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The Winless 07-08

MacabreMob

MacabreMob

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16 total winless teams against Div 1 teams, but only 5 are totally winless on the year.

Winless:
Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1
Ball State - 0-8
Canisius - 0-8
Furman - 0-7
Grambling - 0-4 - 0-1
NJIT - 0-12​

Winless vs D1 but have beaten non-D1:
Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1​
Alabama A&M - 0-4 - 3-0
Alcorn St - 0-6 - 1-1
E Illinois - 0-8 - 1-0
Jacksonville St - 0-7 - 2-0
Lamar - 0-5 - 3-0​

Miss Valley St - 0-8 - 1-0
N Florida - 0-6 - 1-0
Sacramento St - 0-7 - 2-0
SC Upstate - 0-7 - 1-0
Southern Miss - 0-3 - 4-0
UL Lafayette - 0-5 - 1-0​
 
On that list, the one team I'm pulling for is Furman. They are led by freshman and former Richwoods guard Justin Dehm. He is leading the team in scoring and from the articles I've read is having a very impressive season. I'll be curious in 2-3 years if he's playing well enough that Bradley would regret not having offered him.
 
PTownHawkeye said:
On that list, the one team I'm pulling for is Furman. They are led by freshman and former Richwoods guard Justin Dehm. He is leading the team in scoring and from the articles I've read is having a very impressive season. I'll be curious in 2-3 years if he's playing well enough that Bradley would regret not having offered him.
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I actually liked Dehm out of Richwoods, and was surprised he didn't get more offers from MVC schools. He is a good shooter, can handle the ball, and is a pretty hard-nosed kid. I think he's averaging about 10 points per game, but has twice as many turnovers as assists. Doesn't sound like he has many good options to pass to though.
 
Dubl R 1 said:
I actually liked Dehm out of Richwoods, and was surprised he didn't get more offers from MVC schools. He is a good shooter, can handle the ball, and is a pretty hard-nosed kid. I think he's averaging about 10 points per game, but has twice as many turnovers as assists. Doesn't sound like he has many good options to pass to though.
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I agree, he'd have a hard time getting minutes with Sam and Will here.
 
Dubl R 1 said:
I actually liked Dehm out of Richwoods, and was surprised he didn't get more offers from MVC schools. He is a good shooter, can handle the ball, and is a pretty hard-nosed kid. I think he's averaging about 10 points per game, but has twice as many turnovers as assists. Doesn't sound like he has many good options to pass to though.
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Do you think if Sam M was our starting point guard and getting those minutes, he would have like numbers? I hate to say it, but I think so.

Obviously schedules are different, but they are both freshmen learning a new system, playing way better talent then in high school.
 
NJIT lost again to go 0-13. La-Laf lost as well (0-6 but 1-0 vs NonD1) but I will update that other list less regularly.

Winless:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1
Ball State - 0-8
Canisius - 0-8
Furman - 0-7
Grambling - 0-4 - 0-2
NJIT - 0-13​
 
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NJIT---their home gym is a laughably small gym, and you have to see it to believe it. They claim it holds 1000, but that would probably include the band, and everyone else who is standing.
The fans only sit on one side, and the teams' benches sit up against a wall on the other side.
As you can see....a lot of the fans have absolutely nowhere to sit....would this be allowed in Illinois by the fire marshall?
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Here is a pic of a guy shooting a jump shot from the corner of the court, and note that a wall with a picture is within a couple feet behind him.
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Here is a pic of the teams' benches up against the wall only a foot outside the sideline of the court.
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There also is absolutely no room at the ends of the court, and there is a wall only a few feet off the baseline
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Even the ceiling is very low and probably alters some players' shots!!!
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Here is the gym from the outside....it looks a little like one of the OLD dorms up on BU's campus.
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The fans sit on wooden bleachers right up against the sidelines
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Here is a pic from their good old days...the arena hasn't changed much
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Grambling remains on the list, dropping a home game to Non-D1 Wiley 86-85.

Winless:


Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1
Ball State - 0-8
Canisius - 0-8
Furman - 0-7
Grambling - 0-4 - 0-2
NJIT - 0-13​
 
Canisius beat Coastal Carolina to get off the list. (Furman game still in progress)

Winless:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1

Ball State - 0-8
Furman - 0-7
Grambling - 0-4 - 0-2
NJIT - 0-13

Updating the other list of Winless (yet beat a Non-D1)....
S Miss gets their 1st win against a Div 1 team vs Alabama St. N Florida and Sac St both lost to Div 1 teams while SC Upstate lost to a Non-D1.

