots. I want a team to give 100% all the time. I seen some really good basketball games at BU this year and very few that I wish I had not seen. (NIU was one of them) Some people said BU gave up in the first halve agaisnt CU but then by that standard I guess ISU gave up in the first halve against DU also. My point is that a team can try as hard as they want and sometimes the ball is just not going in the hoop. Is there as answer as to why that happens? Sometimes it is how good of D the other team is playing and other times it is just plain a fluke. No one is perfect all the time but I get the feeling that some would think that if you wear the Red & White of BU you should be perfect all the time.
The coaches only give the plays to the team. They do not shoot the ball or defend the other team. Yes, sometimes the coach is to blame for not making the right moves or correcting what is wrong but other times the problem can be blamed on no one other then the players and sometimes it is just a fluke.
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You have some good points.
You mentioned the CU game last Sat. I would like to make a few statements.
CU was on the court first for warmups a good 10 to 15 mins. before BU came out to start theirs. After 10-15 mins. of layups and a little shoot around BU departed again to the locker room. CU continued to shoot another 5 to 10 mins. I don't have the %'s in front of me (Maybe some could furish them) but as I recall they were like day and night. (BU Being NIGHT) The 1st half fore sure!!!!!!!!
When the teams came out to play CU looked ready and BU went through the motions.
Also I sat next to some long time CU Fans and they mention to one another, right before tip off that they never seen Dana with his coat off this early. He was ready and if anyone watched him, I'm sure they had to agree. He was in the entire game and he worked his bench (players), so when they entered the game they played and new just what the coach wanted of them.
That one play didn't win the game for them, it may of cost BU the win, but it was won before the game started and it all started hours after the Sat. before win over BU.
Not sure your player blame applys this time!! But JL looked good in his coat!
 
tornado said:
it is obvious what he meant.
We have had one season since CB left the staff.
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I forgot those other seasons dont count because Coach Les didnt have all his own players.

3 bad seasons in a row then CB arrives, 2 above average seasons with 1 great run of games, then CB leaves and another bad season. Cant spin that
 
So since Coach Les has near-unanimous support among fans and donors, do you think all that support is misguided? What should be done?
 
Da Coach said:
So since Coach Les has near-unanimous support among fans and donors, do you think all that support is misguided? What should be done?
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I think winning should be done! I dont want the coach to be replaced but if he is recruiting good talent which everyone says he is and he is not winning then what? Would he have the same support if he wasnt one of the best players in Bradley history? How many seasons outside the top 3 will the fans and donors accept? We are going on 6, granted you get a few extra years for winning in the NCAA tournament so would you say 2 more years outside the top 3? 3 more years? 4? 5? How many?

Do you think our associate head coach is as qualified as CB or based on his resume qualified to be an assoiciate head coach at a D1 school at all? Do you think having a more qualified associate head coach would help? I dont know but it cant hurt.
 
I don't feel I am qualified to tell the coach who he should select as his assistants. I am satisfied with the direction the program is going. He is doing a good job and has my support.
 
I am not against coach Les. I want him to succeed completely. He has his strengths and he has his weaknesses. I don't care if he plays 4 guards, 3 guards or 2 guards. I want him to figure out what it takes to finish in the top 3 of the Valley on a regular basis, win more games than he loses in St. Louis, and make it back to the NCAA on somewhat of a regular basis. Can it be done? I don't know, but I want it. I am not a basketball expert, but I do watch away from the ball most of the time when I watch games. BU is not good at playing defense consistently, BU does not play with enough intensity for complete games, BU does not block out well for rebounds, and BU does not crash the boards by going to the lane. I feel BU loses more games due to fundamentals and effort than talent. In my opinion that comes down to the coaching staff, not just Jim Les. Do I want Coach Les gone...no. Do I want him to learn and get better....you bet. Coach Les has done many things I like, he and his staff just need to get better at getting the team to do the little things that win the close games. A few more rebounds, a little better defense , and more intensity can turn a lot of losses to wins. Would I like better talent...sure. Can we get it...I don't know. I think the talent we have had the past few years could finish higher with the things I list. If you accept mediocrity, that is what you will get. I am not willing to accept mediocrity. BU can do better. Here is hoping BU and Coach Les get it done.
 
Da Coach said:
I don't feel I am qualified to tell the coach who he should select as his assistants. I am satisfied with the direction the program is going. He is doing a good job and has my support.
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How long will you support the program if we dont finish in the top 3?

Almost no one on this board or any borad is "qualfied" to talk about college baskeball, that doesnt mean we dont. We all form opinions

Here is our associate head coaches resume and our director of operations resume. I think the ops guys has a better resume for coaching college. Part of being a head coach is picking the best people to work for you.



http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle...98&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=122861&Q_SEASON=2007

http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle...98&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=122865&Q_SEASON=2007

Here is a quote from the great Thomas Edison

"We shall have no better conditions in the future if we are satisfied with all those which we have at present"
 
Da Coach said:
I don't feel I am qualified to tell the coach who he should select as his assistants. I am satisfied with the direction the program is going. He is doing a good job and has my support.
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I disagree. I want to have input in the assistants we hire. Why won't anyone take my crazy plan of stocking the staff with fired Valley head coaches seriously? We already have one. Hire Barry! Hire Royce! What about Dr. Tom? I heard through my sources (not really) that he's ticked sitting out this year and that he wants to put Keno in his place.

