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How Can This Be?
- Thread starter Braveman
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It happens. Bradley also won at home last Saturday against UNI, a team with the best record in the MVC.
Indiana State has also beaten Creighton, SIU, Illinois State, Drake, and Evansville at home. Wichita State and UNI are the only conference games they have lost at home all year.
Indiana State has also beaten Creighton, SIU, Illinois State, Drake, and Evansville at home. Wichita State and UNI are the only conference games they have lost at home all year.
A good question. It seems Bradley is the only school that cannot deal with injuries.
tornado
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BU has done considerably better than Indiana State despite considerably MORE injury issues...facts are facts...
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=166769#post166769
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=166769#post166769
Facts are facts.... Here are the InSU and Bradley records for THIS YEAR! (the year we are talking about). Conference first, then overall.
Indiana State 8-8 .500 16-11 .593
Bradley 8-8 .500 13-13 .500
I am talking about this year- not last....
BU has a worse record, and didn't lose 3 of its top 4 scorers....
MacabreMob
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Indiana St
Vs RPI Top 50 0-4
Vs RPI Top 100 3-5
Worst RPI Loss at #214 LSU
Bradley
Vs RPI Top 50 1-4
Vs RPI Top 100 5-8
Worst RPI Loss vs #185 Loyola
Okay?
So they both have losing records against the Top 50 and the Top 100. Great
I love the whole strength schedule debate on here. Does it do anything to schedule tough and then lose as much as we do??
Is the tougher non-con getting us ready for the MVC race??
We finish in the middle of the pack every year....what is the non-con scheduling doing for us???
MacabreMob
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So you are in favor of scheduling more like ISU (red).
Their Non-conf teams by RPI:
at 150
161
at 162
196
198
230
296
304
at 309
at 328
342
With a non-con schedule like that, maybe we'd go 9-2? Put that with our 8-8 conference record and we'd be 17-10 right now. Wow - would we be a LOCK for the NIT?
Look at what you just typed. Wouldn't you want to be 17-10 as compared to what we are now??
Also, I ask again....why schedule tough if it never gets you ready for conference?
We are always around .500 in conference. So the "tougher" scheduling is doing us no favors either.
But if you are asking if I would rather be 17-10...then my answer is YES
MacabreMob
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So our scheduling problems are answered.
Here's the plan:
3 Buy-Games at home every year to Chicago St, SEMO, and UMKC.
3 Home-n-Home series every year with SIU-e, UIC, and Loyola.
1 Bracket Buster.
1 Bracket Buster return game.
1 MVC-MWC Challenge game.
1 In-season Tourney which we host every year bringing in W Illinois, E Illinois, and N Illinois played in a Round-Robin giving us 3 home games against them.
Yes?
ImAStowellMan
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Wow. Dumb.
Just answer me this.....
In the past 3 years, has this tough schedule helped get BU into the NCAA?
In the past 3 years, has this tough schedule helped BU get ready for conference?
No...so why not find a middle ground? No one wants 10 or so cupcakes. But, I think you might want to find games that are winnable AND beneficial.
If we had great talent every year, then I would certainly say we should load up the schedule. We don't have that.
Don't complain when someone says InSU is doing better with their injuries than we are with ours.
In the past 3 years, has this tough schedule helped get BU into the NCAA?
In the past 3 years, has this tough schedule helped BU get ready for conference?
No...so why not find a middle ground? No one wants 10 or so cupcakes. But, I think you might want to find games that are winnable AND beneficial.
If we had great talent every year, then I would certainly say we should load up the schedule. We don't have that.
Don't complain when someone says InSU is doing better with their injuries than we are with ours.
Buesch N Chips
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Maybe the tough schedule was what allowed us to play at near a .500 level while dealing with significant injuries, and possibly helped us reach the finals of the two post season tourneys. That seems just as valid as your supposition that it does nothing. No one knows the effect, because no one knows what would have happened without it.
bigdaddystuck
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I will admit that I was one of the posters on here stating before the conference race that our tougher non-con schedule was going to help us. I can see both sides of this discussion.
IMO.......We have built a number of double digit leads in games and have shown we are capable of playing very well. Conversely we have also lost most of those games we had double digit leads in. I would think that a tougher schedule would give us the ability to play through tough periods in a game. We have not shown that to be the case. More times than not, when we have been faced with the adversity of letting a big lead slip away...we have lost.
I guess the question I have now is...is the Valley the type of league we have to schedule so tough for to get ready? You could make the argument that if we dont play such a rough and tough schedule....maybe, just maybe, we don't have the injuries. As stated, ISU did not have the toughest schedule, but they did sweep the season series with us and have a better overall record. Granted they are not goin to win the conference reg. season title, but they are also in much better shape of a better post season tourney than us.
IMO.......We have built a number of double digit leads in games and have shown we are capable of playing very well. Conversely we have also lost most of those games we had double digit leads in. I would think that a tougher schedule would give us the ability to play through tough periods in a game. We have not shown that to be the case. More times than not, when we have been faced with the adversity of letting a big lead slip away...we have lost.
I guess the question I have now is...is the Valley the type of league we have to schedule so tough for to get ready? You could make the argument that if we dont play such a rough and tough schedule....maybe, just maybe, we don't have the injuries. As stated, ISU did not have the toughest schedule, but they did sweep the season series with us and have a better overall record. Granted they are not goin to win the conference reg. season title, but they are also in much better shape of a better post season tourney than us.
Well said. I think you said what I was trying to get at very well. You want your team tested, but not killed. Maybe our subpar non-con records have carried over into hurting us in conference.
Out of Balance
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Yep, tough schedules had everything to do with us losing all those home games, losing games we should of won , coming out after the half, not ready to play/flat and blowing all those second half leads and not finishing games:roll: I thought thats why you did tough schedules, to get your selfs ready so that kind of things don't happen:? Some on here (inclueing me) want BU to be like Butler and Gonzaga:? Check out their schedules. Was our schedule really that tough:doubt: Who are the ones we lost to:doubt: Who are the ones we beet:doubt: I think it has nothing to do with tough schedules but more with a team and its players ready to play good hard BB for each game:!: My opinion:|
tornado
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a really weak one virtually guaranteed the embarrassing exclusion from the NCAA for certain program(s).