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Jeremy Robinson commits to ISU

Daniel, as a Redbird fan, I am pumped about this verbal. Any other insight as to who ISU is heavily recruiting?
 
:( I thought he might be too highly rated a recruit for us to get, I didn't think he would be going to ISU. Oh well at least it's early in the recruiting season and we have a lot of time to get some great players for next year. Congratulations to ISU on the nice comit.
 
This is a bit of a steal for ISU, but here is what happened....

Up until just 3 months ago this kid was hearing from Kansas, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and other big boys...

Then just as the AAU season was getting underway, Jeremy Robinson suffered a severe, potentially career-ending knee injury. (ACL tear)
This has been talked about on BradleyFans...
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7520
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2933
http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2007/05/07/sports/h_r_preps/boys_basketball/1023255.txt

Robinson underwent surgery but will begin rehab soon and not play competetively at least until November, thus he didn't play any ball this summer...and the uncertainty of the future caused all the big offers to drop off.
Apparently even Bradley dropped off and the options narrowed for Robinson.

One of the premium recruiting sites states that the only schools left pursuing Jeremy Robinson were ISU and Wichita State, Dayton, UIC, Indiana State, and the Pantagraph also says
Iowa, Penn State, Iowa State, Wright State, and Tulane.

He probably picked the best one among those to get immediate playing time should he be able to adequately come back from his injury.
 
tornado said:
This is a bit of a steal for ISU, but here is what happened....

Up until just 3 months ago this kid was hearing from Kansas, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and other big boys...

Then just as the AAU season was getting underway, Jeremy Robinson suffered a severe, potentially career-ending knee injury. (ACL tear)
This has been talked about on BradleyFans...
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7520
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2933
http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2007/05/07/sports/h_r_preps/boys_basketball/1023255.txt

Robinson underwent surgery but will begin rehab soon and not play competetively at least until November, thus he didn't play any ball this summer...and the uncertainty of the future caused all the big offers to drop off.
Apparently even Bradley dropped off and the options narrowed for Robinson.

One of the premium recruiting sites states that the only schools left pursuing Jeremy Robinson were ISU and Wichita State, Dayton, UIC, Indiana State, and the Pantagraph also says
Iowa, Penn State, Iowa State, Wright State, and Tulane.

He probably picked the best one among those to get immediate playing time should he be able to adequately come back from his injury.

That's good. Maybe he'll play with a strong sense of loyalty and a chip on his shoulder should he ever face a team that backed off on his recruitment. I know Moser was recruiting him when he was still at ISU and I guess Jank and Co. followed through with him.

You are right though in the sense that an injury like that scared many teams off. I guess this is similar to the deal with LA Pomlee? Though his condition is much more serious than a torn ACL. Maybe ISU will reap the rewards of a guy that was expected to go to a BCS team.

He's supposed to be a talented kid so we shall see what happens provided he makes a full recovery. ACL is a pretty common procedure these days and while it does take 2 full years (usually) to get back to where you were before, I like the chances of a 17-18 year old kid being able to make it back. He would be about 18 months removed from the surgery by the time workouts begin in October of '08.
 
tornado said:
This is a bit of a steal for ISU, but here is what happened....

Up until just 3 months ago this kid was hearing from Kansas, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and other big boys...

Then just as the AAU season was getting underway, Jeremy Robinson suffered a severe, potentially career-ending knee injury. (ACL tear)
This has been talked about on BradleyFans...
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7520
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2933
http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2007/05/07/sports/h_r_preps/boys_basketball/1023255.txt

Robinson underwent surgery but will begin rehab soon and not play competetively at least until November, thus he didn't play any ball this summer...and the uncertainty of the future caused all the big offers to drop off.
Apparently even Bradley dropped off and the options narrowed for Robinson.

One of the premium recruiting sites states that the only schools left pursuing Jeremy Robinson were ISU and Wichita State, Dayton, UIC, Indiana State, and the Pantagraph also says
Iowa, Penn State, Iowa State, Wright State, and Tulane.

He probably picked the best one among those to get immediate playing time should he be able to adequately come back from his injury.

Sounds alot like an Eric Roberson situation.
 
Agree 100%
Full and Near full recoveries from ACL surgery are rare, but some of these kids can motivate themselves and get it done.

Others who lose a step or some of the jumping ability simply compensate by getting stronger.
Sam Singh is coming back from such an injury, and a few years ago one of the best players in the east tore his ACL (Eric Roberson) and when everyone else backed off, Bradley got him.

It will be tough on Jeremy, he has a lot of work to do to get back in playing shape, but I suspect he fully understands why a lot of schools backed off, and he is thankful he still has the opportunity to play D-I ball.

ISU will need him right away, as the ONLY true post players who'll be there in 2008 are Sampay for one more year, and Dinma.
Between the two of them, they have 162 minutes of D-I experience and are completely untested.
 
tornado said:
This is a bit of a steal for ISU, but here is what happened....

Up until just 3 months ago this kid was hearing from Kansas, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and other big boys...

