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Games of Interest, Tuesday 12/29

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Coming into today.......Bradley non-conference opponents: 66-47 (.584)
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Bradley @ Drake (-1), 7:05pm CST (Comcast 74)

Northern Iowa @ Creighton (-1.5), 7:05pm CST

Missouri State (-2.5) @ Evansville, 7:05pm CST

Wichita State @ illinois state (-1.5), 7:05pm CST

Indiana State @ Southern Illinois (-6), 7:05pm CST

Pacific @ Oklahoma State (-11), 7:05pm CST

Wofford (-1.5) vs. Kent State, 10:00pm CST
 
All Valley games are at halftime and all road teams are winning.....

29 - Bradley
28 - Drake

25 - Northern Iowa
18 - Creighton

36 - Missouri State
34 - Evansville

30 - Wichita State
29 - illinois state

28 - Indiana State
26 - Southern Illinois
 
FINALS:

Indiana St. 52
Southern Illinois 70

Missouri St. 74
Evansville 60

Wichita St. 57
Illinois St. 72

Northern Iowa 60
Creighton 52

Bradley 67
Drake 59
 
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DUBrave5 said:
FINALS:

Indiana St. 52
Southern Illinois 70

Missouri St. 74
Evansville 60

Wichita St. 57
Illinois St. 72

Northern Iowa 60
Creighton 52

Bradley 67
Drake 59
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Jake Kelly had 3 points, 2 assists, 0 rebounds for Indiana State in their loss at SIU- where are the posters that said he'd dominate in the Valley?
The other Iowa transfer, Tony Freeman, lead SIU with 19 points and 4 assists.
Box score for Indiana State-SIU-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200912290528
 
ISU exposes Wichita as a team that, like ISU, has yet to really play a challenging road game...
thus they go to Normal and struggle, putting up only 57 and getting almost nothing out of Toure Murry

In Indiana State's 70-52 loss at SIU Jake Kelly had just 3 pts, SIU had a big 2nd half, outscoring InSU 44-24, but SIU drew only 5401!!

UNI wins at Creighton 60-52
MSU wins at Evansville 74-60
 
tornado said:
ISU exposes Wichita as a team that, like ISU, has yet to really play a challenging road game...
thus they go to Normal and struggle, putting up only 57 and getting almost nothing out of Toure Murry
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Murry came into the game leading the Shockers in scoring at 13.8 points per game.

He scored 3 points on 1-8 shooting.

Eldridge defended him the entire game.
 
GoBirds said:
tornado has anybody played as tough as schedule as bradley?
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No, after all the MVC preconference games are now completed, Bradley has played the toughest schedule of any team.
Here are the current Strength of Schedules for the MVC teams-
BU- 54
InSU-63
UNI- 151
CU- 172
MSU- 205
DU- 255
WSU- 305
IlSU- 336
SIU- 338
UE- 343
 
GoBirds said:
tornado has anybody played as tough as schedule as bradley?
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not according to all the experts...
Bradley's Strength of Schedule is rated at 54th toughest, while the next closest Valley team is at 63 (Indiana State), then it falls all the way to #151 (UNI)

Maybe you don't know this, but ISU has the 336th toughest schedule (basically among the 10-11 worst schedules among ALL schools)
and SIU is at 338, Evansville at 343, and Wichita at 305.
Sorry - but this crap is inexcusable and pitiful and really hutrs the Valley big time, and hurts every other team.
Each time Bradley plays an opponent like ISU (RPI 158, SOS 336) or SIU (RPI 156, SOS 338 ) it actually hurts Bradley rather than helps them!
It hurts the entire conference and it's embarrassing...dragging the MVC's SOS way, way down to 27th out of 31 conference, with only
America East, Southland, Northeast Conf., and Patriot scheduling worse!
It actually hurts to the pit of my stomach that the Valley is in amongst those weak, lowly conferences as a result of guys like ISU & SIU scheduling selfishly and softly.

So....... if you are going to challenge the statement that WSU hasn't gone on the road yet to play anyone tough, then maybe cite even one example of a team they had played on the road whose RPI is better than 200?
 
tornado said:
not according to all the experts...
Bradley's Strength of Schedule is rated at 54th toughest, while the next closest Valley team is at 63 (Indiana State), then it falls all the way to #151 (UNI)

Maybe you don't know this, but ISU has the 336th toughest schedule (basically among the 10-11 worst schedules among ALL schools)
and SIU is at 338, Evansville at 343, and Wichita at 305.
Sorry - but this crap is inexcusable and pitiful and really hutrs the Valley big time, and hurts every other team.
Each time Bradley plays an opponent like ISU (RPI 158, SOS 336) or SIU (RPI 156, SOS 338 ) it actually hurts Bradley rather than helps them!
It hurts the entire conference and it's embarrassing...dragging the MVC's SOS way, way down to 27th out of 31 conference, with only
America East, Southland, Northeast Conf., and Patriot scheduling worse!
It actually hurts to the pit of my stomach that the Valley is in amongst those weak, lowly conferences as a result of guys like ISU & SIU scheduling selfishly and softly.

So....... if you are going to challenge the statement that WSU hasn't gone on the road yet to play anyone tough, then maybe cite even one example of a team they had played on the road whose RPI is better than 200?
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Too bad we couldn't win those games. :roll:
 
But the point is obvious- even though Bradley lost a couple games we wish they would have won, Bradley's RPI (121) is still much better than Illinois State's RPI (158 ) because of the huge difference in the quality of opponents.
Even though ISU has a pretty record (10-2), is one of the best MVC teams, and should exceed 20+ wins again, they will have trouble getting their RPI under 100 by the time the NCAA selection committee makes choices for at-large teams.
The terrible RPIs of many of the MVC teams this year won't help them improve their RPI during league play like it has in previous years when 7 or 8 of the MVC teams had RPIs under 100. Bradley has a better chance of getting an at-large bid than ISU this year.
This year, half the MVC teams have RPIs higher than 150.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_mvc_Men.html
 
I can't believe Wichita St is 300+. In fact, as the league as a whole, it didn't seem as bad as it actually is, schedule-wise. To have 3 teams in the bottom 15 is unforgivable. Terrible. No one let Indiana St off the hook either.

I'm going to have to analyze these further and bring justice to the perpetrators.
 
TheAsianSensation said:
I can't believe Wichita St is 300+. In fact, as the league as a whole, it didn't seem as bad as it actually is, schedule-wise. To have 3 teams in the bottom 15 is unforgivable. Terrible. No one let Indiana St off the hook either.

I'm going to have to analyze these further and bring justice to the perpetrators.
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I find it hard to believe that 305 is accurate (I know it is accurate per their site, but it seems off)... they have played 3 teams with an RPI of 304, 319, and 325. But they have also played Pitt and TTU with an RPI of 29 and 34... Then there are 3 teams in the 100's and 3 teams in the 200's... I dont see how the comes out to an SOS of 305... I know there is more that goes into it, but something seems off...
 
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