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flipper

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i am trying to figure out why we have so many second leads and end of losing. my question is this, do you think we have players playing too many minutes. in otherwords, is it our lack of depth that really hurts us and lets others catch up as our players wear down?
 
flipper said:
stats wise we at one time were leading the valley in rebounding werent we?
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We were I think averaging the most number of rebounds, I am not sure the margin was the highest. But it's a moot point really. When we win we usually rebound. When we don't rebound, we lose. We can dissect the stats to death. The only stat that matters isn't good.
 
It might have a little to do with an extended season due to the preseason practice and trip to Brazil?

When we went to Canada prior to 2005, we went from ending the non-con with an RPI of 36 and starting 9-2 to finishing 13-15, losers of 10 of 12. . .

Poor conditioning resulting in the lack of endurance to successfully maneuver through a 30 game DI college basketball season.

But in general, I believe we have gotten leap years better in that regard. In 2006 I believe we benefited from being better conditioned than other teams the final 13 games (of course it helped having 2 key players out for the 1st/3rd of the season).
 
BradleyBrave said:
We were I think averaging the most number of rebounds, I am not sure the margin was the highest. But it's a moot point really. When we win we usually rebound. When we don't rebound, we lose. We can dissect the stats to death. The only stat that matters isn't good.
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i hope prosser is good.
 
It all starts in the first 2-3 minutes of the half, when we let the other team go on a big run! Tonight it was 10 to 2:oops: This team is not coming out for the second half ready to play:?:mad:
 
I think I am more sad than anything. We're better than this. I truly believe that. Each time this happens at home it's more heartbreaking.
 
We played scared plain and simple. First half the energy is flowing the O is clickin the D is active. Second half we slow down the O run the shot clock, that lack of flow and intensity carries into the D and we're not as active leading to more back door lay ins and uncontested 3's. I'm confident that if we just play our game not worry about the score or anything we'd be fine, but for some reason we always have to play lets slow it down and our offense for the last 10 min. of a game consists of sm putting up an off balance shot off a screen.
 
The last 5-10 minutes of nearly every single game we play passive, timid, scared basketball...We completely abandon the aggressive offensive execution that got us the leads earlier in the game and we turn into a stagnant, unimaginative team that is very easy to defend.
I don't get it...I don't understand why we stop running our offense and resort to running down the shot clock time after time, rolling out that same predictable isolation set, and invariably end up getting poor, low percentage shots at the end of almost every one of the possessions...
 
flipper said:
i hope prosser is good.
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Haha, seriously. I mean, maybe it's just me, but it really seems like this is bound to happen for the next 2-3 years minimum, at least until we start recruiting more bigs with some beef.

I don't think we've lost many games that can be blamed on our guards being outplayed this year. Time and time again, it's another big man - Odiakosa, Carmichael, Lawson, and it will be Egelseder on Saturday - that takes over the game. I guess we can just hope and pray that we don't run into any teams that have big, physical posts and that we shoot 75 percent from the field every night....
 
ER3 said:
The last 5-10 minutes of nearly every single game we play passive, timid, scared basketball...We completely abandon the aggressive offensive execution that got us the leads earlier in the game and we turn into a stagnant, unimaginative team that is very easy to defend.
I don't get it...I don't understand why we stop running our offense and resort to running down the shot clock time after time, rolling out that same predictable isolation set, and invariably end up getting poor, low percentage shots at the end of almost every one of the possessions...
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Post of the YEAR. Your post plus the fact "WE NEED BIGS WHO CAN PLAY" Love SS but we have to recruit BIGS WHO CAN PLAY. WSU did, ISU did, UNI did, MS has one . If you look at the standings outside of MS and their one good big, do we see a connection. WE WILL NOT BE CONTENDERS until we junk this 4 guard offfense and " GET SOME BIGS" like the 3 leaders in this conference. PERIOD
 
ER3 said:
The last 5-10 minutes of nearly every single game we play passive, timid, scared basketball...We completely abandon the aggressive offensive execution that got us the leads earlier in the game and we turn into a stagnant, unimaginative team that is very easy to defend.
I don't get it
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It's the whole playing not to lose mentality.

They abandon the go-for-the-win style and try the prevent defense.

I am sad with it to!
 
ImAStowellMan said:
Haha, seriously. I mean, maybe it's just me, but it really seems like this is bound to happen for the next 2-3 years minimum, at least until we start recruiting more bigs with some beef.

I don't think we've lost many games that can be blamed on our guards being outplayed this year. Time and time again, it's another big man - Odiakosa, Carmichael, Lawson, and it will be Egelseder on Saturday - that takes over the game. I guess we can just hope and pray that we don't run into any teams that have big, physical posts and that we shoot 75 percent from the field every night....
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Maybe I am imagining things, but Prosser looks smaller to me than he did a year ago.
 
I think Coach Buesch said it best on the post game last night, we don't have a go to scorer at the end of games. Maniscalco is the only guy who wants to take those shots, but when you put someone like Osiris on him, it really makes it hard for him. His only move is the pull up 3 off the high screen and roll. Only reason we won the Drake game is because Egolf tipped in two misses by Maniscalco at the end of the game.

I would think Warren would be better suited to create his own shot with his height, but that doesn't seem to happen.
 
wily coyote said:
From what I'm hearing your going to be disappointed. Hope not but don't get your hopes up. Please prove me wrong we need JP in a BIG way.
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I am concerned that he is not the player we thought or were told he is otherwise he would not be redshirting this season.
 
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