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These coaching questions

srw

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Obviously I make no apologies for thinking this program has regressed dramatically over the past 10 years....(Yes I know about the 2 weeks of excellence in March!)

That said..I have found all the coaching speculation sorta hilarious...

Seems fairly simple for me..

JL and JG are not exactly best friends....Never have been since that ISU mess a couple of years ago....

The new AD very likely has real little power. JG knows that her athletic dept is the biggest marketing component she has. Most inside the department think she takes too active of a role...I would tend to agree, but she is the President, and so she gets to call the shot most of the time.

That said, any President, with an ego, is going to want to succeed and fail on their own people. Brazil and Mo were so philosophically alike that it he sort of was Brazil's guy. (And yes the one poster who wants to incessantly tie me to Mo; go ahead and take your chance here)

So Abegg/Fergie/Comittee hire Mo. Brazil keeps things the same...

The Brosk comes in, drops Mo's rollover, watches Jim finish second and second in his second year.

Mo lays an egg in year 3, and then the JL drumbeat starts in January (HMMMM)
The Brosk brings in JL...and we are off and rolling.

So hear comes JG, who doesnt see eye to eye with KK, and unceremoniously helps him get hired at Gulf Coast...

She gets to bring in her guy as AD.

It seems reasonable that they will want their guy as head Hoops coach.

The questions then become two-fold

1) There is a lot of real money people who love Coach Les. Some of these are trustees

2) Does JG feel that if Les lays an egg, she has to pounce before he goes back to his range (See Friday at 2:30 games in the mvct) and thus makes a change

If JG doesn't feel number two is an issue, JL gets two or 3 more years....
 
Here's one of the biggest misconceptions, I believe, people have about JG.

She doesn't necessarily care about athletic success. Keeping her informed of progress and issues is of utmost important. Academic success from the athletic department is equally important.

Athletic success is a nice bonus, but graduation percentages take precedent over winning percentages. (see Dominguez, Elvis)
 
Well if JG doesn't care about winning percentage she will have to increase the Development staff to recover the monetary loss from basketball revenues.
 
I was a big JG fan back as a student....I'm not gonna lie...she's really annoying me these days.

JG doesnt care about athletics? sure i guess not. She cares about $$$$$

can't blame her, it's a private college, you need that mentality.

That being said, I think she's gonna have a little talk about JL's coaching career at bradley. If the coaching keeps making these mistakes and running teams like this, we aren't going to be a very impressive school for recruits...less recruits = less wins = less support = less money = less JL

JG does a great job about being concerned about the students, unfortunately the students want a pretty campus and a starbucks in the library....that closes at 1am!!!! sorry to vent, don't feel JG is doing as good a job as people seem to be saying
 
Obviously I make no apologies for thinking this program has regressed dramatically over the past 10 years....(Yes I know about the 2 weeks of excellence in March!)

That said..I have found all the coaching speculation sorta hilarious...

Seems fairly simple for me..

JL and JG are not exactly best friends....Never have been since that ISU mess a couple of years ago....

The new AD very likely has real little power. JG knows that her athletic dept is the biggest marketing component she has. Most inside the department think she takes too active of a role...I would tend to agree, but she is the President, and so she gets to call the shot most of the time.

That said, any President, with an ego, is going to want to succeed and fail on their own people. Brazil and Mo were so philosophically alike that it he sort of was Brazil's guy. (And yes the one poster who wants to incessantly tie me to Mo; go ahead and take your chance here)

So Abegg/Fergie/Comittee hire Mo. Brazil keeps things the same...

The Brosk comes in, drops Mo's rollover, watches Jim finish second and second in his second year.

Mo lays an egg in year 3, and then the JL drumbeat starts in January (HMMMM)
The Brosk brings in JL...and we are off and rolling.

So hear comes JG, who doesnt see eye to eye with KK, and unceremoniously helps him get hired at Gulf Coast...

She gets to bring in her guy as AD.

It seems reasonable that they will want their guy as head Hoops coach.

The questions then become two-fold

1) There is a lot of real money people who love Coach Les. Some of these are trustees

2) Does JG feel that if Les lays an egg, she has to pounce before he goes back to his range (See Friday at 2:30 games in the mvct) and thus makes a change

If JG doesn't feel number two is an issue, JL gets two or 3 more years....


Welcome back, again this ugly mess has brought you out of the woodwork.

By the way I agree 100 percent.
 
JG will care about athletic success when the dollars from the basketball program stop rolling in. This isn't state-funded EKU, this is a private institution with one revenue sport supporting an entire Division I athletic department. While I am not a big fan of hers thus far, I don't think she is stupid.
 
I would think that President Glasser cares about Athletic success since she goes to nearly every basketball and soccer game, including a good deal of the away games on the weekends. Also her new $80 thousand or so new luxury suite she had built at Shea Stadium last season. I don't think she would want to waste her busy President time going to watch a team lose every game.

