Tulsa Brave
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Vegas has Tulsa favored by 3.5.
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Next game- Bradley at Tulsa, Monday 3/31 at 7 pm
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My guess is Fox Sports Midwest will have a replay on of the Cardinals' Opening Day game.
I think our "eggs" have been layed at home.....early when DR was down and we hadn't learned how to play without him (having to sub a 5th year senior with a freshman) we played a few very poor games.
There was NO reason to lose even without Danny.
Now home is once again ours and we can battle almost anyone on the road.....being healthy has its rewards.
it's boogie time
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I'll agree with that. The 9 first half points to Northern Iowa and the loss to Wichita State at home certainly stand out. It is hard to believe that Bradley lost 5 in row at home at one point.
I just wanted to balance out the road part of my post so it didn't sounds like I thought BU was some juggernaut on the road. The opening game loss to UIC and the dissappointing loss to Indiana State is what I was thinking about when I reffered to laying eggs.
2bradleyfans
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Can someone give me a "heads up" on why it was that Tulsa left the Valley?
Tulsa Brave
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Mainly for football reasons.
Tulsa was once called the "oil capital of the world." A lot of big oil companies either started or were based here. With oil bust of the 80's, a lot of our companies were either bought or just moved to Houston. A lot of people around Tulsa actually work there, even to this day. As a result, there's some bad blood. Houston fans rub it in our nose a lot.
The football part has to do with us beating them in the first college game played in the Astrodome and them later beating us 100-6 (team was sick, tried to forfeit . . . largely regarded as one of the worst examples of sportsmanship ever). We hadn't played them in anything in years and there was instant internet hatred when we joined CUSA.
That's pretty much it. With D1a changing in the late 80's/early 90's, TU couldn't survive as an independent and needed a league. We got into the 16 team version of the WAC, but were really far behind in facilities and everything else. I think there was an initial attempt to get into CUSA, but our other sports were way behind.
We stunk it up in football, then the Mountain West split off and we were left in this weird conference that eventually included Louisiana Tech, Rice, Fresno State, and Hawaii. With the success of basketball and the depths football had fallen to, there was serious talk of dropping football altogether. We're the smallest school in D1a/FBS.
In the mean time, football got its act together, we built an on campus basketball arena, all the non-revenue sports improved, and we made plans to renovate the football stadium (construction is happening now). We got into CUSA, which is really the next best thing to the Valley for us -- easy travel, attractive destinations (Dallas, Orlando, Memphis, New Orleans), and some good programs (not Rice . . . many of us hate Rice, as you'll see).
I think we stayed in the Valley in soccer up until the last couple of years . . . maybe in a couple of other sports, too.
2bradleyfans
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very informative, thankyou.
houstontxbrave
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I am sure Rice isnt a huge fan of the University of Tulsa after what your football coach did to them last season.
Nope, not at all. Did you not hear about the meltdown after the half time show this past season? Made some national newspapers. The Rice Band did this show about looking for Graham in hell, where they eventually found him in Tulsa (it was a really poor satire based off Dante's Inferno). The whole thing ended with a joke calling Graham a douchebag. Things haven't really been the same since between the two schools.
There's some serious dislike between the respective message boards for each school.
For those that don't know . . . Tulsa hired the Rice coach, Todd Graham, after we lost Steve Kragthorpe to Louisville. Graham had been our defensive coordinator the three years prior to him leaving for Rice. He was at Rice on year. From the sound of things, he was not happy with Rice's commitment to football and wanted to come back. The Houston media is still livid -- I would say Rice fans are livid, but as far as we can tell, Rice has one living fan (j/k).
2bradleyfans
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I know I am getting off topic on the thread Coach but I am currious......
Gold, you are full of information and interresting trivia. Does this rivalry between Tulsa and the Universities in Houston extend to all things Tulsa v.Houston? Is there an ongoing mutual disdain for one another? (e.g. Simpson's Springfield vs. Shelbyville)
Kind of. Keep in mind that Houston is a pro sports town. TU probably outdraws Houston and Rice combined in both football and basketball most nights -- now, I'm not bragging about TU's attendance, but trying to point out how bad those schools can be about fan support. TU competes just as much with OU and OSU and Oklahoma has about half as many people as the Houston metro.
It seems like when we do play, a lot of these things get brought up. There are really great, respectful fans at both schools. Rice is a great academic institution. Houston has a nice stadium and a great band. But when your family pays to visit Houston on a cold and rainy day, you don't really forget the home team band getting on their PA and calling your coach a "douchebag" and your hometown "hell."
A lot of the disdain in football with Houston goes back to the 100-6 game I mentioned. There's more to it than that, but that's a nutshell. The Rice thing is newer -- most of our fans never paid much attention to Rice until we hired Graham back and it got nasty. But it is pretty darn ugly for some involved.
Others have a sense of humor about the whole thing. The Rice band director had to apologize to TU. In his remarks, he said douchebag wasn't a really bad word. He made some remark like, "What is that anyway, a 'jerk?'"
I took the time to mail him a douchebag. I got a thank you note in the mail on Rice stationary. I keep meaning to get it framed.
Anyway, the point is that it might not be "that bad," but people certainly always think about these things when we play those schools.
2bradleyfans
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Thanks Gold, I'll speak for myself but I am sure Bradleyfans would agree that we certainly don't think Tulsa and it's fans are d'bags and I am sure you guys recipricate.
Hoping for a spirited contest Monday. I know this is imposing Gold, but would you be so kind as to inform your fans that a win is not in plans for Tulsa monday (We confirmed it earlier today with the Gazelle Group), I think that might save a good deal of heart ache for y'all.
Hoping for a spirited contest Monday. I know this is imposing Gold, but would you be so kind as to inform your fans that a win is not in plans for Tulsa monday (We confirmed it earlier today with the Gazelle Group), I think that might save a good deal of heart ache for y'all.
BUBraves06
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I just scrolled ahead to Monday on the tv guide thing and that is correct, FSN Midwest is replaying that afternoon's Cards game. The games can be seen on Fox College Sports Atlantic though.
Like I said earlier, we've got no reason to dislike Bradley. WE have a lot of history with some other schools, but few are as cool about remembering our past games so favorably. It was a real joy reading this board this morning with all the favorable memories of Nolan, Pressey, et al (I was a baby when all that happened, but some of my first words were "Paul Pressey").
I would be happy to pass your information from the Gazelle group along, but Mssrs. Wojcik, Jordan, Walls, and Uzoh wouldn't like that very much and would probably disagree with you. Don't make 'em mad. Woj has crazy eyes.
Like I said earlier, we've got no reason to dislike Bradley. WE have a lot of history with some other schools, but few are as cool about remembering our past games so favorably. It was a real joy reading this board this morning with all the favorable memories of Nolan, Pressey, et al (I was a baby when all that happened, but some of my first words were "Paul Pressey").
I would be happy to pass your information from the Gazelle group along, but Mssrs. Wojcik, Jordan, Walls, and Uzoh wouldn't like that very much and would probably disagree with you. Don't make 'em mad. Woj has crazy eyes.
