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Forget Roth, offer Sean Johnson

Not sure it matters who was guarding Johnson....he was unbelievable against Cole at the basket and was lighting it up with a hand in his face and a forearm in his chest.....it was a special night and one of the best performances I have seen from a high schooler....
 
Just a followup on Washington's Sean Johnson...who had a few soft offers from D-I but instead went to Illinois Wesleyan..

Sean is a senior, but I have thought all along he'd have made a fine mid-major shooter -- along the lines of Johnny Moran from UNI or Aaron Zobrist..

Sean is now 1/2 way thru his senior season...
He is averaging 18 ppg currently, and has scored almost 1400 career points, and is on target to finish his career around 1700.
 
Just a followup on Washington's Sean Johnson...who had a few soft offers from D-I but instead went to Illinois Wesleyan..

Sean is a senior, but I have thought all along he'd have made a fine mid-major shooter -- along the lines of Johnny Moran from UNI or Aaron Zobrist..

Sean is now 1/2 way thru his senior season...
He is averaging 18 ppg currently, and has scored almost 1400 career points, and is on target to finish his career around 1700.

fine young man and a warrior on the court
 
Just a followup on Washington's Sean Johnson...who had a few soft offers from D-I but instead went to Illinois Wesleyan..

Sean is a senior, but I have thought all along he'd have made a fine mid-major shooter -- along the lines of Johnny Moran from UNI or Aaron Zobrist..

Sean is now 1/2 way thru his senior season...
He is averaging 18 ppg currently, and has scored almost 1400 career points, and is on target to finish his career around 1700.

Sounds like he made the right choice.
 
Sounds like he made the right choice.

Maybe so, but also proof that we wouldn't know how to recruit a shooter if they were right under our nose....

Oh wait, he was....


This goes back to the whole statement of the State Tournament being in Peoria will help Jim Les recruit...


Can you think of more than 2 BU has recruited from this?!
 
Maybe so, but also proof that we wouldn't know how to recruit a shooter if they were right under our nose....

Oh wait, he was....


This goes back to the whole statement of the State Tournament being in Peoria will help Jim Les recruit...


Can you think of more than 2 BU has recruited from this?!

yup -- tho you'll discount one or two of them ...
Tony Bennett - Westinghouse, Daniel Ruffin - Central, Ryan Thornton, and possibly Jordan Prosser who was at Eureka as an 8th grader in 2005.
 
This goes back to the whole statement of the State Tournament being in Peoria will help Jim Les recruit...


Can you think of more than 2 BU has recruited from this?!

So what is the definition of success on how many players we should have gotten from the state tournament teams? Let me guess, a few more than we have actually landed?
 
yup -- tho you'll discount one or two of them ...
Tony Bennett - Westinghouse, Daniel Ruffin - Central, Ryan Thornton

But didnt we get Bennett from a JUCO? I would argue that Ruffin was the only one that could be a direct result from the state finals in Peoria. Yes, we may have recruited heavily, but he was the only one we landed, IMO. Yes I know Prosser, but he still has a ways to go, he is on the upswing though which is good.

Didnt Thornton flop at UWM and then transfer somewhere?
 
Thornton transferred to BU from UW-M but never played at BU

Tony Bennett did indeed come to BU from juco but said several times that his familiarity with BU and the fact that he had always known of and heard good things about BU since his Westinghouse squad won the state title in 2002 - were factors in why he decided on BU over the objections he was inundated with by some of his Chicago people.

one of the articles after the 2006 Sweet Sixteen said playing in Peoria was a great memory for him, and this article also hints that Bradley had the lead for Tony's services right out of the block..
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2005-12-25/sports/0512250208_1_carver-arena-bradley-tony-bennett

The March, 2006 article is no longer available online but I have a saved copy...
here are a few clips......
"I've been marked as a failure all my life," Bennett said. "It just feels good
to actually have some success at doing something. My high school coach told me
I was making a huge mistake by coming to Bradley. Now look at me. It's huge for me.
It's more than basketball right now."

...Chris Head..tried to "talk Tony out of Bradley"
He wasn't a starter at Westinghouse..
"I'm a project kid," Tony Bennett continued. "I wasn't supposed to make it far.
For me to get this success with my team . . . there is only a handful of people that
actually thought I'd make it this far. They're sitting at home and they're crying for me, too."

"...Twenty, 30 years from now, ... we'll talk about this."
 
Thanks for clearing that up Tornado, I wasnt actually sure. Still, for a 9 year run for JL, 3 contributors from a basketball rich state isnt that good of a ratio if you ask me if the state finals were supposed to lure recruits.
 
I don't think you're being fair...

Jim Les has had a bunch of instate & local kids....
Donivine Stewart, Dunson, Sammy, Prosser, Dyricus, Ruffin, Crouch, Danny Adams, Bennett, Rembert, Battle, Cellus....
also - several other walk ons who help you in practices...

Molinari did not have as many instate kids and almost no local guys...
 
Bennett doesn't count, Prosser never made State, and I forgot about Ruff...


So in reality we have two players - Ruff and DSE that have played on the floor they ended up at...


I was more so getting at the fact that there are guys like Fay, Richard, Rice, and plenty more outside of the last 2-3 years we've never even remotely been tied to...

The tournament being in Peoria has helped us no more than if it were in anywhere else in the State...
 
Bennett is probably the best example -- had he not known of BU and spent that weekend in Peoria with Westinghouse he'd have never considered BU nor Peoria


...and YOUR OWN original statement was...
" the State Tournament being in Peoria will help Jim Les recruit..."
..and you said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about narrowing the field further to recruiting and landing only the players who played on the court for a team in March Madness.
So going by YOUR own definition, I would include Prosser as he was there, had friends on the Eureka team, has great memories of the weekend and was definitely influenced by it.


Guys like Fay were already LONG committed and signed before they ever had an inkling their team was going to play at Carver in the State Finals,
so those guys can hardly be considered "failures" since they weren't recruitable at the time they at Carver during Madness.
 
Bennett is probably the best example -- had he not known of BU and spent that weekend in Peoria with Westinghouse he'd have never considered BU nor Peoria


...and YOUR OWN original statement was...
" the State Tournament being in Peoria will help Jim Les recruit..."
..and you said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about narrowing the field further to recruiting and landing only the players who played on the court for a team in March Madness.
So going by YOUR own definition, I would include Prosser as he was there, had friends on the Eureka team, has great memories of the weekend and was definitely influenced by it.


Guys like Fay were already LONG committed and signed before they ever had an inkling their team was going to play at Carver in the State Finals,
so those guys can hardly be considered "failures" since they weren't recruitable at the time they at Carver during Madness.

No, actually it does make my point...

Who have we been in on that played here at State?


I'm pretty sure that original statement wasn't made by anyone who said

"well gee golly gosh, I think the State tournament will help me recruit, but hey, none of those guys have to even be there for that to make any sense"


No, it was that players that came down here would like the court/atmosphere/area and what not and end up at Bradley...

So maybe Tony Bennett is about it...


Otherwise that statement he originally made holds zero water...
 
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