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RB was one of 152 tested and he was the only one who failed. If schools know the penalties going in then you suffer the consequences
Was he the only one??
Then what gives with this story??
(which describes a Marquette player who tested positive for marijuana in March of 2006 and suspended for a year)
Sounds like someone is not telling the truth.
Couldn't be the NCAA or the Journal Star, could it??
Well if I read the story properly that happened in1996. The player got the same suspension time. 10 years later RB gets tested in the tourney and gets the same penalty. i meant 1 of 152 tested during this yrae's tourney, but the fact that this rule was in effect 10 years ago tells me that most DO NOT consider it excessive or it would have been changed on th last ten years.
In regards to the other links you posted in previous post, it looks like those were the schools testing not NCAA..so i'm guessing penalties could be different.
NCAA testing in Marquette case and BU was during NCAA tournament
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RB was one of 152 tested and he was the only one who failed. If schools know the penalties going in then you suffer the consequences
Was he the only one??
Then what gives with this story??
(which describes a Marquette player who tested positive for marijuana in March of 2006 and suspended for a year)
Sounds like someone is not telling the truth.
Couldn't be the NCAA or the Journal Star, could it??
Well if I read the story properly that happened in1996. The player got the same suspension time. 10 years later RB gets tested in the tourney and gets the same penalty. i meant 1 of 152 tested during this yrae's tourney, but the fact that this rule was in effect 10 years ago tells me that most DO NOT consider it excessive or it would have been changed on th last ten years.
In regards to the other links you posted in previous post, it looks like those were the schools testing not NCAA..so i'm guessing penalties could be different.
NCAA testing in Marquette case and BU was during NCAA tournament
good points, lefty. tornado is clouding the issue. nothing can change the fact that the ncaa rule and penalty is clearly spelled out and ray brown broke the rule. now he must pay the penalty. to bring in other stories about civil cases isn't the same as ncaa testing. really that simple, now that i think about.
what i also have thought about is the fact that ray is elgible to practice.how do you think that will pan out? can he play in the red-white scrimmage?
Did it occur to anyone why no players from other schools tested positive. Many schools test their own players before the NCAAs to avoid just this result. Bradley either decided to play the odds or was inexperienced with NCAA Tourney rules.
I hope Ray keeps his head up. Sounds like a victimless crime.
the ncca is a joke. ray smokes a little weed, a victimless crime, and gets a year suspension. siu's tatum gets a dui and the ncaa does nothing. tatum's act could have killed an innocent person. doesn't seem even close to being fair.
just seems like the ncaa is picking on bu. first the pob and franklin mess and now this. boo ncaa.
You forgot, Ray could have gotten in a car and killed someone too... Or, if he wasn't caught and punished he may have continued and got into worse trouble.
c'mon. get real. he didn't drive a car. smoking a little weed is probably less harmful than the binge drinking down on farmington road or the frat houses.you'd think people would be more educated on pot in 2006.
Come on... Get real... He could have been driving a car! Were you with him the only time he smoked to see that he didn't? You sound like a college student, so I can assume that I was educated on pot long before you were born. Most of us experienmented back in the 70's during high school, but most of us were smart enough to stop before college so we didn't do something to screw up our lives. The ones that were not smart enough normally screwed their lives up to some extent and many are now working at the local convienent store at age 40! Apparently you will only understand that after you live a little longer and gain some more insight into life. Oh, and by the way, Lakeview Brave you are 100% correct on all accounts!
you are right. i am a college student but that still doesn't mean that i as uneducated about pot. to me, alcohol is more of a problem that pot. also, pot doesn't doesn't enhance a players performance. so who is he hurting?
Q. Who is he hurting?
A. Himself
I agree that alcohol is probably a bigger problem, but Pot is illegal, period. If Pot were legal, I might do it, but it is not and I don't and he shouldn't.
Part 2 of "who is he hurting?"
After hurting himself, here is a partial list:
The team (now not as good)
The coaches (their careers)
The university (reputation)
The students (he goes free)
The fans (ticket and other costs)
Part 2 of "who is he hurting?"
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The fans (ticket and other costs)
I am sure there are more, but gotta go...
Selfishly, this hurts a fan like me 'cause now I gotta put up with every jack-as(s) Illini, ISU and SIU fan I know.
SIU had a guy get a DUI, Illinois can't seal the deal on any recruits, and BU had a guy suspended for weed. They've got no room to talk.
And if anyone from Illinois really gets on you, ask them about their football program. They're on probation for paying a kid, just agreed to harbor a reject from Maryland, and continue to be one of the worst programs in the nation. Believe me, anyone who tries to give you grief should take a look in the mirror.
My question is if the NCAA conducts the testing and you fail is it an automatic one year suspension? If they make that known to all then it wouldn't make any difference who failed in one of their tests. RB was one of 152 tested and he was the only one who failed. If schools know the penalties going in then you suffer the consequences
This is not correct, Lefty. According to the PJ Star article, the last year for which statistics are available is 2004-2005, in which 152 NCAA Division I basketball athletes were tested, and 1 tested positive. That was 2004-2005, and the test involving Ray was in 2006. We don't know how many were tested or were positive this year.
I am really glad Ray was just smokin a little weed. Just think what kind of penalty he might have gotten if he had slapped around or raped his girlfriend, or shot off a loaded weapon on campus, or knocked off a liquor store.
Part 2 of "who is he hurting?"
...
The fans (ticket and other costs)
I am sure there are more, but gotta go...
Selfishly, this hurts a fan like me 'cause now I gotta put up with every jack-as(s) Illini, ISU and SIU fan I know.
well if ya dish it out ya gotta be ready to take it. hardly any school doesn't have any problems that another fan can't kid or razz them about. freind of mine was at iowa state when their basketball coach larry e. got in trouble(drinking and chasing the college girls). boy did i have fun kidding him about that
I am really glad Ray was just smokin a little weed. Just think what kind of penalty he might have gotten if he had slapped around or raped his girlfriend, or shot off a loaded weapon on campus, or knocked off a liquor store.
if he would have done those things he would have been kicked off the team.
Part 2 of "who is he hurting?"
...
The fans (ticket and other costs)
I am sure there are more, but gotta go...
Selfishly, this hurts a fan like me 'cause now I gotta put up with every jack-as(s) Illini, ISU and SIU fan I know.
well if ya dish it out ya gotta be ready to take it. hardly any school doesn't have any problems that another fan can't kid or razz them about. freind of mine was at iowa state when their basketball coach larry e. got in trouble(drinking and chasing the college girls). boy did i have fun kidding him about that
I understand what you mean.
I am typically a kind of guy that lets things speak for themselves.
I am usually not on the 'offensive'. Yet, IMO, I pack a pretty solid 'defensive'.
So you see, it comes to me first - I have to first take it - then I dish it back out.
Funny how all during the 2004-05 season, I saw Illini fans all the time telling me that I should root for 'history in the making' and since I am a resident of Illinois it should be no problem (and my duty as a resident). Then funnier, I never saw those worthless crack-pipes after mid-February of this past season.
So yes - dish it - you better be ready to take it. In my situation, it seems like I always have to take it.
Monday is gonna be an interesting day. Sure I am going to see a few people I haven't seen for a while. If you run into me - I will be the guy proudly wearing red. Try to stick a fork in me - be ready to get a knife in return.
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