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Ball State denies Manual guard Marvin Jordan

I am sure there are two sides to this story - but it is a tough situation for Marvin...
anyway - the newspaper column had some quotes supposedly from Ball State head coach Billy Taylor...
But - was the Ball State coach quoted directly or were his words reported via hearsay thru the Manual coach?
Wouldn't it be a violaiton of NCAA rules if Taylor spoke to a reporter about Marvin Jordan...who is not signed at Ball State - in fact he isn't "signed" anywhere - as it's too late now to sign?
 
He is better off going to a school that wants him, Ball State has most likely hurt their chances of getting any players out of Peoria by not honoring Jordans commitment.
 
Funny how if a player signed a LOI then wanted to back out the school could fight him tooth and nail and not allow a release of the LOI, but if it is the other way around it seems perfectly fine with no recourse for the player.

What Ball State did was beyond shady. Using a person like they are some pawn. What if Jordan had no other options to go to, did he have any recourse v Ball State... doubtful but I guarantee if he would have played Ball State they would have made his life miserable.

Disgusting.
 
tornado said:
I am sure there are two sides to this story - but it is a tough situation for Marvin...
anyway - the newspaper column had some quotes supposedly from Ball State head coach Billy Taylor...
But - was the Ball State coach quoted directly or were his words reported via hearsay thru the Manual coach?
Wouldn't it be a violaiton of NCAA rules if Taylor spoke to a reporter about Marvin Jordan...who is not signed at Ball State - in fact he isn't "signed" anywhere - as it's too late now to sign?
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I agree, I'm not putting too much stock into this story yet. There's always 2 sides of the story. Whatever, I hope Marvin has a successful college career at Niagara.
 
houstontxbrave said:
Funny how if a player signed a LOI then wanted to back out the school could fight him tooth and nail and not allow a release of the LOI, but if it is the other way around it seems perfectly fine with no recourse for the player.
What Ball State did was beyond shady. Using a person like they are some pawn. What if Jordan had no other options to go to, did he have any recourse v Ball State... doubtful but I guarantee if he would have played Ball State they would have made his life miserable.

Disgusting.
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You bring up some very good valet points! Where's the NCAA Gods when this kind of BS treatment to a young person who did things the right way, up front and put trust in the school, the schools coach's and schools administration:!: Where are we now headed to lawyers and courts:!: This is BS:!: Hopefully there is some recourse here for all the parents and players who have fallen to the dishonest acts of this kind, by schools and their coach's:( I am leading towards thinking that there is a need to disband the NCAA or at least have a partial third party to see that fairness and honesty prevails in ALL MATTER;S that concern student athletes:!: :roll:
 
The Ball State coaching staff actually has strong Peoria ties. Billy Taylor's director of basketball operations is Mitch Gilfillan, who played point guard at Notre Dame in Peoria and then played the same position for Taylor at Lehigh University. Taylor has an outstanding rep as a coach and Gilfillan is supposed to be a terrific kid. Doesn't make this situation any less ugly though.
 
This just goes to show that there needs to be some definite changes in the NCAA. I'm sure there could of been some problems with his grades and such but this just fits the typical athlete-college sport relationship way too well.
 
Like others have stated there is always two sides to the story... Many of you are saying Poor Marvin Jordan... What if he just didn't get things done that he needed too... Like grades, core classes, act score, etc... Why waste your time and deal with the hassel of an athlete who has a hard time in the classroom in high school.

Manual isn't particularly known for its high academic standings...


Not saying its Marvin Jordan's fault or the schools fault there is just alot of things that could have happend....And I am just expressing some of the things that others haven't brought up.
 
midstateknowitall said:
Like others have stated there is always two sides to the story... Many of you are saying Poor Marvin Jordan... What if he just didn't get things done that he needed too... Like grades, core classes, act score, etc... Why waste your time and deal with the hassel of an athlete who has a hard time in the classroom in high school.

Manual isn't particularly known for its high academic standings...


Not saying its Marvin Jordan's fault or the schools fault there is just alot of things that could have happend....And I am just expressing some of the things that others haven't brought up.
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These are great points but I feel like the fact he is going to another comparable D-1 school negates a lot of this.
 
There are basic requirements for D1 athletes. However, each school can set there own requirements to what they want to some sort of degree.

Marvin can get into Niagra could he get into Holy Cross or Lafayette.. still scholarship schools but just take a little more pride in the academic part..

It can be argued both ways all day long..
 
Niagara has had more consistent and high level success than Ball State the past decade.

Sounds like Niagara really wanted him and made it happen, and Luke Dobrich's relationship with Booth paid off big time.

Ball State admins are more strict now because of the academic fraud that has taken place under one of the recent previous coaches.
 
Peoria Manual's Marvin Jordan has done his hometown fans proud...

In his new college team's very first game, Niagara played Wisconsin-Milwaukee...
Marvin started at point guard and had a nice stat line, 10 pts (2-4 from 3pt), 3 rebounds, 5 assists....in his very first college game ever!

Niagara is a very young team playing a lot of minutes with 8 freshmen and sophomores..and 3 of the leading scorers in their first game were all freshmen...

Niagara goes to play Georgia Tech tomorrow night..but I am happy to hear Marvin had such a fine debut -- even tho NU lost!

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http://www.purpleeagles.com/sports/mbball/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=3523
 
it's nice to hear a few mentions here and there (like last night in the Illinois-Texas game regarding DJ Richardson) of Peoria and the talent and players we have ...
but one thing to keep an eye on....note that the many "player rankings" that are coming out barely mention a single name of a single kid from Peoria or area...
Of the nearly 60 kids Chicagohoops lists in their rankings for the 2011 and 2012 classes, only TWO, Max Bielfeldt, who they rank 26th in 2011 and Donivine #22, are from anywhere within 25 miles of us..
Meanwhile THREE different kids at Manual have had several offers and just a couple weeks ago had Big 12/Big Ten in to see them...
 
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