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Mid-Major Rankings

tornado

tornado

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In a premium report, Rivals ranks the top mid-major teams and players for the upcoming season.

EDIT-- note that this ranking is for Midmajors recruiting classes.

Like it or not, here is what they say............and they sure don't seem to think very much of the top rated non-BCS conference, as there is barely a mention of anyone in the Missouri Valley!


Mid-Major Top 20 Teams (National rank)
1. Memphis (10)
2. Gonzaga (17)
3. New Mexico State
4. Pepperdine
5. Va. Commonwealth
6. Creighton
7. UNLV
8. Butler
9. Dayton
10. Jackson State
11. UTEP
12. New Mexico
13. MTSU
14. Xavier
15. UAB
16. Charlotte
17. SMU
18. UMass
19. Colorado State
20. Temple



Top Five Incoming Mid-Major Players
1- Derrick Rose (Memphis)
2- Austin Daye (Gonzaga)
3- Beas Hamga (UNLV)
4- Herb Pope (New Mexico State)
5- Jeff Robinson (Memphis)



There are 20 players inside the Rivals Top 150 headed to mid-majors, and here is how they grade them.......

Best of the Mid-majors
Best perimeter scorer: Tyrone Shelley, Pepperdine
Best low post scorer: Herb Pope, New Mexico State
Best passer: Joey Rodriguez, Virginia Commonwealth
Best shooter: Austin Daye, Gonzaga
Best rebounder: Beas Hamga, UNLV
Best shot-blocker: Beas Hamga, UNLV
Best defender: Lance Kearse, Virginia Commonwealth
Most versatile: Jenirro Bush, Jackson State
Best in the clutch: Derrick Rose, Memphis
Best basketball IQ: Derrick Rose, Memphis
Best pro prospect: Derrick Rose, Memphis
Best interview: P'Allen Stinnett, Creighton
Best speed: Derrick Rose, Memphis
Best hands: Kenton Walker, Creghton
Best motor: Matt Howard, Butler
Best strength: Robert Sacre, Gonzaga
Best leaper: Chris Wright, Dayton
Impact player: Derrick Rose, Memphis
Biggest sleeper: Zach Hahn, Butler
(nice to see one of the MVC recruits sneaks in there at "Best Interview")

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=682458
 
There are a lot of people who would not include schools like Memphis and New Mexico as mid-majors. It appears their definition of a mid-major is any school not in a BCS conference.
 
Polls are horses**t anyway. Have you ever taken the pre-season top 25 poll and compared it to the final one? I did a couple of years to find that preseason polls mean nothing and serve no purpose other than securing a sportswriter???‚¬?„?s phony-boloney job. :lol:
 
it's boogie time said:
These are recruiting classes rankings.
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If that's true that's interesting because some recruiting sources have our class as high as #23 in the country, yet we are nowhere to be found on the mid-major list.
 
Yes, the rankings are for "Midmajors" and are for their recruiting classes for 2007. I have edited the top post to state that.
 
BUBraves06 said:
it's boogie time said:
These are recruiting classes rankings.
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If that's true that's interesting because some recruiting sources have our class as high as #23 in the country, yet we are nowhere to be found on the mid-major list.
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Exactly....and that's all we really need to know when it comes to preseason "rankings" of any sort. The only thing that really matters is the end result once the teams take the court.
 
shaunguth said:
BUBraves06 said:
it's boogie time said:
These are recruiting classes rankings.
Click to expand...

If that's true that's interesting because some recruiting sources have our class as high as #23 in the country, yet we are nowhere to be found on the mid-major list.
Click to expand...
Exactly....and that's all we really need to know when it comes to preseason "rankings" of any sort. The only thing that really matters is the end result once the teams take the court.
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Maybe they think our recruiting class was so good we are a major now...lol. This does seem strange though. I guess the only way to earn respect is to go out and win in the big dance, which we knew anyway, we just have to win alot more in the big dance.
 
There really is NO MVC team who defied the pundits and prognosticators any more over the past two years than BRADLEY.

