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Star Recruit OJ Mayo

If he makes it thru that 1 year of college that is. Mary J can be a fairly minor offense but OJ seems to have a bit of a selfish attitude. Almost reminds me of Kobe. Plus plopping him in the media spotlight of SoCal never helps. As for the other big 2 players going thru this first trial of 1 year. Oden and Durant. Oden is good but I really like how Durant plays. I think he helped himself as far as draft ranking compared to what he would of gone straight from high school. He's just incredible compared to how "skinny" he is. Reminds me of a young KG.

Jason
 
You assume wrong.
Has Ray Brown been arrested, charged, or convicted of anything?
The answer is no. I am sure he regrets what he did but he broke no laws, and of course the law enforcement people know it too, that's why there have been no arrests or even an inquiry.
Have you ever wondered why he hasn't?
Are you even aware that Ray Brown has NOT broken any laws.
It is not an offense to test positive, the offense is when you are caught with it in your possession.

May seem like a fine line to you, but wake me up when RB gets arrested, gets a criminal record, or even if he gets a suspension for hitting a ref, or any of the number of other things Mayo was suspended for in the past at each of the past couple schools he's been at while doing whatever he has to do to try to grab headlines.
 
A quote from Mayo's future college coach Tim Floyd at USC.
"???‚¬?“I???‚¬?„?m not concerned because I think part of the reason O.J. picked our university was because of the support system we have.."
So he isn't concerned?
 
And LA has all those great and glamorous "rehab facilities", so I guess I wouldn't be too worried either. :roll:
 
Stat Freak said:
You assume wrong.
Has Ray Brown been arrested, charged, or convicted of anything?
The answer is no. I am sure he regrets what he did but he broke no laws, and of course the law enforcement people know it too, that's why there have been no arrests or even an inquiry.
Have you ever wondered why he hasn't?
Are you even aware that Ray Brown has NOT broken any laws.
It is not an offense to test positive, the offense is when you are caught with it in your possession.

May seem like a fine line to you, but wake me up when RB gets arrested, gets a criminal record, or even if he gets a suspension for hitting a ref, or any of the number of other things Mayo was suspended for in the past at each of the past couple schools he's been at while doing whatever he has to do to try to grab headlines.
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Please tell me you DO NOT HAVE children. With that type of attitude, we can only hope not.

THEY BOTH DID MARIJUANA!!! There is NO contention about either case. Ray Brown did not get arrested, that DOES NOT MEAN he did not break any laws. He could not be convicted, which is the only reason he was not charged. Also, there are more convictions than in a court of law. Yes, RB was charged with using pot and convicted by the NCAA. He was sentenced to losing one year of eligibility. If you don't think that is a law he broke, please go read the definition of a law. He broke no city, state or national law, but that doesn't mean he didn't break a law of the NCAA.

I supposed OJ Simpson is innocent too because he was acquitted.

I agree RB is no OJ Mayo, not even close. But this thread was about Mayo using pot and then you said OJ = loser. So are you saying if all OJ Mayo did was use pot he would not be a loser? Or only if he got caught by the police?

TB
 
I find it odd that if the thread is about OJ, then why did you bring up RB?

Mayo clearly has problems and issues, behavioral problems, was
accused of assault while in high school in Cincy, seems to transfer
schools to avoid suspensions, and now gets cited while cruising in
a Cadillac, arousing suspicion in police who find them packing dope.
While I might not go so far as to label the kid a loser, I think his
issues and attitude are in a different universe from Ray Brown and
there is no comparison.
When this kind of thing happened to a UNC recruit a couple years
ago, they revoked their scholarship offer.
Funny how the USC coach has already gone on record saying this
doesn't bother him at all, of course he knows how OJ can score!
 
As long as you are playing thought police Tampa, consider this.
You have made your judgement on Ray Brown based on one and only one incident regarding his behavior ever.
He has had absolutely no recurring plattern of violations, suspensions, and anti-social behavior, and he's been a model citizen otherwise, never guilty of any other legal or team violation.
Not the case with OJ Mayo, but that won't stop talent craved coaches from recruiting him, it just gives a little more abundant examples of his behavior from which to draw conclusions.
I believe I still stand by my opinion despite your objection, your honor.
 
Never mind, OJ has a big game coming up Wednesday for Huntington, and the good ole police of Huntington have decided to drop the charges just in time for OJ to try to win the ole town a state championship.
 
tornado said:
When this kind of thing happened to a UNC recruit a couple years
ago, they revoked their scholarship offer.
Funny how the USC coach has already gone on record saying this
doesn't bother him at all, of course he knows how OJ can score!
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That was JamesOn Curry who then got a scholarship from Eddie Sutton at Ok St. and was one of their best players this year. Just another bad example for kids that if you are involved in questionable activities, it doesnt matter as long as your a star athelete, you will still get a chance to play.
 
