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Next game: Bradley at Illinois State at 3:05 pm Saturday, 1/31

Last night's game was great but let's move on to this one. Sure it will be tough, it is always a tough game regardless! I like our chances if DC and SS shows up with energy to play. I also hope we have some decent refs calling the game and they let the game play out. Last nights ref were adequate no real big complaints from me. Also, last night was SM's off shooting night, he'll show up Saturday to "Pluck the Bird."
 
I like the fact they lost and we won.....worst thing that can happen is we fall back into a tie. Pressure is on them.
 
I'd love to see Chris Roberts back into the flow on offense. He was a big part of the early success at the start of the conference schedule, but hasn't done too much lately on the offensive end. He certainly adds to the defense and rebounding with his size and athleticism, but he hasn't been much of a factor in the scoring column excect for winning the steak dinner.

I don't know if this is the game that it will happen since he will have his hands full guarding
Eldridge or Oguchi.
 
Big big game here. I want a win of course, but it'll be tough to come by. Time to take a tough win though, and cement our spot near the top. GO BU!
 
To win this one BU is going to need to give more effort then any game this year by far. 40 minutes or we dont have a shot. And our shots need to fall. I personally dont think it would have mattered if isu had lost against UNI or if they had won, I dont think that either isu or Bradley could be focused on this game any more.
 
I think we're going to need to do something we haven't done in awhile...and by awhile I mean 10 games...

And that is score 70 points...

I just don't believe we beat isu at their house scoring in the 50's...I could be wrong, but I think we need to get hot Sat. afternoon and stay hot.
 
I think we're going to need to do something we haven't done in awhile...and by awhile I mean 10 games...

And that is score 70 points...

I just don't believe we beat isu at their house scoring in the 50's...I could be wrong, but I think we need to get hot Sat. afternoon and stay hot.

When was the last time Bradley "scored in the 50's"? It's only happened once since the conference schedule started, and they won that game (56-52) against ISU.

On the other hand, Illinois State has had trouble scoring recently.

They have scored in the 50's in 3 of their last 4 games, and in addition, Bradley held them to 52 points in the win back on Jan. 6.
 
Seems to me that SaintLou Brave was talking about the fact that he doesn't think we'll beat ISU again with a score in the 50s. He didn't suggest Bradley has been scoring in the 50s, except against ISU, which given the fact that we're playing ISU is a relevant piece of information.
 
Maybe so, but my point is still valid. From the recent games played by both teams, it looks like ISU has struggled more to score, and is more likely to score in the 50's than Bradley, who has only done it once, in a game they won.

Instead of always looking at things in a negative way ("we're going to need to do something we haven't done in awhile" and "I just don't believe we beat isu at their house scoring in the 50's"), I prefer to look at it this way-
I don't see ISU staying with Bradley if they continue to strugggle to score like they have been.
 
I sort of agree. I think if we hold ISU in the 50s we've got a shot at winning this thing. I think if it becomes an up-and-down run-and-gun scoring sort of game, then it'll be very very hard to win.
 
...and nothing like some lockdown D (forcing ISU to miss shots... some huge DC blocks) to take the crowd out of the mix, too. And a little high flying dunk from TW won't hurt.
 
O/O

O/O

We need to shut down either Osirus or Oguchi to win. If both of them score their averages or above we're in trouble. Eldridge is a great player, but he can get frustrated and force things if he's shut down early in the game.
 
Here is a little rundown of my impressions of the ISU personnel, with some help from an ISU insider--

Here are their team stats--
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/teams/iag/stats

As can be seen from those stats, they play basicaly just 6 players (the starters plus Sampay) the great majority of time. Nobody but the top six average more than 2.8 ppg.
Only 1 other player, Sead Odzic, averages more than 9 minutes a game, but he scores just 1 ppg, and though he is considered a three-point threat, he has not made a three pointer all season.

