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Iowa State Penalized for Academic Failure

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Iowa State loses two basketball scholarships because of failure to meet the minimum standards for academics,
per the NCAA....and may lose even more as they are on track to remain academically deficient-
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2857588
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070502/SPORTS020604/705020372/-1/ENT05

Note that the article says this is the third consecutive year that Iowa State has fallen below the minimum standards.

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In a separate ruling............
The NCAA will not accept any transcripts or academic work from the "prep school"
that one of Iowa State's 2007 recruits hails from.

Marcus Brister, an incoming guard recruited by Greg McDermott, will not therefore be qualified
unless his transcripts can be independently reviewed and verified....something that could be difficult
in the very short time available, plus as in the DeAaron Williams situation, Coach McD may not
wish to wait to find out, as he is limited on scholarships!!
http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1177575396295170.xml&coll=2
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/26/sports/26sportsbriefs.html
http://www.globegazette.com/articles/2007/04/13/latest_news/doc461fe380a7bac614387321.txt
 
Someone over on Valleytalk said that they heard Bradley could be having some problems in the future with this because of our recent turnover. I personally can't see how, considering we just graduated 4/5 (not sure when Adams is counted) guys last year and this year will graduate 3/4. So, is there any truth to this?
 
yourbradleybraves! said:
Someone over on Valleytalk said that they heard Bradley could be having some problems in the future with this because of our recent turnover. I personally can't see how, considering we just graduated 4/5 (not sure when Adams is counted) guys last year and this year will graduate 3/4. So, is there any truth to this?
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No. Probably just wishful thinking by some Bradley-haters.
DeAaron Willliams will not count against Bradley because he was never accepted. Jeremy Fears will not count against Bradley either because he doesn't fit the categoies of student athletes that are tracked in this study (see below). So Bradley's graduation rate will continue to remain one of the top in the MVXC and the NCAA.

This NCAA graduation data tracks 2 types of student-athletes and compares their graduation rates to all students at the school--
>Athletes who are accepted as freshmen, and what percentage of them graduate in a 6 year period after enrolling. The NCAA data also breaks this down into different sports, and into race and ethnic groups, too.
>Athletes who exhaust their eligibility while at that school.

See the bottom part of this release-- DeAaron Williams and Jeremy Fears will not affect Bradley's graduation rates, though DW will affect Wisconsin's, and JF will affect Ohio's numbers. --

http://www2.ncaa.org/portal/academi...ch/academic_reform/grad_rate/2006/d1_info.pdf

The only ex-Bradley player I can think of that could possibly affect Bradley's graduation numbers is Saihou Jassey. But the way I see it, he still has 4 more years to get his degree, and if he does, he will add a positive statistic.
 
Yes, as I read the NCAA definitions, POB is one case that would count against Bradley if he fails to get his degree within 6 years of his enrollment at Bradley. Some high-major schools that have multiple player defections to the NBA complain about this and I suspect the NCAA may eventually grant an exclusion for this.
 
Da Coach said:
Yes, as I read the NCAA definitions, POB is one case that would count against Bradley if he fails to get his degree within 6 years of his enrollment at Bradley. Some high-major schools that have multiple player defections to the NBA complain about this and I suspect the NCAA may eventually grant an exclusion for this.
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I hope they take into consideration players leaving for the NBA and actually drafted and playing.

I mean... if some Bonehead at State University is gonna flunk out, but then enters the draft to help keep State University from losing 'grading points' from the NCAA... and Bonehead never plays professionally... I just hope the NCAA can keep tabs on this crap.
 
The data has been tweaked to be sure all those factors balance out.
So even if a kid transfers out, as long as he finishes his degree in the specified time, it counts as graduated even if he left the school in question.
There are very, very few excuses for the schools doing badly, now that the data has been modified to balance those factors, and that's why the schools at the bottom are NOT COMPLAINING and are getting their butts going in an effort to improve.
Which is exactly the purpose of this data, because not only can they LOSE scholarships, but soo even post season bans can go into effect!!

"penalties will become progressively more severe, eventually banning teams from postseason play."

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLN4g3NPUESYGYxqb6kWhCjhgihqYeCDFfj_zcVH1v_QD9gtzQ0IhyR0UAE3AuRw!!/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvUUd3QndNQSEvNElVRS82XzBfMTVL?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/wps/wcm/connect/NCAA/NCAA+News/NCAA+News+Online/2007/Association-Updates/APR+data+shows+improvement,+challenges+-+05-02-07+update

(you have to cut and paste entire web address to see link)
 
Da Coach said:
Yes, as I read the NCAA definitions, POB is one case that would count against Bradley if he fails to get his degree within 6 years of his enrollment at Bradley. Some high-major schools that have multiple player defections to the NBA complain about this and I suspect the NCAA may eventually grant an exclusion for this.
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OK, seriously, what else is he doing with his time ... ever heard of the University of Phoenix, POB?
 
Marcus Brister was fully qualified before going to prep school so he should have no problem getting to ISU tornado. He just got his qualifing test score late and did not want to try and find a school in June.
 
chitownBUB said:
Another report says all the DI programs in Iowa are lagging
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070503/SPORTS0208/705030398/-1/ENT06
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As is usual in Tom Witosky's articles, this is somewhat overblown and misleading. The sub-headline and opening paragraph seem to imply that the basketball programs for all the Iowa schools are close to being in trouble with the APR.

Upon reading the actual article, it is a couple of minor sports at both UNI and Iowa that are lagging and the men's soccer program at Drake is at 922....925 is the NCAA cutoff.

As a Drake fan, I'm not real concerned....I've seen the numbers, and Drake is the 80-90th percentile for basketball.
 
DUBulldog said:
As is usual in Tom Witosky's articles, this is somewhat overblown and misleading. The sub-headline and opening paragraph seem to imply that the basketball programs for all the Iowa schools are close to being in trouble with the APR.
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Witosky misleading? NEVER! :wink:

ISU fans knew at the start of the season that we were being penalized one scholarship due to the APR and we then voluntarily penalized ourselves another. But the article says we went two straight semesters with perfect scores and while we are losing some players yet again, I still think we are on the right track. Where was Witosky six months ago when this was really news?
 
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