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fansince55 said:
That response right there is one of the problems with Bradley basketball. We have too many die hard fans who accept failure. I stated before the season started that just because the players are a year older doesn't make them better. I said the guards could not shoot. I said that nobody rebounds. Now everyone stands around. Was TB going to do everything? We could play 6 guards and we are still poor shooters and will not rebound. I don't care how much a guard wants to rebound; after a while he will get tired. There's a reason teams don't play 5 guards. We have two good guards coming next year. Who is going to rebound? We have 7 footers that don't even take up space on the bench. Notre Dame has a 6'6" - 6' 8" center that scored 38 points the other night and all I hear is that he is too slow or can't jump. God forbid that Bradley would recruit an inside banger. We play in the MVC not the Big Ten or ACC. OH PLEASE!!!
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Nothing is anyone's fault, excitement is at an all-time high, the program will die if a change is made, you can't expect us to win a team game if one guy is injured, especially against low-major bottom feeders. The spin is coming.
 
fansince55 said:
That response right there is one of the problems with Bradley basketball. We have too many die hard fans who accept failure. I stated before the season started that just because the players are a year older doesn't make them better. I said the guards could not shoot. I said that nobody rebounds. Now everyone stands around. Was TB going to do everything? We could play 6 guards and we are still poor shooters and will not rebound. I don't care how much a guard wants to rebound; after a while he will get tired. There's a reason teams don't play 5 guards. We have two good guards coming next year. Who is going to rebound? We have 7 footers that don't even take up space on the bench. Notre Dame has a 6'6" - 6' 8" center that scored 38 points the other night and all I hear is that he is too slow or can't jump. God forbid that Bradley would recruit an inside banger. We play in the MVC not the Big Ten or ACC. OH PLEASE!!!
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I am one of the problems? Really? I am accepting failure? You must be right...this is all my fault...

You are amazing...
 
Don't worry mrcoachdude. There have always been a tiny minority of people who want to blame real fans like you when things don't please them. In reality, they should thank the "die hard fans" he is referring to, because without their support, Bradley probably wouldn't even be playing Division I sports.
 
fansince55 said:
That response right there is one of the problems with Bradley basketball. We have too many die hard fans who accept failure. I stated before the season started that just because the players are a year older doesn't make them better. I said the guards could not shoot. I said that nobody rebounds. Now everyone stands around. Was TB going to do everything? We could play 6 guards and we are still poor shooters and will not rebound. I don't care how much a guard wants to rebound; after a while he will get tired. There's a reason teams don't play 5 guards. We have two good guards coming next year. Who is going to rebound? We have 7 footers that don't even take up space on the bench. Notre Dame has a 6'6" - 6' 8" center that scored 38 points the other night and all I hear is that he is too slow or can't jump. God forbid that Bradley would recruit an inside banger. We play in the MVC not the Big Ten or ACC. OH PLEASE!!!
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I don't think ANY fans "accept" failure. For the FINAL time...we ALL see it differently...we ALL have varying degrees of tolerance.....we ALL don't have the same makeup and life experiences so we ALL react differently to what transpires.

Some will vent.....some will internalize.....some will see it half full while others see it half empty.

Whats going on ON the court has NOTHING to do with us......what goes on ON the court though has almost everything to do with how we feel and react.

NO ONE feels good about losing to EIU.......period.
 
Well said. Nobody likes losing- The fans, but especialy the players and coaches.
It would be nice if everyone was healthy, and we wouldn't be talking about this. But maybe things happen for a reason. We just have to get through them.
 
For the record....

I'm not happy right now. I want Bradley to be better. I want better results.

But IF...

... we let Coach Les go... and we hire either McClain or (re-hire) Molinari - I'm done with BU hoops.

DONE!

:evil:
 
MacabreMob said:
For the record....

I'm not happy right now. I want Bradley to be better. I want better results.

But IF...

... we let Coach Les go... and we hire either McClain or (re-hire) Molinari - I'm done with BU hoops.

DONE!

:evil:
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If it happend i could maybe see Jerrance Howard or someone of that type coming to BU
 
dogsrus said:
I don't think ANY fans "accept" failure. For the FINAL time...we ALL see it differently...we ALL have varying degrees of tolerance.....we ALL don't have the same makeup and life experiences so we ALL react differently to what transpires.

Some will vent.....some will internalize.....some will see it half full while others see it half empty.

Whats going on ON the court has NOTHING to do with us......what goes on ON the court though has almost everything to do with how we feel and react.

NO ONE feels good about losing to EIU.......period.
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Well put Dru....for the record...I am not a happy BU fan when we lose...to anyone...
 
Braves2011 said:
If it happend i could maybe see Jerrance Howard or someone of that type coming to BU
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Haha, we don't have a chance getting a guy like Jerrance Howard. He is one of the hottest assistant coaches in basketball, and would go absolutely against the hiring practices in place since JoJo got here.
 
brocks said:
I too am embarrassed. As an alum and a booster, I am embarrassed. And you know what's worse? After nearly three decades of living and breathing BU hoops during the winter, I am losing interest.
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I am with you on this....and that is the worst thing of all.
 