Delete my posts if you wish but you are only going to make the groundswell of support behind my lunatic plan crest even higher.
 
Lakeview Brave said:
Here is a quote from the great Thomas Edison

"We shall have no better conditions in the future if we are satisfied with all those which we have at present"
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Edison was talking about developing great inventions that lessen human suffering and create a better world.
We're talking about basketball. Big difference, unless you consider this as important as the invention of the light bulb.
I don't think Edison is qualified to tell the coach who to hire, recruit, and play either.
 
I have read dissatisfied fans on the Saluki board, Kentucky board, and yes.....my gosh,
even on the Florida message board saying they were dissatisfied with their present coach and wanted to get out while they could.
Da Coach, I guess it wouldn't be any different here.
After all, isn't Peoria the "Land of 10,000 basketball coaches"?
 
Da Coach said:
Edison was talking about developing great inventions that lessen human suffering and create a better world.
We're talking about basketball. Big difference, unless you consider this as important as the invention of the light bulb.
I don't think Edison is qualified to tell the coach who to hire, recruit, and play either.
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The context that Edison used it is irrelevent the words can apply to any situation.

Since some people on here say they support Bradley players like thier own family and cheer for the Bradley team like they would thier children playing sports then maybe Bradley basketball is as important as anything else in the world to some.
 
tornado said:
I have read dissatisfied fans on the Saluki board, Kentucky board, and yes.....my gosh,
even on the Florida message board saying they were dissatisfied with their present coach and wanted to get out while they could.
Da Coach, I guess it wouldn't be any different here.
After all, isn't Peoria the "Land of 10,000 basketball coaches"?
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Its all about your expectaions. Those teams want to make deep runs in the tournament and win national championships every few years. I would like to finish in the top 3 but maybe that is to much to ask of a small private school with bad facilities. Perhaps the new standard should be top 5 and pray for the NIT.
 
Lakeview Brave said:
The context that Edison used it is irrelevent the words can apply to any situation.

Since some people on here say they support Bradley players like thier own family and cheer for the Bradley team like they would their children playing sports then maybe Bradley basketball is as important as anything else in the world to some.
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Why do most of your posts have to take some kind of insulting shot at me, the coaches, or at other Bradley supporters?

You, like everyone else is entitled to your opinion. But you seem indignant that I don't agree with you, and must therefore insult me as if you feel you have the superior intellectual postion and I must be put down. Others have even stated silliness like the strongest BU supporters are actually to blame for their dissatisfaction with the Bradley program.
Again, it's just basketball.
 
Da Coach said:
Why do most of your posts have to take some kind of insulting shot at me, the coaches, or at other Bradley supporters?

You, like everyone else is entitled to your opinion. But you seem indignant that I don't agree with you, and must therefore insult me as if you feel you have the superior intellectual postion and I must be put down. Others have even stated silliness like the strongest BU supporters are actually to blame for their dissatisfaction with the Bradley program.
Again, it's just basketball.
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Im sorry if you feel insulted, that is certainly not my intention. Lots of different Bradley fans support the team in lots of different ways. Those of us who are unhappy with the results are insulted the most. Told "were not real fans" called "psedo fans" because we are unhappy with losing. Told we are "selfish" because we wouldnt give Dan Ruffin the same benfit of the doubt we would our own family. Those are all things that have been posted about me and a few other posters.

This was a dissapointing season by anyones standards so I come on here and vent to others who I think are dissappointed. Nothing personal
 
no you are not the only one...there are a couple more just like you and we hear it from them all the time, too. ;)
I don't understand why you allow yourself to be so miserable all the time. Maybe change and become a Duke fan, since they win all the time.
 
tornado said:
no you are not the only one...there are a couple more just like you and we hear it from them all the time, too. ;)
I don't understand why you allow yourself to be so miserable all the time. Maybe change and become a Duke fan, since they win all the time.
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I'm not miserable, thank you. I'm actually quite happy I have a week off from school. I guess I just don't look through rose-colored glasses and imagine that everything is just fine and peachy at BU. Is it a crime that I want to see this program at or near the top of the league standings on a regular basis? Because that hasn't happened since I arrived here four years ago.
 
I don't even know where to buy rose colored glasses, and of course I want to see BU win the Valley every year,
but I sure don't think griping on a message board will get it done, and I think this thread has totally put to rest the notion that we could have done better with another of the candidates from the 2002 coaching search.

That's the whole point of this thread....to show that of the 60 different people who were candidates, then whittled down to about a dozen, then narrowed to four, and then JL was chosen......I am firmly convinced we got the best guy and we should stick with him.
There is nobody who would have even done as well let alone better.
If you think otherwise, then give me his (or her) name?
Which one of the options would have been better.

Some of this reminds me of a guy who gets married then spends the rest of his life bemoaning that he maybe could have married someone better. Always seeing the negatives, always seeing the glass half empty, and missing the entire experience along the way.
 
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