Brandon Sampay is their only significant bench player. He averages 7.0 ppg and 4.8 rpg in 21 minutes off the bench. He is listed at 6'8", but he closer to 6'6", and 250 lbs. He is not a leaper like Anthony Slack was for them last year, but his size does help around the basket.
But here is some inside news about Sampay- From an ISU insider I have hard that he suffered a sprained ankle late in the Redbirds' loss at Northern Iowa Wednesday, and did not practice much Thursday. He is still favoring his ankle and how much he can play Saturday is in question.
Sampay sprained his ankle last year and missed a couple games.

Chamberlain (Champ) Oguchi is their leading scorer at 15.2 ppg. He averages 5.6 rpg, which is good for a guard, but he only averages 1.4 assists per game in 31.2 minutes per game, which means he doesn't pass much. He shoots 39% from three and is an 83% free throw shooter.
But he is only 4-14 from three over the past 3 games.
Game-by-game stats-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/38151

Osiris Eldridge was the preseason Valley Player of the Year. But so far, he has not been the best player on his own team. He averages 14.1 ppg, and 6.0 rpg, and is among the leaders in the MVC at 34.5 minutes per game played. He is in a bit of a slump lately. He has only scored below double-digits 4 times this season, but 3 of them have been in the last 6 games. His shooting percentage has also taken a dive lately. He was close to 50% for the year, until the last 6 games he is shooting only 35.7%.
Here are his game-by-game stats-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/61299

Lloyd Phillips is a junior college transfer who is 3rd in scoring at 11.8 ppg. He is their best point guard, and is second to Eldridge in minutes played with 32.2. He is statistically their best outside shooter and leads them in assists with 3.6 apg. He has been their most consistent player, but he also leads ISU in turnovers..
stats-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/81068

Emmanuel Holloway also starts at guard. He is a senior and was a juco transfer reserve player last year. He's also a pretty good shooter, and averages 9.8 ppg. He has played well lately while Eldridge and Oguchi have fallen off a little.
stats-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/38722

The 5th starter is center Dinma Odiakosa. He may be the most improved player in the league. He averages 9.3 ppg, and 7.3 rpg, and plays solid defense in the middle.
He has a couple weak areas. He tends to get into foul trouble sometimes, and is a horrible free throw shooter- 40% for the season. He was 0-5 from the free throw line in the close loss at Northern Iowa. He also doesn't pass well. Considering all the good shooters ISU has, Odiakosa averages only 0.5 assists per game this year, which is right at his career average.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/46851

Other reserves-
Landon Shipley- junior guard averaging 2.8 ppg. He is a transfer from Austin Peay, and only plays 5 min per game.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/47528

Alex Rubin- a 6'1" sophomore point guard who has only gotten into 8 games all year, averages 8.8 minutes per game, and 1.8 ppg. He was injured early in the year.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/73285

Brandon Holtz- a 6'4" shooting guard, and former high school teammate of Dodie Dunson at Bloominton HS. Brandon, a senior, doesn't play much in Jankovich's system, and it's unlikely we'll see much of him in Saturday's game. He is avergaing 6.6 minutes in 14 games, and 1.5 ppg, which is the lowest season average in his 4 years at ISU.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/47044

Sead Odzic- he is a transfer from University of Southern California. He is a 6'3" junior, and when he transferred he was hailed as a great shooter. But he has not shot well. As noted above, he plays 14 minutes per game, more than any other reserve than Sampay, but his 1 ppg (also 1 apg, and 1 rpg) average is the worst on the team except for a couple seldom used freshmen.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/46362

Kellen Thornton- a 6'7" freshman who might have redshirted, except they needed bodies. He is very thin (listed at 215, but likely much less), and plays mostly when Odiakosa or Sampay are in foul trouble. He averages 5.3 mpg, 0.5 ppg, and 1.3 rpg. If Sampay's ankle limits him, we may see a little of Thornton.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/81071

