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NCAA's 6th year waiver

tornado

tornado

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Sam Singh got what is called a 6th year waiver...it is allowed infrequently by NCAA and almost exclusively when a player has had two years lost to injury...

Here's a thorough explanation of the 6th year waiver..
All D-I players get 5 years to complete their eligiblity but on rare occasion if a kid requests a 6th year is can be granted...
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=101445&postcount=22

I have done some digging and can come up with only ONE example of a kid who got the 6th year waiver but who lost one season due to D-I transfer.
(although he claimed an injury during that season also)
Can anyone else recall who that one exception was??
 
So does this mean that the chances of Taylor Brown getting a sixth year of eligibility are really slim? (assuming that he is medically cleared to play basketball again).
 
Yes. So if he does not play this season, there is a good chance he may lose this year entirely.
 
I guess that if Taylor is medically cleared to play in early February, he'd have to decide if he wants to risk having the NCAA deny his request for an extra year of eligibility against playing the final few games of what would turn out to be his junior season.
 
BU FAMILY said:
So does this mean that the chances of Taylor Brown getting a sixth year of eligibility are really slim? (assuming that he is medically cleared to play basketball again).
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From what I heard Taylor will not stay more then 1 more year as he wants to pursue a pro career, if he gets cleared he may as well play.
 
According to TB's profile page on bubraves.com, he didn't play during his one year at Bevill State CC because of an injury. So, would he not somehow be able to file for the 6th year based on that injury?
 
A player can probably try to appeal for a 6th year, regardless of the circumstances. It is just very unlikely the NCAA will grant it.
 
If the NCAA is unlikely to grant him a 6th year of eligibility, Taylor might as well play the final few regular season games and help us make a deep run at Arch Madness!
 
BU FAMILY said:
If the NCAA is unlikely to grant him a 6th year of eligibility, Taylor might as well play the final few regular season games and help us make a deep run at Arch Madness!
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Yeah...I'm sure that a guy who hasn't even been allowed to do something as strenuous as walking at a brisk pace for 90 days is gonna be able to step right in and lead the league doormat to glory in the conference tournament...good one.
 
ER3 said:
Yeah...I'm sure that a guy who hasn't even been allowed to do something as strenuous as walking at a brisk pace for 90 days is gonna be able to step right in and lead the league doormat to glory in the conference tournament...good one.
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I'll try it without the sarcasm. I think by the time Taylor returns, he would needs a couple of weeks just to get back to any kind of significant playing shape, maybe longer, and by that time the season would be over.
 
This is awful for TB, because I am not even sure the NCAA would consider this an "injury"


And the other point said....6 years of college is a long time...He will make money, although Euro's.

That said, its hard to imagine him helping too much when he hasn't touched any cardio in 12 weeks
 
tornado said:
Sam Singh got what is called a 6th year waiver...it is allowed infrequently by NCAA and almost exclusively when a player has had two years lost to injury...

Here's a thorough explanation of the 6th year waiver..
All D-I players get 5 years to complete their eligiblity but on rare occasion if a kid requests a 6th year is can be granted...
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=101445&postcount=22

I have done some digging and can come up with only ONE example of a kid who got the 6th year waiver but who lost one season due to D-I transfer.
(although he claimed an injury during that season also)
Can anyone else recall who that one exception was??
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You didn't specify that it had to be a basketball player, so I will go with Jon Beutjer:

http://www.fightingillini.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/beutjer_jon00.html


2001: Sat out the 2001 season after transferring from the University of Iowa.

2003: Started the first seven games before a back injury forced him to miss the remainder of the season.

2004: Granted sixth year of eligibility by the NCAA.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1716551

Beutjer, who started seven games last season before being sidelined by a back injury, had asked for the extra year before last season started because of the circumstances surrounding his transfer from Iowa in 2001.

Beutjer began his college career with the Hawkeyes in 1999, but left the school after sustaining a concussion during a fight with his teammate and roommate over payment of a cable television bill. Beutjer said he was disappointed with how Iowa coaches handled the situation.
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Da Coach said:
A player can probably try to appeal for a 6th year, regardless of the circumstances. It is just very unlikely the NCAA will grant it.
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read the rules, I have cited them precisely and they are there for you to read...

in order to get a medical redshirt, you have to be on the team, playing or practicing and suffer a season ending injury.

Taylor Brown never dressed nor played at Bevill State, and if he claims to have a season ending injury, he might have a very hard time convincing the NCAA as he left Bevill State before their basketball season even began!

You are free to still think the NCAA might take pity and allow a waiver even though the rules don't appear to allow for it, but you sure have a whole lot more faith in the NCAA than I do..


BTW -- the only basketball player I can find who might be an exception to the 6th year waiver rule and who used a year to transfer but still got his 6th year was...
Missouri State's Spencer Laurie...
His career spanned SIX years in college...
2003-2004 21 games @ Mizzou
2004-2005 7 games @ Mizzou then injury - granted redshirt
2005-2006 0 games, transferred and sat out at Missouri State - a 2nd "redshirt year"
2006-2007 33 games at MSU
2007-2008 33 games at MSU
2008-2009 27 games at MSU - was granted the waiver to play this one extra, 6th year...it was somewhat unexpected
as I recall even the Missouri press was kinda surprised when NCAA granted it.

http://www.missouristatebears.com/V...4&DB_OEM_ID=13800&ATCLID=706962&Q_SEASON=2008
 
tornado said:
read the rules, I have cited them precisely and they are there for you to read...

in order to get a medical redshirt, you have to be on the team, playing or practicing and suffer a season ending injury.

Taylor Brown never dressed nor played at Bevill State, and if he claims to have a season ending injury, he might have a very hard time convincing the NCAA as he left Bevill State before their basketball season even began!
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If you look at it that way T, then his time at Bevill wouldn't have even counted against his eligibility at all. A players clock doesn't start ticking until he is actually a member of the team. For example, I was at Bradley for 5 years but I never played any sport, so if by some miracle I suddenly gained athletic ability, I would still have my full eligibilty intact to go back to school and play for BU or any other school.

If the NCAA rules that his injury at Bevill State doesn't count as him being part of their team as you say, then it would mean he never used that year of eligibility. If they rule that he was part of the team at Bevill State, then the injury would qualify him for the sixth year waiver.
 
amettrick said:
If you look at it that way T, then his time at Bevill wouldn't have even counted against his eligibility at all. A players clock doesn't start ticking until he is actually a member of the team. For example, I was at Bradley for 5 years but I never played any sport, so if by some miracle I suddenly gained athletic ability, I would still have my full eligibilty intact to go back to school and play for BU or any other school.

If the NCAA rules that his injury at Bevill State doesn't count as him being part of their team as you say, then it would mean he never used that year of eligibility. If they rule that he was part of the team at Bevill State, then the injury would qualify him for the sixth year waiver.
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I think the clock starts as soon as you begin college as a full time student. If you take less than 12 hours then it does not start but then you are not considered a full time student and thus ineligible to play a college sport.
 
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