Jason
 
JG will care about athletic success when the dollars from the basketball program stop rolling in. This isn't state-funded EKU, this is a private institution with one revenue sport supporting an entire Division I athletic department. While I am not a big fan of hers thus far, I don't think she is stupid.

Exactly ... and she knows the blue hairs -- those with the money -- will continue to follow and support the team in hopes of reliving the glory days.
 
President Glasser cares a heckuva lot more about athletics than nearly every university president in the country. That doesn't mean it's not a small part of her overriding responsibilities.

But one thing you will never find is an university president who will sacrifice academic performance and professional development for success in athletics.

Except maybe at Kentucky.
 
Exactly ... and she knows the blue hairs -- those with the money -- will continue to follow and support the team in hopes of reliving the glory days.

Blue hairs pulling their money out can be more than offset with a consistent winner, which breeds a new generation of fans and money coming in from around the country, casual fans and die-hards alike. If these donors are going to pull their money out because Jimmy Les isn't the coach, then they aren't BU people to begin with. Creating a new generation of fans is more important for the longevity of the program than appeasing the fans who won't be around 5-10 years from now.
 
President Glasser cares a heckuva lot more about athletics than nearly every university president in the country. That doesn't mean it's not a small part of her overriding responsibilities.

But one thing you will never find is an university president who will sacrifice academic performance and professional development for success in athletics.

Except maybe at Kentucky.


You're kidding right! Am I not catching your sarcasm. Sports are huge revenue streams for a few schools and if you look at some of the classes developed for the sports program i.e. basket weaving, basketball 101 your statement makes zero sense.
 
You're kidding right! Am I not catching your sarcasm. Sports are huge revenue streams for a few schools and if you look at some of the classes developed for the sports program i.e. basket weaving, basketball 101 your statement makes zero sense.

University Presidents are essentially naive towards athletics.

And as far as your comments about basket weaving and basketball 101, at a good number of schools, athletes are PE majors. 101 would likely be a core requirement course. Basket weaving probably fulfilled a Home Ec (or Family and Consumer Science as its now called) requirement for Ed majors.

Bradley was ridiculed for its athletes taking dance classes in the 1950's and 1960's but those were requirements for the PE major.
 
I didn't say they didn't care about money!

Of course they love the money athletics bring. But if you tried to carry a convo with any of them you would really be surprised at how little they actually know or care about sports.
 
I didn't say they didn't care about money!

Of course they love the money athletics bring. But if you tried to carry a convo with any of them you would really be surprised at how little they actually know or care about sports.

I'll take they know little about sports but they do know about the revenue that sports generate. I've had conversation about the sports program with a CIO of a major university and that was one department where funding was not a concern. Sad but true!
 
I was a big JG fan back as a student....I'm not gonna lie...she's really annoying me these days.

JG doesnt care about athletics? sure i guess not. She cares about $$$$$

can't blame her, it's a private college, you need that mentality.

That being said, I think she's gonna have a little talk about JL's coaching career at bradley. If the coaching keeps making these mistakes and running teams like this, we aren't going to be a very impressive school for recruits...less recruits = less wins = less support = less money = less JL

JG does a great job about being concerned about the students, unfortunately the students want a pretty campus and a starbucks in the library....that closes at 1am!!!! sorry to vent, don't feel JG is doing as good a job as people seem to be saying

Well I think I have one good question to ask here. Why do students choose a particular university? Is it because of the athletics or because of the quality of education they would like to receive. I would hope to heck it is the latter!

Yeah, yeah, I know the "ideal" situation is a school that is great in "fill in the blank curriculum here" AND has a great basketball and/or football team. And obviously when deciding between the final two schools, school spirit, i.e. athletics is usually the deciding factor. But being a small private school that prides itself as one of the best small universities in the midwest, I would think JG would have more on her mind than how the men's basketball team is doing!

Here's my view on all of this. I think JG would fire Les for an off-the-court incident LONG before she fires him for poor performance on the court. The only exception I could see here is if the team performs very poorly over the next two years and she decides to take advantage of having a new AD here and put in one of their own guys into the head coaching position. But I think it would take a total collapse of the team for that to happen.

Why do I say that? Because as was alluded to above, the amount of support Les has from the trustees and the amount of donations he brings in would supercede what the record of his team is on the court. If the trustees however decide one day that donations will drop off unless they see better results on the court, well then JG I'm sure would change her position really quick. I just don't see that happening anytime in the forseeable future, and as I have stated on other threads, it's much too early to call this a season when we haven't even entered conference play yet.

So to sum things up, JG should continue to do what she does best, and that is making sure Bradley University maintains its academic reputation and making sure she sees to the needs of its students. That will always supercede athletics in all but a few of the athletic "crazy" universities.
 
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