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'What should "O" do?'

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Fetz86

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Eldridge says he is facing a crisis and is seeking peoples opinions on if he should transfer out of isu or not. I told him take the best bcs offer that fits him. :D
 
here is a topic on the ISU board where a poster is imploring ISU fans to go to the site where Osiris has created a Facebook group (I don't know what it is or where to find it) where he has asked people to tell him what he should do. King-O has asked:
"HELP ME COME TO A CONCLUSION" and "CRISIS SITUATION FOR ME".
Apparently over 100 people have joined and left advice. There is even an snub about a Bradley fan who left some advice. Fetz, was that you?

http://www.redbirdfan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6817&sid=98b9d4fe34668597e7aea73cba65b114
 
Hilarious. If this is for real, and OE is asking for input from Facebook visitors, then I have to think he's leaving and all the begging by fans isn't going to change that. Maybe if a few more of those fans begging for him to return would have bought tickets and showed up at games it might be different!
Does anyone have a link to this site?
 
OE is a good ballplayer and did fine for being a freshman.
Here are some comparable stats:

Player.........scoring avg.........points per shot...........points per minutes played
O. Eldridge (ISU)......9.5...................1.16.........................0.4
J. Young (Drake)......9.3...................1.18.........................0.4
M. Stinson (InSU).....9.4...................1.17.........................0.4
I. Miles (CU)............6.1...................1.20.........................0.3
A. Warren (BU)........4.1...................1.5...........................0.3


Here are the figures for the top shooting guards Nate Funk and Jeremy Crouch:
N. Funk (CU)...........17.7.................1.38..........................0.5
J. Crouch................13.8.................1.40..........................0.5

I am not so sure that any one of the freshman players couldn't have boosted their scoring average a bit, had they played more minutes, and taken more shots, and especially if they played on teams where they were a main offensive option.
 
Stat Freak said:
I don't deny OE is a good ballplayer and did fine for being a freshman.
But here are some comparable stats:

Player.........scoring avg.........points per shot...........points per minutes played
O. Eldridge (ISU)......9.5...................1.16.........................0.4
J. Young (Drake)......9.3...................1.18.........................0.4
M. Stinson (InSU).....9.4...................1.17.........................0.4
I. Miles (CU)............6.1...................1.20.........................0.3
A. Warren (BU)........4.1...................1.5...........................0.3

(so it can easily be seen that on the basis of points per shot taken and points per minute played, Eldridge's numbers were simply NOT that impressive. It then appears the major reason for his stats are the number of shots he takes and the number of minutes he plays.)

Then, just as a comparison (other shooting guards in the Valley)...
here are the figures for Nate Funk and Jeremy Crouch:
N. Funk (CU)...........17.7.................1.38..........................0.5
J. Crouch................13.8.................1.40..........................0.5

I am not so sure that any one of these fine freshman players couldn't have ran their scoring average up a bit and looked every bit as good as Eldridge, had they played lots more minutes, taken lots more shots, and especially if they played on teams where there were no other real offensive options, causing the other players to put the ball in their hands for more shots.
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even with all this, you'd still love to have him at BU and every coach in the league except maybe Les would take Eldridge over warren every day and twice on Sunday so what's your point? :D
 
Re: 'What should "O" do?'

Fetz86 said:
Eldridge says he is facing a crisis and is seeking peoples opinions on if he should transfer out of isu or not.
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I think he should stay at ISU, and play for Coach J at least one year. They have the potential to be a top 5 team in the league next year, and I would think he'd want to be a part of that.

However, if he's openly seeking others opinions, it makes me wonder what his motivation really is..... :?
 
Re: 'What should "O" do?'

OrangeandBlack74 said:
Fetz86 said:
Eldridge says he is facing a crisis and is seeking peoples opinions on if he should transfer out of isu or not.
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I think he should stay at ISU, and play for Coach J at least one year. They have the potential to be a top 5 team in the league next year, and I would think he'd want to be a part of that.

However, if he's openly seeking others opinions, it makes me wonder what his motivation really is..... :?
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As far as I know this info is about 2 weeks old. I know he was upset at the firing originally, but since has warmed to the idea of a new coach.

I can't access Redbirdfan here at work, but I'm almost positive this thread started with outdated info.

I can tell you that Osiris loves ISU and has made many friends in his time there. He will not transfer within the league as he'd have to sit 2 seasons. He will not be pulling a Curtis Stuckey.

I believe he will remain a Redbird.
 
I was invited to this facebook group last night but to tell you the truth, I think its a hoax. All this facebook drama with OE began right after Moser was let go and at first it seemed real but starting a group like this does not seem like something OE would do whatsoever. I think someone may have gotten ahold of his password and is pretending to post things under his name. From all the players Ive talked to, there is no crisis and nobody is leaving. Whether that turns out to be true remains to be seen but IMHO the facebook group is BS and was not created by Osiris.
 
Only one freshman in that list faced a schedule of opponents that was ranked Top 20 among all schools.
ISU's preconference schedule ranks #243, and ranked worst in the Valley.
Obviously all those freshmen are quality players, but who you face and how many shots you take
may have more to do with the scoring numbers than most people realize.
It is obvious that among those freshmen, Eldridge has the fewest points scored per shot taken!
Conclusion, to look good, take more shots?
 
Old Guy said:
Only one freshman in that list faced a schedule of opponents that was ranked Top 20 among all schools.
ISU's preconference schedule ranks #243, and ranked worst in the Valley.
Obviously all those freshmen are quality players, but who you face and how many shots you take
may have more to do with the scoring numbers than most people realize.
It is obvious that among those freshmen, Eldridge has the fewest points scored per shot taken!
Conclusion, to look good, take more shots?
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This is great logic. Except for the fact that Osiris' numbers were better in conference than out of conference.. By a long shot. Please try again. :D

And........are you just now finding out that if you take a couple more shots per game, the chances of scoring more points increases? Are you serious?

The more you shoot, the more you score. OK I got it. :D
 
Nope, if you score more because your shooting pct. goes up, or you help your team win more games, or advance in the conference or tournament, those are all proofs of getting better or being better.
Anyone wonder why all these guys scored way more than Kevin Durant and were NOT named All Americans?
Two of these guys took 20 shots per game!

Reggie Williams, VMI 28.8 points per game
Trey Johnson, Jackson St. 27.1 points per game
Morris Almond, Rice 26.6 points per game
Gary Neal, Towson 25.6 points per game
 
I searched for him on Facebook. The results came up with his page, as well as groups titled Osiris Eldridge is the TRUTH, MVC Dominaton, and O, DON'T GO.
 
Old Guy said:
Nope, if you score more because your shooting pct. goes up, or you help your team win more games, or advance in the conference or tournament, those are all proofs of getting better or being better.
Anyone wonder why all these guys scored way more than Kevin Durant and were NOT named All Americans?
Two of these guys took 20 shots per game!

Reggie Williams, VMI 28.8 points per game
Trey Johnson, Jackson St. 27.1 points per game
Morris Almond, Rice 26.6 points per game
Gary Neal, Towson 25.6 points per game
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He helped them win nearly twice as many games as the previous year. He helped them move up 3 places in conference. Much of that was lost with the tourney loss to Indiana St., but if you say he didn't help his team win, you are wrong.

There were other players that helped also, but Osiris had as big an impact as anyone. You can do whatever you want with your "stats". He averaged over 10 and close to 6rpg and a steal in conference and about half of those games were off the bench. Stats can be manipulated in anyway.
 
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