Jeremy Robinson- Jeremy is a 6'8" sophomore who is also a bit skinny. Bradley coach Jim Les recruited him out of Decatur Eisenhower HS where he was a teammate of Lewis Jackson (who chose Purdue over Bradley). Jeremy suffered a severe knee injury prior to his senior season in HS, but has recovered well from that. However, he rarely sees the playing floor at ISU. He has appeared in just 11 games (the lowest of any ISU player except for Rubin who was injured), averages 3.5 minutes per game, 0.5 ppg and 0.7 rpg. He has not played in 6 of ISUs last 7 games. He is another one they should have redsirted.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/81069
 
I think the most important thing is to get off to a good start and try to take the crowd out of it, I believe we need to score 67 points as Isu will score more points on their homecourt then what they have been scoring on the road, everyone has to contribute if we expect to be the 1st team to beat them on their homecourt.
 
Here is a little rundown of my impressions of the ISU personnel, with some help from an ISU insider--

Here are their team stats--
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/teams/iag/stats

As can be seen from those stats, they play basicaly just 6 players (the starters plus Sampay) the great majority of time. Nobody but the top six average more than 2.8 ppg.
Only 1 other player, Sead Odzic, averages more than 9 minutes a game, but he scores just 1 ppg, and though he is considered a three-point threat, he has not made a three pointer all season.

Brandon Sampay is their only significant bench player. He averages 7.0 ppg and 4.8 rpg in 21 minutes off the bench. He is listed at 6'8", but he closer to 6'6", and 250 lbs. He is not a leaper like Anthony Slack was for them last year, but his size does help around the basket.
But here is some inside news about Sampay- From an ISU insider I have hard that he suffered a sprained ankle late in the Redbirds' loss at Northern Iowa Wednesday, and did not practice much Thursday. He is still favoring his ankle and how much he can play Saturday is in question.
Sampay sprained his ankle last year and missed a couple games.

Chamberlain (Champ) Oguchi is their leading scorer at 15.2 ppg. He averages 5.6 rpg, which is good for a guard, but he only averages 1.4 assists per game in 31.2 minutes per game, which means he doesn't pass much. He shoots 39% from three and is an 83% free throw shooter.
But he is only 4-14 from three over the past 3 games.
Game-by-game stats-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/38151

Osiris Eldridge was the preseason Valley Player of the Year. But so far, he has not been the best player on his own team. He averages 14.1 ppg, and 6.0 rpg, and is among the leaders in the MVC at 34.5 minutes per game played. He is in a bit of a slump lately. He has only scored below double-digits 4 times this season, but 3 of them have been in the last 6 games. His shooting percentage has also taken a dive lately. He was close to 50% for the year, until the last 6 games he is shooting only 35.7%.
Here are his game-by-game stats-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/61299

Lloyd Phillips is a junior college transfer who is 3rd in scoring at 11.8 ppg. He is their best point guard, and is second to Eldridge in minutes played with 32.2. He is statistically their best outside shooter and leads them in assists with 3.6 apg. He has been their most consistent player, but he also leads ISU in turnovers..
stats-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/81068

Emmanuel Holloway also starts at guard. He is a senior and was a juco transfer reserve player last year. He's also a pretty good shooter, and averages 9.8 ppg. He has played well lately while Eldridge and Oguchi have fallen off a little.
stats-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/38722

The 5th starter is center Dinma Odiakosa. He may be the most improved player in the league. He averages 9.3 ppg, and 7.3 rpg, and plays solid defense in the middle.
He has a couple weak areas. He tends to get into foul trouble sometimes, and is a horrible free throw shooter- 40% for the season. He was 0-5 from the free throw line in the close loss at Northern Iowa. He also doesn't pass well. Considering all the good shooters ISU has, Odiakosa averages only 0.5 assists per game this year, which is right at his career average.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/46851

Other reserves-
Landon Shipley- junior guard averaging 2.8 ppg. He is a transfer from Austin Peay, and only plays 5 min per game.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/47528