Winless vs D1 but have beaten non-D1:​

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1
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Alabama A&M - 0-4 - 3-0
Alcorn St - 0-6 - 1-1
E Illinois - 0-8 - 1-0
Jacksonville St - 0-7 - 2-0
Lamar - 0-5 - 3-0
Miss Valley St - 0-8 - 1-0
N Florida - 0-7 - 1-0
Sacramento St - 0-8 - 2-0
SC Upstate - 0-7 - 1-1
UL Lafayette - 0-5 - 1-0​
 
Unbelievable as it may seem... SC Upstate won... on the road. And UL-Laf took themselves off the list recently.

Updated lists:

Winless:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1​

Ball State - 0-8
Furman - 0-8 (losing vs Murray St currently)
Grambling - 0-4 - 0-2
NJIT - 0-13​


Winless vs D1 but have beaten non-D1:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1​




Alabama A&M - 0-5 - 3-0

Alcorn St - 0-7 - 1-1
E Illinois - 0-9 - 1-0
Jacksonville St - 0-7 - 2-0
Lamar - 0-5 - 3-0
Miss Valley St - 0-8 - 1-0
N Florida - 0-7 - 1-0
Sacramento St - 0-8 - 2-0​

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Updated:

Winless:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1


Ball State - 0-10
Furman - 0-9
Grambling - 0-4 - 0-2
NJIT - 0-13​



Winless vs D1 but have beaten non-D1:​


Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1

Alabama A&M - 0-5 - 3-0
Alcorn St - 0-8 - 1-1 (and losing to S Miss)
E Illinois - 0-10 - 1-0
Jacksonville St - 0-9 - 2-0
Lamar - 0-6 - 3-0
Miss Valley St - 0-8 - 1-0
N Florida - 0-9 - 1-0
Sacramento St - 0-8 - 2-0​
 
Lamar and MVSU got D1 wins.

Updated thru games played on 12/23:

Winless:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1


Ball State - 0-11
Furman - 0-10
Grambling - 0-4 - 0-2
NJIT - 0-13



Winless vs D1 but have beaten non-D1:


Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1

Alabama A&M - 0-6 - 3-0
Alcorn St - 0-9 - 1-1
E Illinois - 0-10 - 1-0
Jacksonville St - 0-9 - 2-0
N Florida - 0-9 - 1-0
Sacramento St - 0-8 - 2-0​
 
Furman gets off the list by beating Howard.

Updated thru games played on 12/29:

Winless:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1

Ball State - 0-11
Grambling - 0-5 - 0-2
NJIT - 0-13


Winless vs D1 but have beaten non-D1:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1

Alabama A&M - 0-6 - 3-0
Alcorn St - 0-10 - 1-1
E Illinois - 0-11 - 1-0
Jacksonville St - 0-10 - 2-0
N Florida - 0-10 - 1-0
Sacramento St - 0-9 - 2-0​
 
2 completely Winless left and 6 more that have yet to beat a Div1 team.

Ball St wins over IPFW and is off the list - congrats to Asst Coach Mo.


Winless:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1 (next game)

Grambling - 0-5 - 0-2 (1/5 Ala St)
NJIT - 0-15 (1/2 @ Navy)


Winless vs D1 but have beaten non-D1:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1 (next game)

Alabama A&M - 0-6 - 3-0 (1/2 @ O'Miss)
Alcorn St - 0-11 - 1-1 (1/5 @ Tx So)
E Illinois - 0-11 - 1-0 (1/3 Murray St)
Jacksonville St - 0-10 - 2-0 (1/5 @ Aus Peay)
N Florida - 0-11 - 1-0 (1/3 Fl-GC)
Sacramento St - 0-9 - 2-0 (1/3 @ Port St)​
 
Winless:

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1 (next game)

Grambling - 0-6 - 0-2 (1/7 Ala A&M)
NJIT - 0-17 (1/12 Columbia)​

Winless vs D1 but have beaten non-D1:​

Team - Record vs D1 - Record vs NonD1 (next game)​

Alabama A&M - 0-8 - 3-0 (1/7 @ Grambling)
Alcorn St - 0-12 - 1-1 (1/7 @ PrViewA&M)
Jacksonville St - 0-11 - 2-0 (1/7 Samford)
N Florida - 0-13 - 1-0 (1/10 @ Mercer)
Sacramento St - 0-11 - 2-0 (1/10 Mont St)​
 
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