Then just as the AAU season was getting underway, Jeremy Robinson suffered a severe, potentially career-ending knee injury. (ACL tear)
This has been talked about on BradleyFans...
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7520
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2933
http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2007/05/07/sports/h_r_preps/boys_basketball/1023255.txt

Robinson underwent surgery but will begin rehab soon and not play competetively at least until November, thus he didn't play any ball this summer...and the uncertainty of the future caused all the big offers to drop off.
Apparently even Bradley dropped off and the options narrowed for Robinson.

One of the premium recruiting sites states that the only schools left pursuing Jeremy Robinson were ISU and Wichita State, Dayton, UIC, Indiana State, and the Pantagraph also says
Iowa, Penn State, Iowa State, Wright State, and Tulane.

He probably picked the best one among those to get immediate playing time should he be able to adequately come back from his injury.

When did BU drop off? I heard just a few days ago from a VERY reliable source that BU was looking good with Robinson.
 
BradleyBrave said:
tornado said:
This is a bit of a steal for ISU, but here is what happened....

Up until just 3 months ago this kid was hearing from Kansas, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and other big boys...

Then just as the AAU season was getting underway, Jeremy Robinson suffered a severe, potentially career-ending knee injury. (ACL tear)
This has been talked about on BradleyFans...
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7520
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2933
http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2007/05/07/sports/h_r_preps/boys_basketball/1023255.txt

Robinson underwent surgery but will begin rehab soon and not play competetively at least until November, thus he didn't play any ball this summer...and the uncertainty of the future caused all the big offers to drop off.
Apparently even Bradley dropped off and the options narrowed for Robinson.

One of the premium recruiting sites states that the only schools left pursuing Jeremy Robinson were ISU and Wichita State, Dayton, UIC, Indiana State, and the Pantagraph also says
Iowa, Penn State, Iowa State, Wright State, and Tulane.

He probably picked the best one among those to get immediate playing time should he be able to adequately come back from his injury.

When did BU drop off? I heard just a few days ago from a VERY reliable source that BU was looking good with Robinson.

According to this article, BU was still in on him and had maintained an offer. Who knows for sure?

http://www.midstatehoops.com/articles/2007/robinson.html
 
I had heard from a couple months ago a slightly differing version, and as noted in the story this morning by
Dave Telep, interest was coming from Illinois State, Wichita State, Dayton, UIC and Indiana State, and Telep mentions no others.
 
tornado said:
Robinson underwent surgery but will begin rehab soon and not play competetively at least until November, thus he didn't play any ball this summer...and the uncertainty of the future caused all the big offers to drop off.
I think your info here is a little outdated as here:
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/07/19/sports/doc469ed9ab35ae0458220983.txt
it says "Robinson, who was being recruited by Moser at ISU last season and made an unofficial visit, tore his ACL this spring and underwent surgery in May. He has not played with Eisenhower in the summer leagues, but Moore said Robinson was fully released by doctors last week.
???‚¬?“Last Monday in open gym he looked good,???‚¬?? said Moore.

Full and Near full recoveries from ACL surgery are rare,
This is definitely outdated. ACL surgeries are far more common these days and are rarely (<2%) career ending for althetes.

Anywho, its never a good thing to tear an ACL so I hope he's doing well.
 
I have a few friends in the medical profession, BB, and I stand by my statement.

Jeremy may have a release from his medical doctor, but that doesn't mean he is released to play basketball.
If that's what you think is meant by the statement in the Pantagraph, then you are being very hopeful.

Not sure what you mean by "common" but there are virtually NO players you can name playing well
at the TOP level of basketball who have made it back from an ACL.
Guys like Brandon Rush and Bill Walker have a long road ahead of them, as does Jeremy.
The typical rehab process takes 6 month to over a year...just ask Sam Singh.

If you think I am so outdated, then give me a short list of top college players or NBA players
who have made it back 100% from an ACL surgery....
There are actually NONE.

Some have come back and been good players, NONE have ever come back and been great or all-star caliber players.

Here is an article as current as can possibly be about ACL's, it's from about a month ago...

It highlights that it is possible to "come back from this injury close to 100 percent",
but not 100%, and the timetable is a minimum of 6 months.
http://blogs.cjonline.com/index.php?entry=3691
(written by a very well known Orthopedic Surgeon, not a message board poster)
 
These are the type of players The Valley needs to get. Even though I can't stand ISU :wink: , I'm happy for them as this can only help The Valley, our rivalry with ISU, and, in turn, will help us get better recruits.

Who knows, maybe Shumpert will see some of these high caliber recruits that WSU, CU, and now ISU are getting and this will help in his decision to come to BU :D
 
tornado said:
Jeremy may have a release from his medical doctor, but that doesn't mean he is released to play basketball.
If that's what you think is meant by the statement in the Pantagraph, then you are being very hopeful.

Tornado, what do you make of this statement:

Moore said Robinson was fully released by doctors last week.
???‚¬?“Last Monday in open gym he looked good,???‚¬?? said Moore.

What do you think goes on at open gyms? Last time I checked, it was alot of basketball things. (shooting, pick up games, etc.) 8)
 
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