In 2005-2006, BU was given little chance of being any better than a .500 club and no postseason prayers, yet BU finished in the hunt among the Valley elite and went to the Sweet Sixteen.

In 2006-2007, BU was universally picked either 8th or 9th.
NOT one guru had BU any higher than 7th, and only one source that I know of outside this board even had us that high.
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3549
I still have all the Fall-2006 preseason magazines sitting to prove it!

But BU went on to another 22 win season and was clearly one of the top four teams in the league and played in the postseason.

SO---- I guess we here at BradleyFans, in our 2.5 years in existence, have shown who knows more than all those pundits.
It may seem a little insulting to those guys and the people who called for BU to be a mediocre team the past two seasons, but facts are facts.
We have established a track record and now claim superiority so those preseason predictions just don't bother me any more.
 
tornado said:
There really is NO MVC team who defied the pundits and prognosticators any more over the past two years than BRADLEY.

In 2005-2006, BU was given little chance of being any better than a .500 club and no postseason prayers, yet BU finished in the hunt among the Valley elite and went to the Sweet Sixteen.

In 2006-2007, BU was universally picked either 8th or 9th.
NOT one guru had BU any higher than 7th, and only one source that I know of outside this board even had us that high.
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3549
I still have all the Fall-2006 preseason magazines sitting to prove it!

But BU went on to another 22 win season and was clearly one of the top four teams in the league and played in the postseason.

SO---- I guess we here at BradleyFans, in our 2.5 years in existence, have shown who knows more than all those pundits.
It may seem a little insulting to those guys and the people who called for BU to be a mediocre team the past two seasons, but facts are facts.
We have established a track record and now claim superiority so those preseason predictions just don't bother me any more.
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Mediocre team? A team that wins 22 games back-to-back seasons in a top 5 conference, that finishes in the top 40 in the RPI 2 years in a row, that has won 3 postseason games over the last 2 seasons is 'mediocre'? Please. Anyone who says that is just showing their ignorance.
 
But get ready for it, BB, it is already starting.
Have you not heard it? There are already those saying BU will bite the dust this year and have a big setback.

Here are the only two guys I have seen making their Valley predictions for next year....

---This guy says BU will be 8th
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7350
Then he totally discredits himself and shows his buffoonery by claiming Indiana State will be 4th!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:



---This guy picks Bradley 5th, and I understand his skepticism with all the new players, but he still thinks ISU will finish two slots better at 3rd, and they have a whole new system, coach, and several personnel changes, too. They are also desperately thin in the frontcourt and at PG, while they have a glut at the 2-guard position, how many 2-guards can you play at once?
I am still confident BU will do better than 2 slots behind ISU.
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7668
 
Bradley will start getting better preseason picks once they start doing better in the previous conference season. Bradley's best finish under Jim Les is 4th place. He has 3 wins in 5 years in St. Louis. It's hard to pick a team that has never challenged for a regular season title to win it. The program is pointed in the right direction, but needs the results that most of us expect this upcoming season for other people to come around.
 
So you agree and concede that their preseason prediction has NOTHING to do with any sense of what Bradley has this season and what they are going to do this season with the talent they have relative to the talent the other teams have!

You are agreeing that the gurus simply look at the past and see that Les has not won in St. Louis and he has not finished better than 4th....and that performance WILL determine this season as well!
...therefore they won't bother to give him any consideration this year.

That is an amazing admission, boogie...that's like saying Florida won the National Championship last year so I am going to pick them again this year even if they lost everyone.
Or like saying Illinois State hasn't finished in the top half of the Valley this century, so why put them there now.....but....

The one guy DID pick ISU 3rd....so I think your logic is flawed.
:wink:
 
I'm not agreeing with prognosticators about Bradley because I follow them everyday. I have a good idea about what they lost and what they have gained. I also won't pick BU over SIU because of what they have returning and how they have faired over the last six years. Creighton lost a bunch, but you have a decade of past experence to see that they won't slide that far.

I don't know why you (tornado) get so worked up over preseason picks. After a couple games, who really cares who picked who unless you have some money riding them. Just find past magazines and you can see how far some of the picks are off.

Picking ISU 3rd is quite a stretch.
 
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