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DePaul hires a new coach- Oliver Purnell

This sounds like a chicken$4!t and classless move by Purnell...............

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ncb/news/story?id=5059657

Purnell's decision stunned the Tigers, who went 21-11 this season. He had signed a two-year extension with Clemson in June and was making more than $1.3 million a year, but his buyout was only $250,000.

Clemson athletic director Dr. Terry Don Phillips said during a news conference he was shocked by Purnell's decision to leave. He said he learned of the move during a phone call from the coach at about 1:30 a.m. Tuesday.

"I'm not sure I know what to say," Phillips said. "I'm in a little bit of shock. ... I'm as surprised as anyone."

Phillips said Purnell left South Carolina without addressing his players, many learning via text message and on Twitter before interim coach Ron Bradley officially notified them at a 7:30 a.m. breakfast meeting.
 
Braves4Life said:
This sounds like a chicken$4!t and classless move by Purnell...............

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ncb/news/story?id=5059657

Purnell's decision stunned the Tigers, who went 21-11 this season. He had signed a two-year extension with Clemson in June and was making more than $1.3 million a year, but his buyout was only $250,000.

Clemson athletic director Dr. Terry Don Phillips said during a news conference he was shocked by Purnell's decision to leave. He said he learned of the move during a phone call from the coach at about 1:30 a.m. Tuesday.

"I'm not sure I know what to say," Phillips said. "I'm in a little bit of shock. ... I'm as surprised as anyone."

Phillips said Purnell left South Carolina without addressing his players, many learning via text message and on Twitter before interim coach Ron Bradley officially notified them at a 7:30 a.m. breakfast meeting.
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I know what you mean, but Brian Kelly addressed his players when he left Cincinnati, and they were still mad at him. So you can't win either way. But with that being the case, I would at least say something.
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
Hmm...


Anyone wanna get Booth and Webster on the phone and start their Bradley pitch :mrgreen:
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I would not mind having both of them, they bring more experience in coaching and recruiting then what we have on staff now, it would give us the best chance at landing Chicago area players since Dick Versace left years ago.
 
A number of Chicago high school coaches have been very vocal in condemning the hire of Oliver Purnell by DePaul. They are upset that DePaul didn't hire someone with connections to the Chicago public league coaches.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/2144496,CST-SPT-demonside07.article

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/2145958,depaul-oliver-purnell-hiring-07.article

Today, Oliver Purnell got on the phone and called several CPL coaches to try to introduce himself and begin building a relationship with them.

Or should we call it "kissing up".
 
Da Coach said:
A number of Chicago high school coaches have been very vocal in condemning the hire of Oliver Purnell by DePaul. They are upset that DePaul didn't hire someone with connections to the Chicago public league coaches.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/2144496,CST-SPT-demonside07.article

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/2145958,depaul-oliver-purnell-hiring-07.article

Today, Oliver Purnell got on the phone and called several CPL coaches to try to introduce himself and begin building a relationship with them.

Or should we call it "kissing up".
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Unbelievable the arrogance and classless comments by some of these coaches. I don't know how much more self-serving you can get. Anyone with a brain can see this is just posturing to try and get their palms greased from the start. The Tracy Webster comment is just classic. The few Public League coaches who are actually in it for the kids frown on this type of behavior, but as always it's the vocal minority that gets the attention. Purnell doesn't need the CPL to win at DePaul, just like Lon Kruger didn't need the CPL to win at Illinois. Yes, there's a number of talented kids that play in the CPL, there are many more that play elsewhere. Out of the 4 best college players this year that hail from Chicago (Jon Scheyer, Evan Turner, Demetri McCamey, Sherron Collins), only Sherron Collins is a CPL product. You can even add Sam Maniscalco to that list. There are several more too.
 
I have long heard stories that the only way to get kids out of the Public League in Chicago, is to indeed
kiss some butts big time and grease some palms...or hire one of them as an assistant...
This does explain why we don't get them and the only ones we do have a shot on are the lower tier, under-the-radar kids...

In fact...it's a foregone conclusion that if you are getting the upper tier Chicago kids, then you gotta be playing their game....and look how it's already failed and backfired at other Valley schools in Illinois who paid the price with arrests, players booted, and terribly underperforming & inadequate results.
Personally, I can't see where the Chicago Public school kids that have come to the Valley have actually helped their teams get successful...they might have put up some numbers, but they have hurt their teams.


also - one quote from the link above shows a little of how clueless the writer is...
"When it comes to big men, Andre Brown, Mac Koshwal and Calvin Brock
are about the best the Public League has had to offer in recent years."