Statistics

Statistics

TampaBrave said:
Stat Freak said:
You assume wrong.
Has Ray Brown been arrested, charged, or convicted of anything?
The answer is no. I am sure he regrets what he did but he broke no laws, and of course the law enforcement people know it too, that's why there have been no arrests or even an inquiry.
Have you ever wondered why he hasn't?
Are you even aware that Ray Brown has NOT broken any laws.
It is not an offense to test positive, the offense is when you are caught with it in your possession.

May seem like a fine line to you, but wake me up when RB gets arrested, gets a criminal record, or even if he gets a suspension for hitting a ref, or any of the number of other things Mayo was suspended for in the past at each of the past couple schools he's been at while doing whatever he has to do to try to grab headlines.
Click to expand...

Please tell me you DO NOT HAVE children. With that type of attitude, we can only hope not.

THEY BOTH DID MARIJUANA!!! There is NO contention about either case. Ray Brown did not get arrested, that DOES NOT MEAN he did not break any laws. He could not be convicted, which is the only reason he was not charged. Also, there are more convictions than in a court of law. Yes, RB was charged with using pot and convicted by the NCAA. He was sentenced to losing one year of eligibility. If you don't think that is a law he broke, please go read the definition of a law. He broke no city, state or national law, but that doesn't mean he didn't break a law of the NCAA.

I supposed OJ Simpson is innocent too because he was acquitted.

I agree RB is no OJ Mayo, not even close. But this thread was about Mayo using pot and then you said OJ = loser. So are you saying if all OJ Mayo did was use pot he would not be a loser? Or only if he got caught by the police?

TB
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I will not argue that what RB did was wrong....and he was punished!

My question is: If every college randomly tested their student body for drugs what percentage would test positive?

Second question: What percentage of college students have tried drugs while in college?

I would bet that the percentage for athletes is much lower in both cases than for the entire student body. And, when an athlete is caught he is punished more severely than the rest of the student population.

Not sure what my point is, but I thought I'd throw this out 8)
 
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Braves4Life said:
TampaBrave said:
Stat Freak said:
You assume wrong.
Has Ray Brown been arrested, charged, or convicted of anything?
The answer is no. I am sure he regrets what he did but he broke no laws, and of course the law enforcement people know it too, that's why there have been no arrests or even an inquiry.
Have you ever wondered why he hasn't?
Are you even aware that Ray Brown has NOT broken any laws.
It is not an offense to test positive, the offense is when you are caught with it in your possession.

May seem like a fine line to you, but wake me up when RB gets arrested, gets a criminal record, or even if he gets a suspension for hitting a ref, or any of the number of other things Mayo was suspended for in the past at each of the past couple schools he's been at while doing whatever he has to do to try to grab headlines.
Click to expand...

Please tell me you DO NOT HAVE children. With that type of attitude, we can only hope not.

THEY BOTH DID MARIJUANA!!! There is NO contention about either case. Ray Brown did not get arrested, that DOES NOT MEAN he did not break any laws. He could not be convicted, which is the only reason he was not charged. Also, there are more convictions than in a court of law. Yes, RB was charged with using pot and convicted by the NCAA. He was sentenced to losing one year of eligibility. If you don't think that is a law he broke, please go read the definition of a law. He broke no city, state or national law, but that doesn't mean he didn't break a law of the NCAA.

I supposed OJ Simpson is innocent too because he was acquitted.

I agree RB is no OJ Mayo, not even close. But this thread was about Mayo using pot and then you said OJ = loser. So are you saying if all OJ Mayo did was use pot he would not be a loser? Or only if he got caught by the police?

TB
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I will not argue that what RB did was wrong....and he was punished!

My question is: If every college randomly tested their student body for drugs what percentage would test positive?

Second question: What percentage of college students have tried drugs while in college?

I would bet that the percentage for athletes is much lower in both cases than for the entire student body. And, when an athlete is caught he is punished more severely than the rest of the student population.

Not sure what my point is, but I thought I'd throw this out 8)
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Tampa Brave, I can't believe what I am reading from you! Do you really think that breaking an NCAA rule is equivalent to breaking the law?
If that were true, every time an NCAA player was called for travelling, or whistled for a foul, they would have to fine them or put them in jail! Breaking NCAA rules is nothing even close to violating the laws of a city, county, state, or federal government. That's all RB is guilty of- breaking an NCAA rule, and he is paying the price for it. It is not equivalent to being a criminal with a conviction. Not even close. He is a good kid who made a mistake. One that most people do and get away with. He will be a better person because of what's happened, but he has broken no laws.
 
Speaking of breaking laws....does anyone recall a situation recently in Champaign where some Illini basketball players were drinking underage, and driving drunk, committing improper lane usage, leaving the scene of an accident, and numerous other violations, both specifically charged and some which were ethical lapses tho not charged.
Did anyone other than I note how quickly everything seemed to be swept under the rug and never brought up again?
What happened to all those other underage basketball players who were named in the news stories,
and who broke team rules, defied the head coach's instructions, and created a legal and public relations nightmare on top of several other lawbreaking instances among other players like Spears, Head, McBride, McBride again, Pruitt, etc?
How come the rest of those lawbreakers, including Brian Carlwell himself who was drinking while underage, all got off so incredibly scot-free and the entire university acts as though nothnig happened?