Alex Rubin- a 6'1" sophomore point guard who has only gotten into 8 games all year, averages 8.8 minutes per game, and 1.8 ppg. He was injured early in the year.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/73285

Brandon Holtz- a 6'4" shooting guard, and former high school teammate of Dodie Dunson at Bloominton HS. Brandon, a senior, doesn't play much in Jankovich's system, and it's unlikely we'll see much of him in Saturday's game. He is avergaing 6.6 minutes in 14 games, and 1.5 ppg, which is the lowest season average in his 4 years at ISU.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/47044

Sead Odzic- he is a transfer from University of Southern California. He is a 6'3" junior, and when he transferred he was hailed as a great shooter. But he has not shot well. As noted above, he plays 14 minutes per game, more than any other reserve than Sampay, but his 1 ppg (also 1 apg, and 1 rpg) average is the worst on the team except for a couple seldom used freshmen.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/46362

Kellen Thornton- a 6'7" freshman who might have redshirted, except they needed bodies. He is very thin (listed at 215, but likely much less), and plays mostly when Odiakosa or Sampay are in foul trouble. He averages 5.3 mpg, 0.5 ppg, and 1.3 rpg. If Sampay's ankle limits him, we may see a little of Thornton.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/81071

Jeremy Robinson- Jeremy is a 6'8" sophomore who is also a bit skinny. Bradley coach Jim Les recruited him out of Decatur Eisenhower HS where he was a teammate of Lewis Jackson (who chose Purdue over Bradley). Jeremy suffered a severe knee injury prior to his senior season in HS, but has recovered well from that. However, he rarely sees the playing floor at ISU. He has appeared in just 11 games (the lowest of any ISU player except for Rubin who was injured), averages 3.5 minutes per game, 0.5 ppg and 0.7 rpg. He has not played in 6 of ISUs last 7 games. He is another one they should have redsirted.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/81069

One more note I meant to include in the above summary-
I had a chance to talk to someone who has NBA connections and expertise. The player that NBA scouts see in the MVC that has the best chance to play pro is Chamberlain Oguchi. He is not a 1st round pick, and maybe not even a second rounder, but they think he has a chance to make an NBA roster.

He will pose the most difficult matchup Saturday, not Eldridge. What the NBA likes about him is his great size and athleticism.
It is rare to see a 6'6" guard in the MVC, and not one with such athletic skills. He is tough to guard. He gets his shot off from a very high spot above his head, and he get tremendous elevation on his jump shot. It can't be blocked. If a defender gets too close, he is capable of taking him off the dribble. We didn't see much of him in Peoria. He was limited by back spasms, and was just 1-7 from the floor.
It will be interesting to see who guards him, especially now that BU stats a smaller lineup with Roberts on the bench. Maybe Theron Wilson gets the assignment?
 
Everything seems pretty accurate from your player bio's DC.

Odzic did come in as a sharp shooter last year- struggled and lost all confidence. I am pretty sure he hasn't even attempted a 3 this year. He literally only shoots if he drives for a layup. Some think Jank just tells him not to shoot, other think he is just scared to miss... kind of a mystery... especially since he drains 90% of his shots in warmups... i know they are uncontested... but its still pretty nice to watch.

Sampay did tweak an ankle in the UNI game. He came out of the game when he did it, but came back into the game later.

Someone on RBF saw him walking in uptown Normal and noticed a slight limp...but nothing major. I would expect to see him between 15-25 mins (unless there was a re-tweak of it since the game), depending on foul situations.

Thornton and J-Rob have seen more time recently, just not during the same game. Thornton played well in some mins vs. WSU. He played real good d vs. clemente. Robinson had some quality minutes vs. SIU last Saturday as well.

They both appear to be getting more comfortable on the court.
 
We have had a couple questions about the TV broadcast-
It will be on Comcast, cable channel 74. The broadcasters are the ISU guys-Kurt Pegler and Bob Morris.
 
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