Mac Koshwal hasn't played in the CPL since his freshman season in 2004, Calvin Brock is more of a guard and not a "big man", and Andre Brown graduated from Chicago Leo (which is not a public school) way back in 2000!

If they are counting all the way back to 2000, then Aaron Spears (went to Illinois & St. John's), Marcus Arnold (Illinois), Ollie Bailey (Rutgers), Isaiah Martin (Indiana State), Clay Holloway (Louisville), Tyrone Kent (Toledo), DeAndre Thomas (Indiana), Phillip Jackson, Paul Bunch and many others are better big men than this guy mentions...
 
DePaul's Mac Koshwal declares for NBA draft, and cannot pull out as this is the 2nd time he's declared..
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/colleges/post/_/id/343/depauls-koshwal-to-enter-nba-draft



tornado said:
I have long heard stories that the only way to get kids out of the Public League in Chicago, is to indeed
kiss some butts big time and grease some palms...or hire one of them as an assistant.......
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these Chicago Public League coaches are really a bunch of jerks...
now they are acting like a bunch of union bosses making threats at NIU!!

"Chicago Public League furious

The one thing Anderson, DiNunno and Fakuade have in common is where they played in high school:
the Chicago Public League. How these moves will affect NIU??™s recruiting in Chicago remains to be seen.
But according to Carter, who is the president of the Chicago Public League Coaches Association, the CPL is not happy.

???This whole coaching thing, it??™s all about relationships,??? Carter said. ???Now, I??™m not saying I??™m Mr. Big Shot,
but you??™re jerking around two kids from Von Steuben. You??™re jerking around Jake Anderson from Carver.
Obviously, all of the CPL coaches are going to talk about it. I??™m not saying we??™re black balling Northern
or that Northern isn??™t going to get anymore kids [from Chicago] but if someone were to come up to me
asking for a recommendation about what school to go to, I doubt Northern is going to be mentioned.???

Evans was not as calm in reaction to how the CPL is handling the roster shake up.

???We??™re putting the word out on [Patton],??? Evans said. ???Northern will never get a Chicago kid as long
as [Patton]??™s there. There??™s no way in the world.???
http://www.northernstar.info/ArticlePage.php?pk=1991&sectionfrom=4
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
Hmm...


Anyone wanna get Booth and Webster on the phone and start their Bradley pitch :mrgreen:
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David Booth has been rehired at DePaul by Oliver Purnell, as most expected would happen...after all, he's a legend there, their all time leading scorer, and running him out would have clearly gotten Purnell in hot water right off the bat...

However...Purnell hired as actual assistants, the three guys he had at Clemson...and he sorta demoted two of the other three guys...
David Booth, Billy Garrett, and Brandon Bailey -- to lower level positions...
Booth is retained but now fills the newly created (non-coaching) position of...
"Director of Community, Corporate and Professional Relations"

In the end they chose not to retain Tracy Webster who was in the position titled "Interim Head Coach"...
despite the threats coming from Chicago high school coaches saying...
"If they don't keep Tracy Webster, they can't come over here to recruit my kids,"
threatened Simeon coach Robert Smith in an interview with ..the Chicago Sun-Times."
http://media.www.depauliaonline.com...bout.His.Local.Recruiting.Scene-3903466.shtml
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/local/article_15f7f5f0-4d60-11df-b5f6-001cc4c002e0.html

Tracy Webster was 1-15 as interim head coach at DePaul.
 
Da Coach said:
A number of Chicago high school coaches have been very vocal in condemning the hire of Oliver Purnell by DePaul. They are upset that DePaul didn't hire someone with connections to the Chicago public league coaches.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/2144496,CST-SPT-demonside07.article

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/2145958,depaul-oliver-purnell-hiring-07.article

Today, Oliver Purnell got on the phone and called several CPL coaches to try to introduce himself and begin building a relationship with them.

Or should we call it "kissing up".
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I'm certainly not a fan of many CPL coaches, but I think it was a smart move for him to call them. Don't see anything wrong with it. IMO, recruiting takes "kissing up".
 
