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channelsurfing.net seized by the government!

I like to watch other games, particularly NFL and college basketball, that aren't on locally on channelsurfing, I don't like this one bit. I don't want to have to pay for them, cause I wouldn't be able to.
 
BUfan14 said:
I like to watch other games, particularly NFL and college basketball, that aren't on locally on channelsurfing, I don't like this one bit. I don't want to have to pay for them, cause I wouldn't be able to.
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And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Channelsurfing there for the purpose of people who pay for high speed internet but may not have cable or satellite? Why should we be punished for paying 20 to 30 bucks a month for high speed internet?!
 
Can't wait till the Gov/Content Owners try to track down and charge people who have previously watched broadcasts on ChannelSurfing.com:!: :badgrin:
 
Absolutely ridiculous! I'm so angry at the US govt. right now it's not even funny. HOW could you tread on not only the rights of the press, but overstep the rulings of ANOTHER COUNTRY'S national court system!?!?! What absolute arrogance.
 
I was at the game, so I had no clue that any of this went down. :) But to play devil's advocate here, you can still follow Bradley hoops if you:

A. Pay the BU.tv subscription (it was free today). This is notwithstanding the complaints folks have had, but it is legal.

B. If you live in Peoria, can watch the games on WTVP. And if you have cable, can watch them when they appear on MVC-TV/ESPN/CBS (if they one day make it that far) :D

C. Listen to the radio stream online. Sure you can't see the plays, but Snell does a nice job of describing the action on the court.

Just sayin'
 
theBUer said:
I was at the game, so I had no clue that any of this went down. :) But to play devil's advocate here, you can still follow Bradley hoops if you:

A. Pay the BU.tv subscription (it was free today). This is notwithstanding the complaints folks have had, but it is legal.

B. If you live in Peoria, can watch the games on WTVP. And if you have cable, can watch them when they appear on MVC-TV/ESPN/CBS (if they one day make it that far) :D

C. Listen to the radio stream online. Sure you can't see the plays, but Snell does a nice job of describing the action on the court.

Just sayin'
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It's not just Bradley, that site was the only way I could watch the Premier League (NOT Man United), it would have been one of the only ways to watch the Bears in Oklahoma, and on top of all that, smaller schools and ALL types of sporting events are more easily showcased to widen their worldwide audience. The world does not only consist of BU basketball and I'm sure that the others on this board are NOT directing their frustrations at not being able to watch Bradley on there (they rarely are anyway)
 
Considering the site was pretty much illegal, I thought it was inevitable.

I envision ESPN will eventually grow large enough via ESPN3.com to take on all of this though.
 
ser_solace said:
Considering the site was pretty much illegal, I thought it was inevitable.

I envision ESPN will eventually grow large enough via ESPN3.com to take on all of this though.
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In the article, it is stated that it was NOT illegal, it was simply a collection of links (local streams available to the public, from servers in another country, etc.) that the site provided. Channelsurfing did nothing wrong, they should have gotten the streamers. "Don't shoot the messenger"
 
BUFanatic said:
In the article, it is stated that it was NOT illegal, it was simply a collection of links (local streams available to the public, from servers in another country, etc.) that the site provided. Channelsurfing did nothing wrong, they should have gotten the streamers. "Don't shoot the messenger"
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Then if they target the streamers, there would be no channelsurfing.net. They were accessories to theft.
 
theBUer said:
Then if they target the streamers, there would be no channelsurfing.net. They were accessories to theft.
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First part agreed, but the people that were streaming weren't really "thieves" as the servers were located in countries where the channels were free to stream. But eh, it's a legal debate that could go on for days. Hopefully they'll go live again soon. They were trying to get another domain (posted via twitter). AND they tread on some country's toes, I just can't get over how *****ic my country acted.... :p Claims of "Homeland Security Threats". HOW are sporting events a threat to "Homeland Security" other than by hacking? *Sigh
 
BUFanatic said:
First part agreed, but the people that were streaming weren't really "thieves" as the servers were located in countries where the channels were free to stream. But eh, it's a legal debate that could go on for days. Hopefully they'll go live again soon. They were trying to get another domain (posted via twitter). AND they tread on some country's toes, I just can't get over how *****ic my country acted.... :p Claims of "Homeland Security Threats". HOW are sporting events a threat to "Homeland Security" other than by hacking? *Sigh
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Hmm,

Can someone help me out with this? Even if the sporting events were streamed off of servers in another country, wouldn't the copyright laws from the country where the sporting events take place take precedent over it being streamed in a different country? That is, if an NBA game is on a server in a foreign country where the copyright laws are different, wouldn't it still be illegal because the NBA is copyrighted in the U.S. and those copyright laws supersede those of the host country of the servers hosting the games? :confused:
 
theBUer said:
Hmm,

Can someone help me out with this? Even if the sporting events were streamed off of servers in another country, wouldn't the copyright laws from the country where the sporting events take place take precedent over it being streamed in a different country? That is, if an NBA game is on a server in a foreign country where the copyright laws are different, wouldn't it still be illegal because the NBA is copyrighted in the U.S. and those copyright laws supersede those of the host country of the servers hosting the games? :confused:
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If (in the case) legal action had been taken against the entity streaming the events and the entity had been branded "legal" (as the case with the site in Spain), the ruling of the State's court SHOULD take precedence over the entity unless that entity owned international broadcasting rights in that country. So to answer, I believe that the laws of the host country SHOULD supersede the copyright laws. It will certainly be quite a battle for the AG's office. G'luck Holder lol
 
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The company that administers the domain is in the US, but the rest of it is Spanish. So its really a pretty big stretch to snatch up the site. The most disconcerting part is simply the lack of due process in my opinion. If its illegal, its illegal - but shutting down the site without having proved its illegal isn't right. Getting rid huge chunks of that whole department (Homeland security) is a nice way to cut into those budget issues of ours heh. Justice department is probably a keeper.
 
CzechBrave said:
The company that administers the domain is in the US, but the rest of it is Spanish. So its really a pretty big stretch to snatch up the site. The most disconcerting part is simply the lack of due process in my opinion. If its illegal, its illegal - but shutting down the site without having proved its illegal isn't right. Getting rid huge chunks of that whole department (Homeland security) is a nice way to cut into those budget issues of ours heh. Justice department is probably a keeper.
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+1! HAHA! By the way, I just found out that they have re-registered as: channelsurf.eu The world is all good again! lol
 
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