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  • #16
    IMO, if it WAS because of the fight and he was going to be suspended for this game it should have been announced earlier, not the night of the game.
    What part of illegal don't you understand?

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    • #17
      I just saw on Brown's Twitter page that he has now locked out his tweets to the public. Has it been like this for awhile or wonder if it had something to do with tonight.

      Jason

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      • #18
        I hear ya. But the guy who's decision it is, disagrees.
        He prefers to keep it a secret.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Chico View Post
          IMO, if it WAS because of the fight and he was going to be suspended for this game it should have been announced earlier, not the night of the game.

          Why.......


          Thanks.....

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          • #20
            Guys...can we not make more out of this than it is? There was speculation about a month or so ago that there may be a 1-2 game penalty for TB, and that perhaps it might be out of JL's control. Well, there's your proof. We all know the kid got in trouble over the summer. Right or wrong, he got in trouble. So he's paying a penalty. I'd much rather have him miss BYU and Idaho St than SIU and ISU or any 2 conference games for that matter.

            Second, why would JL make this public? It's an internal matter, and if anything it made BYU waste some time preparing for Taylor Brown.

            Let's not make a mountain out of a molehill. TB got in trouble this summer, he's doing his time, and he'll be back sooner than later. End of story.
            Onward and Upward!

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            • #21
              This team showed me something tonight....

              Only 8 turnovers after the sloppy first 5 minutes. A few bad possessions and forced shots by the two Sams, but overall, they kept their composure well and didn't make too many careless mistakes. IF(and it's a big IF until proven otherwise) they can play with the same intensity regardless of opponent, night in and night out, this can be a top 3 squad in the valley. This also is accepting that TB is as advertised(the next theron) because without better rebounding , we are dead. With all that said, I now project us at 9-3 Non-con, 11-7 valley, 20-10 going into st .louis. No hopes of at large with 10 losses and the BCS bias stronger than ever, but if we can get the 2 or 3 seed, I like our shot. Long way to go, but a really encouraging start tonight, Brown's absence notwithstanding. Losses to Illinois, Iowa st or NIU, and wins in every other non con. Wofford is still a threat, but again, play with the intensity we did tonight, and we win easily.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Chico View Post
                IMO, if it WAS because of the fight and he was going to be suspended for this game it should have been announced earlier, not the night of the game.
                Whats the logic in that? It only helps the opponent...

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                • #23
                  According to the PJStar article, he was out because of the fight and he will also miss Sunday.
                  Walk on, Walk on
                  With hope in your hearts,
                  and You'll Never Walk Alone

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Fyrebyrd View Post
                    According to the PJStar article, he was out because of the fight and he will also miss Sunday.
                    Thank you! I'm not sure why people somehow think the school is obligated to announce to the public ahead of time that a player will not be playing in a certain game. I'm actually surprised they announced that he's suspended for Sunday's game too, since I don't feel they owe us any of that information in advance.
                    ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by real fan View Post
                      Don"t you think that if Taylor was suspended for the fight that happened a long time ago that Les would have said that he would be sitting out ...

                      nope...it was part of the plan, so as not to let the opponent know in advance and allow them preparation..
                      TB's absence was probably the difference, as a few extra rebounds would have neutralized some of their offensive rebounds and putbacks...I think we have a chance to win with TB.
                      But it was the right decision because JL is the coach.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                        As much as it hurts the team, JL made the the tough, right decision. You cannot expect discipline if you don't enforce it.
                        Yep, it's called accountability for your actions, too bad more college coaches don't do this.

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                        • #27
                          I am happy to be wrong about the reason for his suspension but on the other hand I think 2 games for what he did is a little harsh, I got a feeling that this came from the PRES. of the University and once again our athletes seem to be penalized more for their actions. I do believe in penalties but it just seems to me that the punishment does not fit the crime.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by real fan View Post
                            I am happy to be wrong about the reason for his suspension but on the other hand I think 2 games for what he did is a little harsh, I got a feeling that this came from the PRES. of the University and once again our athletes seem to be penalized more for their actions. I do believe in penalties but it just seems to me that the punishment does not fit the crime.
                            I agree here. Don't know if it was the pres or the coach... But the punishment seems very harsh for the crime.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by real fan View Post
                              I am happy to be wrong about the reason for his suspension but on the other hand I think 2 games for what he did is a little harsh, I got a feeling that this came from the PRES. of the University and once again our athletes seem to be penalized more for their actions. I do believe in penalties but it just seems to me that the punishment does not fit the crime.
                              Originally posted by thefish7 View Post
                              I agree here. Don't know if it was the pres or the coach... But the punishment seems very harsh for the crime.
                              Agree... I can see one game and give him extra things to do after practice etc, but two games is a bit harsh!
                              Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                              ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                              • #30
                                This decision lacked imagination, it had bad timing, wasn't well thought out, and hurt the chances for the team to win. The fight happened in September. There could have be dozens of other punishments given to Brown between that time and last night's game. With some imagination Coach could have had him doing constructive "time" by doing community service work or working with HS kids. Extra push-ups, sprints, late-night workouts, extra hours of running after practice. Here's one... Making him go to EVERY athletic event by all the other BU teams and supporting teams that don't play in front of a crowd. There were endless possibilities of punishments that would have been very uncomfortable for TB without hurting the team & fans. No, just the 'ole game suspension bit. Not something that may be a positive for TB and the team and/or the community. No thought. No imagination. That's what I have come to expect from our coach and that's what I got.

                                That was a winnable game last night and one that would have meant something down the road. I'm sure Coach Les got a delight out of the game by staying close by playing 4 guards the whole game. That's what he has shown to love--guards and trying to prove he can win with guards. And does it really matter in his job security since he is the "golden boy" of BU basketball who has the job forever...

                                This has been coming for a few years (mostly because year in and year out BU finishes 4-6 in the league), but I've had it with Les. Done, period, over for me. Last night's decision was bad, period. Many more positive things could have come out of more creative punishments. Even something as easy as suspending him for a couple cupcake games that we could win with 4 guards? He still would have to sit and watch just like last night.

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