Chico said:
I'm certainly not a fan of many CPL coaches, but I think it was a smart move for him to call them. Don't see anything wrong with it. IMO, recruiting takes "kissing up".
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It takes building relationships and in most relationships it has to be a two way street to be successful.
 
tornado said:
David Booth has been rehired at DePaul by Oliver Purnell, as most expected would happen...after all, he's a legend there, their all time leading scorer, and running him out would have clearly gotten Purnell in hot water right off the bat...

However...Purnell hired as actual assistants, the three guys he had at Clemson...and he sorta demoted two of the other three guys...
David Booth, Billy Garrett, and Brandon Bailey -- to lower level positions...
Booth is retained but now fills the newly created (non-coaching) position of...
"Director of Community, Corporate and Professional Relations"

In the end they chose not to retain Tracy Webster who was in the position titled "Interim Head Coach"...
despite the threats coming from Chicago high school coaches saying...
"If they don't keep Tracy Webster, they can't come over here to recruit my kids,"
threatened Simeon coach Robert Smith in an interview with ..the Chicago Sun-Times."
http://media.www.depauliaonline.com...bout.His.Local.Recruiting.Scene-3903466.shtml
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/local/article_15f7f5f0-4d60-11df-b5f6-001cc4c002e0.html

Tracy Webster was 1-15 as interim head coach at DePaul.
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Saw David Booth at Madison golf course last Saturday. Looks like he could still play and man can he hit a golf ball.
 
Here are a couple articles from the Chicago media about today's announcements regarding assistant coaches at DePaul.
Again, these are from today, even though the headlines sound exactly the same as they did 2 weeks ago when Purnell was hired as head coach.
It's funny to read the quotes from the Chicago Public League coaches who act like gods and expect the college coaches to worship and pay homage to them-

Public League coaches unhappy with DePaul
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/public-league-coaches-unhappy-with-depaul.html

"My relationship right now is not going to be good with them," said Smith, who has coached Simeon to three state championships in the last five years. "That could change in a month or two months, but right now it is not good.

"They made a decision on what they thought was best. Hopefully it works for them. I'm not in agreement with it, but who am I? They got the people they think will build DePaul up into a national power." 　

"Me, personally, I would have kept the whole staff," said Irvin, the Morgan Park coach whose family owns the influential Mac Irvin Fire AAU program. "Billy and David know the city a bit, but they can't attack it by themselves. Maybe they want to be well-rounded and go to different cities and states to find the pieces to the puzzle they are building.
"Everybody wants to come to Chicago to see basketball. College coaches call me every day and want to talk about the talent in Chicago. It is the mecca of basketball, and it's going to be that way for at least the next 10, 12 years. By doing that, I don't know if DePaul knows that. Maybe they are scared of us?"



DePaul's new staff gets mixed reviews
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=5123374

"It was messed up from the start, but DePaul had a chance to make it right after the hiring of Oliver Purnell, which was a controversial hire, and they could have brought in some of the local Public League coaches to interview," Irvin said. "That's why I'm upset. They're all capable of doing it. The Public League has good basketball and good coaches."

"You want to send the car, but you don't want us to drive the car. That's a Public League thing. You don't want to hire anyone from the Public League, but you want the Public League players."

"I know they're going to be recruiting [Simeon freshman] Jabari [Parker], and that has to do with his family," Smith said. "I'm not going to help them with anything. As far as our gym, they'll have to see us somewhere else. That may change in a month, in a year, but right now, I have a bad taste in my mouth. Right now, it's not good for me. "It's not Public League versus DePaul. It's personally for me having our guys go somewhere that's good for me and for them to be around people they're comfortable with. They don't know those people."

"The guys we got on the Fire for 2011, they're getting recruited by major, big-time schools," Irvin said. "The guys we have on the Fire want to win national championships, not win a game in the Big East. That's what DePaul is looking to do. DePaul wasn't on their list before, and they're not looking at them now.

"DePaul, they've got their work cut for them. [Purnell] felt these [new assistants] can get the job done recruiting wise. We'll have to see. The door is still open to recruiting the guys, but it's going to be hard for the 2011 class."
 
Robert Smith from Simeon...now isn't he the coach that was at Simeon when four of his players had someone else to take the SAT and one of them got caught and cost Memphis 30 wins and a Final Four spot?
And plenty of academic fraud was discovered, improper grade changing for athletes, etc...all of which was quietly swept under the rug when "nobody" could figure out how it happened??
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=134174&postcount=11
http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/1596666,derrick-rose-simeon-grades-cheat-memphis.article
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=134176&postcount=12

yea...this guy is really an upstanding citizen...
 
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