MacabreMob said:
For the record....

I'm not happy right now. I want Bradley to be better. I want better results.

But IF...

... we let Coach Les go... and we hire either McClain or (re-hire) Molinari - I'm done with BU hoops.

DONE!

:evil:
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Seriously...The chance of that happening is 0....is this something you would really be scared of?
 
amckillip said:
Haha, we don't have a chance getting a guy like Jerrance Howard. He is one of the hottest assistant coaches in basketball, and would go absolutely against the hiring practices in place since JoJo got here.
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Dan Muller.

I will take the enemy...We need to bring fight back to this program...
 
srw said:
Seriously...The chance of that happening is 0....is this something you would really be scared of?
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No. I'm not scared of that at all.

To think I sit here and say to myself "omg, no - please no - don't fire Les - oh please no - and then please no, don't hire McClain/Molinari - please, please, please NO".

:roll:

Fark that.

I'm just saying, if it happens... I'll likely be more disgusted than anything and find something better to waste my time with through the winter months.

Which btw, this season, I'm already working on fantasy baseball - and I HATE basbeall. :evil:
 
MacabreMob said:
For the record....

I'm not happy right now. I want Bradley to be better. I want better results.

But IF...

... we let Coach Les go... and we hire either McClain or (re-hire) Molinari - I'm done with BU hoops.

DONE!

:evil:
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Hmmm, interesting considering many here wanted McClain over Les in a heartbeat!

Amazing how things change over time!
 
I like Les a ton guys but if there was a change, I'd have to believe with what BU has to offer I'd hope we could attract a great up and coming coach that could attract the best recruits possible that understands how today's kids need to be lured.

I do have a problem with acceptance of 2nd tier recruits in hoping we find some diamonds in the rough. Gonzaga, Butler, Memphis, Xavier and a few others may not have rosters of 5 star players but they each have 1 or 2 prized recruits. I always thought that JL would be able to figure out the recruiting and perhaps our facility held him back but right now and here on out I do not want to hear any excuses. If we had the recruits we thought we had we would have won at least one MVC title lately. I'd have to believe JL is on a short leach and he has to understand after the debacle against EIU. I know if I did not deliver my numbers for 2 quarters in a row I would be on a very slippery slope and I'd have zero problems with being let go. Let's face it unless you have delivered a lifetime of greatness it is all about what have you done lately. TB or no TB we should have a player or two that can step it up against an EIU.
 
SFP said:
I like Les a ton guys but if there was a change, I'd have to believe with what BU has to offer I'd hope we could attract a great up and coming coach that could attract the best recruits possible that understands how today's kids need to be lured.

I do have a problem with acceptance of 2nd tier recruits in hoping we find some diamonds in the rough. Gonzaga, Butler, Memphis, Xavier and a few others may not have rosters of 5 star players but they each have 1 or 2 prized recruits. I always thought that JL would be able to figure out the recruiting and perhaps our facility held him back but right now and here on out I do not want to hear any excuses. If we had the recruits we thought we had we would have won at least one MVC title lately. I'd have to believe JL is on a short leach and he has to understand after the debacle against EIU. I know if I did not deliver my numbers for 2 quarters in a row I would be on a very slippery slope and I'd have zero problems with being let go. Let's face it unless you have delivered a lifetime of greatness it is all about what have you done lately. TB or no TB we should have a player or two that can step it up against an EIU.
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Agreed:!: It's all about delivering, not about like or dislike:!: Good post friend:!:
 
SFP said:
I like Les a ton guys but if there was a change, I'd have to believe with what BU has to offer I'd hope we could attract a great up and coming coach that could attract the best recruits possible that understands how today's kids need to be lured.

I do have a problem with acceptance of 2nd tier recruits in hoping we find some diamonds in the rough. Gonzaga, Butler, Memphis, Xavier and a few others may not have rosters of 5 star players but they each have 1 or 2 prized recruits. I always thought that JL would be able to figure out the recruiting and perhaps our facility held him back but right now and here on out I do not want to hear any excuses. If we had the recruits we thought we had we would have won at least one MVC title lately. I'd have to believe JL is on a short leach and he has to understand after the debacle against EIU. I know if I did not deliver my numbers for 2 quarters in a row I would be on a very slippery slope and I'd have zero problems with being let go. Let's face it unless you have delivered a lifetime of greatness it is all about what have you done lately. TB or no TB we should have a player or two that can step it up against an EIU.
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Despite what some would have you believe, BU would attract a ton of very capable and qualified candidates. We had capable and qualified candidates in 2002, and we didn't have brand new facilities dedicated to men's basketball at the time. Unfortunately I think the problem would be the people making the hire, not the people applying for the job. I think I am in the majority when I say I would rather just win so we don't have to go through this or have these discussions.
 
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