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BU says no to Williams

How bad does a persons grades have to be to not get into Bradley? I can't imagine his grades being bad enough to not let him into Bradley yet he can still make it into another school. To me it seems more like an excuse to get the other kid instead.
 
Robert, surely you know that schools all differ in regard to academic standards.
Stanford, Harvard, etc. all have way higher standards before you can even dream of getting in there.
And whether you believe it or not, Bradley's acadmic standards are considerably higher than almost all the state schools.
It is no surprse that DeAaron will fall short, as no matter how gifted an athlete you are, you still have to meet the standards.
This, of course, is not true everywhere. some schools have lax standards, and some ignore the ones they do have because the covet the talent.

DeAaron will easily be still able to find a school that will take him, and there are likely a few in this state.
 
Robert23 said:
How bad does a persons grades have to be to not get into Bradley? I can't imagine his grades being bad enough to not let him into Bradley yet he can still make it into another school. To me it seems more like an excuse to get the other kid instead.

There is no conspiracy theory here. BU isn't fabricating DeAaron's academic shortcomings at ICC in order to sign Theron Wilson. For DeAaron to have qualified for BU, he had to get his Associates Degree from ICC...He was nowhere near attaining his degree there, so BU had to move on to plan B.
It was clear what he needed to do at ICC, and he didn't get it done. Pure and simple.
 
Robert, DeAaron Williams is presently completing his 3rd year of college, and yet he still has not passed the minimal number of courses to qualify for a 2-year degree.
That's right, in 3 years he still doesn't have the credits to get a juco degree.
and even with extra work this summer, he is still well behind being on track to get there.

What does this say?
It sure doesn't identify academics as a strong point, and BU does have acadmic standards that DW has fallen short of.
Turn your blame towards the people at Wisconsin and ICC that have failed this kid, and turn a little towards Williams himself.
 
Robert23 said:
How bad does a persons grades have to be to not get into Bradley? I can't imagine his grades being bad enough to not let him into Bradley yet he can still make it into another school. To me it seems more like an excuse to get the other kid instead.

What? Do you know something that none of the rest of us know? That is preposterous!

DeAaron Williams was the highest rated recruit Bradley has ever had in my memory. He was the top recruit in a stellar recruiting class for Bradley. He was recruited by Illinois, and a number of other Top 20 programs out of high school, and was a highly touted recruit for Wisconsin. And he is a superbly skilled basketball player.

Why would Bradley want some excuse to get rid of him and get another kid? Especially since they could always find a way to get Theron Wilson anyway.

If you don't believe DeAaron has overwhelming academic problems, just check with the people at Wisconsin, he failed there; check with the people at ICC. Despite 3 full years at college (1 1/2 at Wisconsin and 1 1/2 at ICC) he doesn't have enough credits to get an associates degree from ICC (usually obtainable in 2 years or less for most people) and has to carry a huge, nearly impossible academic load for the summer session to try to make up the deficit.

And recall that he was a qualifier out of high school and was admitted to Wisconsin (supposedly a good academic institution), but when he tried to transfer initially to Bradley in January of 2006, he was denied because of his extremely poor academic record and many credits that were not transferrable--
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2020

Sorry, but you have things completely backward-- Bradley did everything possible, legally and physically- to help DW get into Bradley and to acquire his skills for the team. I am sure Theron Wilson will be a nice player for Bradley, but I am also sure Jim Les would also very much like to have DeAaron Williams. But DeAaron and his academic counselors at his prior schools have seen to it that it isn't going to happen.
Don't give us any Bradley-blaming junk here with this case.
 
Remember, this is NOT the first time DeAaron Williams has been denied admission to Bradley based on insufficient acadmic standing.
1/21/06:
"The Journal Star has learned Bradley has not accepted DeAaron Williams into the university because of academic issues for the spring semester. Williams, the former Limestone High School standout who quit the University of Wisconsin team last week, reportedly is searching for a school to attend for the spring semester. If he regains his eligibility, Williams could transfer to Bradley or another Division I school in the fall and then sit out a year before becoming eligible to play."
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2020

Williams essentially flunked out at Wisconsin and tried to transfer to Bradley and was denied.

http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1924
 
Why didn't Bradley just arrange for DeAaron to enroll in the same correspondence course Ricky Clemons used at Missouri? He was able to make up 24 credit hours in one 4 week summer semester with the correspondence course through BYU. :wink:

Most athletes take about 12 credit hours a semester, so it would normally take 2 full semesters to get 24 credit hours. But not if you go to Missouri.
 
Bradley has been recruiting Austin and Wilson and it has nothing to do with Williams or a backup plan; I welcome these 2 players as they can add inside scoring , rebounding, defense and it sounds like they are both mentally tough players which is something this team needs;Jim Les has done one heck of a job recruiting this year and all of us should look forward to the future as it looks very bright; I was gone last weekend to ST.Louis and when I heard the news about Fears I was really dissappointed; but if he did not do the things that was expected out of him and the rest of the team then I am happy he will not be here as I only want team players; I think he will be the biggest loser as he really has few options left.
 
Thanks for answering my questions. I never meant to imply they were making up his academic troubles. Just that maybe they could have accepted him. Maybe he was too much of a risk to not graduate and the other guy wasn't.
 
Maybe he was too much of a risk to not graduate and the other guy wasn't

I am sure that wasn't the reason. Bradley has been highly successful at getting their athletes to graduate, but before a college can start worrying about whether someone will graduate, a student has to meet requirements to be admitted in the first place. DeAaron simply does not meet the minimum requirements to be accepted to Bradley, and Coach Les couldn't bend those rules to get him admitted. Bradley did everything possible to try. They weren't able to get him admitted back in Jan. 2006, and that hasn't changed now.
Other colleges have different admission requirements, and we hope DeAaron will graduate from ICC someday and be able to be accepted at another institution and continue his basketball career.
 
Has BU men's bb ever had an ICC transfer on the team?

Has BU men's bb ever had an ICC transfer on the team?

For all you BU bb historians out there - in the 40 years that ICC has been in existance, have they ever successfully transferred a men's bb player to Bradley?

:?: :?: :?:
 
Re: Has BU men's bb ever had an ICC transfer on the team?

Re: Has BU men's bb ever had an ICC transfer on the team?

daPAWW1 said:
For all you BU bb historians out there - in the 40 years that ICC has been in existance, have they ever successfully transferred a men's bb player to Bradley?

:?: :?: :?:

Nope. And that won't be changing anytime soon.
 
Re: Has BU men's bb ever had an ICC transfer on the team?

Re: Has BU men's bb ever had an ICC transfer on the team?

daPAWW1 said:
For all you BU bb historians out there - in the 40 years that ICC has been in existance, have they ever successfully transferred a men's bb player to Bradley?

:?: :?: :?:

True.....
In fact, you can count on one hand and have a few fingers left over.....all the ICC players who have gone on to successful D-I careers.
 
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