Where is the discipline?
Where is the accountability?
Why did Jamar disappear for an hour and a half after the accident only to reemerge when Coach McClain drove him to the hospital to get an alcohol level.
Why were we fed incorrect/false information that Carlwell's blood alcohol level was zero, when it is now being revealed that not only was he drinking, but he was "blasted"?
Why were we told that Jamar didn't have a cel phone when Jamar's grandfather reports Jamar used his cel phone that very evening to text message his grandfather?
And why is the testimony of the players that they did NOT come back out from the party to the car where Carlwell was injured, when the women witnesses in the parking lot state unequivocally that they did come back out to the car, then left again and returned to the "beer and tequila" party?

Why am I the only one who seems interested in knowing that the facts are not hidden here?
Never mind.......the reason is the same as why nobody will ever investigate USC and the massive violations that occurred when Reggie Bush lived in a luixury home paid for by his future agent.
 
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Da Coach said:
Braves4Life said:
TampaBrave said:
Stat Freak said:
You assume wrong.
Has Ray Brown been arrested, charged, or convicted of anything?
The answer is no. I am sure he regrets what he did but he broke no laws, and of course the law enforcement people know it too, that's why there have been no arrests or even an inquiry.
Have you ever wondered why he hasn't?
Are you even aware that Ray Brown has NOT broken any laws.
It is not an offense to test positive, the offense is when you are caught with it in your possession.

May seem like a fine line to you, but wake me up when RB gets arrested, gets a criminal record, or even if he gets a suspension for hitting a ref, or any of the number of other things Mayo was suspended for in the past at each of the past couple schools he's been at while doing whatever he has to do to try to grab headlines.
Click to expand...

Please tell me you DO NOT HAVE children. With that type of attitude, we can only hope not.

THEY BOTH DID MARIJUANA!!! There is NO contention about either case. Ray Brown did not get arrested, that DOES NOT MEAN he did not break any laws. He could not be convicted, which is the only reason he was not charged. Also, there are more convictions than in a court of law. Yes, RB was charged with using pot and convicted by the NCAA. He was sentenced to losing one year of eligibility. If you don't think that is a law he broke, please go read the definition of a law. He broke no city, state or national law, but that doesn't mean he didn't break a law of the NCAA.

I supposed OJ Simpson is innocent too because he was acquitted.

I agree RB is no OJ Mayo, not even close. But this thread was about Mayo using pot and then you said OJ = loser. So are you saying if all OJ Mayo did was use pot he would not be a loser? Or only if he got caught by the police?

TB
Click to expand...


I will not argue that what RB did was wrong....and he was punished!

My question is: If every college randomly tested their student body for drugs what percentage would test positive?

Second question: What percentage of college students have tried drugs while in college?

I would bet that the percentage for athletes is much lower in both cases than for the entire student body. And, when an athlete is caught he is punished more severely than the rest of the student population.

Not sure what my point is, but I thought I'd throw this out 8)
Click to expand...

Tampa Brave, I can't believe what I am reading from you! Do you really think that breaking an NCAA rule is equivalent to breaking the law?
If that were true, every time an NCAA player was called for travelling, or whistled for a foul, they would have to fine them or put them in jail! Breaking NCAA rules is nothing even close to violating the laws of a city, county, state, or federal government. That's all RB is guilty of- breaking an NCAA rule, and he is paying the price for it. It is not equivalent to being a criminal with a conviction. Not even close. He is a good kid who made a mistake. One that most people do and get away with. He will be a better person because of what's happened, but he has broken no laws.
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Alright... I am no Lawyer here, BUT NCAA rules are no where near as serious as laws. HOWEVER, Ray Brown DID break the Law - no where in the United States is it legal to smoke marijuana. The difference is OJ got caught, Ray Brown did not. So while it's much easier to get irate about another school's prize recruit than your own, any rants about OJ Mayo apply equally to RayRay as far as the Marijuana incident is concerned.
 
question, if Ray Brown is given some brownies, and eats them, not knowing they are made with marijuana, then he goes to the hospital and tests positive for marijuana, then
has he broken the law?

According to you he has, but the truth is that he has not.
It is against the law to be caught in possession of marijuana, but it is NOT and nowhere ever has been a violation of the law to simply test positive for it, and you cannot find a single such case prosecuted anywhere in America.
To be guilty of breaking the law, the violator must be caught with it in his possession.

(ps-- I know it's against the law to operate a motor vehicle while under the influence, but the violation there is the operation of the vehicle NOT the consumption of the marijuana, so that is not such an example.)
 
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