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I guess it would be better than being criticized for not having good enough guards, or coaches, as the reason for lack of more success by BU....
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they just followed that with Northern Iowa at #60..but again they display a horrid degreeOriginally posted by tornado View Post
of doing anything like preparation or homework! They say this...
"Jacobson doesn’t have a lot of size up-front.."
They then proceed to discuss the potential frontcourt which belies that statement about size...
Jake Koch, 6-9 ("will slide into the spot that his older brother played")
Lucas O’Rear, solid 6-6 ("while undersized..will provide the muscle down low")
Austin Pehl, 6-10 245lb ("is an unproven commodity")
(actually these 3 guys are about as good as anyone else's top 3 frontcourt players - so maybe the guy should have stopped there)
But the very next words continuing the same sentence discussing frontcourt...
... "and freshman Matt Morrison
needs to add some meat to his skinny frame making the frontcourt
depth an area of concern."
Say what??? Matt Morrison is 5-11 guard?? I guarantee he isn't gonna play the frontcourt..
Then what about 6-8 Nate Buss??
..and freshman Chip Rank is listed at 6-7 215lb??
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Collegehoopsnet.com continues......
#105 Kent State
#104 Utah -- future BU opponent
#103 Montana
#102 Northeastern
#101 UCSB (Cal-Santa Barbara)
#100 Indiana - seriously ?? They are again going to be one of the weakest teams in the Big Ten and finished last year with RPI 222.
I said this last year when the guy ranked them #109...and indeed they were way worse...ending with RPI 222...
Here's a recap......
#144 South Carolina
#143 Quinnipiac
#142 Wyoming
#141 Charleston
#140 Jackson State
#139 Santa Clara
#138 Tennessee Tech
#137 Wake Forest
#136 Siena
#135 Princeton
#134 East Tennesee State
#133 Sam Houston State
#132 Cleveland State
#131 Indiana State - picked to finish 7th in the MVC
#130 Florida Atlantic
#129 Marshall
#128 South Florida
#127 Southern Illinois - picked for 6th in the Valley
#126 Virginia
#125 Miami (OH)
#124 Morgan State
#123 UAB
#122 Davidson
#121 Bucknell
#120 USC (future BU opponent)
#119 Wright State
#118 Long Beach
#117 Weber State
#116 Oral Roberts
#115 Boston Univ.
#114 Harvard
#113 Louisiana Tech
#112 Winthrop
#111 Stony Brook
#110 North Texas
#109 IUPUI
#108 Boston College
#107 Belmont
#106 Arkansas
#105 Kent State
#104 Utah -- future BU opponent
#103 Montana
#102 Northeastern
#101 UCSB
#100 IndianaComment
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We should see a Valley team pretty soon now.Originally posted by tornado View PostCollegehoopsnet.com continues......
#105 Kent State
#104 Utah -- future BU opponent
#103 Montana
#102 Northeastern
#101 UCSB (Cal-Santa Barbara)
#100 Indiana - seriously ?? They are again going to be one of the weakest teams in the Big Ten and finished last year with RPI 222.
I said this last year when the guy ranked them #109...and indeed they were way worse...ending with RPI 222...
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Probably BU or UNI I would think.
Let me guess just for fun:
UNI (85-90)
BU (80-85)
CU (70-75)
MSU (55-60)
WSU (40-45)Comment
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Next batch --
#99 George Washington
#98 Oakland
#97 Iona
#96 OKlahoma
#95 Charlotte
#94 Providence (this one has me stumped -- Keno has nobody -- he was 4-14 in the Big East and lot his final 11 and 13 of their final 14!
They finished barely better than DePaul, lost almost all his scorers, and all he has are incoming new freshmen and redshirt freshmen! No way this is gonna be a top 100 team)Comment
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I haven't heard much about Providence since Keno took over. I agree with you, T. They finished #140 in RPI (just because they were in the Big-E)Originally posted by tornado View Post
Oakland seems to have produced some good teams the last few seasons. They lost 2 of their top 3 scorers to graduation, but should still be solid I think. I don't think they want to return to Carver anytime soon.
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I think the guys at CHN are more than generous to mid-major teams....
and every year seem to include a few that aren't good at all, but they're apparently included just to get a broad range of teams from every conference.
Example -- these guys were picked around #120 last year - Holy Cross...
..but they were really bad and won only 9 games, and probbaly anyone could have seen that coming...
Even Binghamton, knowing all their problems and issues, the CHN guys picked them for #110 -- and just about everyone else in American knew they'd be bad - and they were...RPI about 250Comment
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Very true.
Let's see where they have our top 5 Valley schools. About 4 very good teams this season that could contend for MVC title, but those schools are not strong enough (at least heading into the season) to say they should be picked to win the Valley.
If I were doing the ratings for CHN Top 144, I would place them so: (not to say this is where I think they'll end up by season's end!)
ISU (blue) #135
DU #130
ISU (red) #110
UNI #85
BU #80
CU #75
MSU #55
WSU #45Comment
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The next batch on the CHN countdown...Bradley comes in at #91
#93 Detroit
#92 Colorado
#91 Bradley
#90 Western Kentucky
#89 Stephen F. Austin
here's their discussion of Bradley...picked 5th in the MVC
...it's fairly good review...but not a single mention of either Prosser, Walt, or Davis...
Here's a complete update to this point...
#144 South Carolina
#143 Quinnipiac
#142 Wyoming
#141 Charleston
#140 Jackson State
#139 Santa Clara
#138 Tennessee Tech
#137 Wake Forest
#136 Siena
#135 Princeton
#134 East Tennesee State
#133 Sam Houston State
#132 Cleveland State
#131 Indiana State - picked to finish 7th in the MVC
#130 Florida Atlantic
#129 Marshall
#128 South Florida
#127 Southern Illinois - picked for 6th in the Valley
#126 Virginia
#125 Miami (OH)
#124 Morgan State
#123 UAB
#122 Davidson
#121 Bucknell
#120 USC
#119 Wright State
#118 Long Beach
#117 Weber State
#116 Oral Roberts
#115 Boston Univ.
#114 Harvard
#113 Louisiana Tech
#112 Winthrop
#111 Stony Brook
#110 North Texas
#109 IUPUI
#108 Boston College
#107 Belmont
#106 Arkansas
#105 Kent State
#104 Utah
#103 Montana
#102 Northeastern
#101 UCSB
#100 Indiana
#99 George Washington
#98 Oakland
#97 Iona
#96 OKlahoma
#95 Charlotte
#94 Providence
#93 Detroit
#92 Colorado
#91 Bradley - picked 5th in the MVC
#90 Western Kentucky
#89 Stephen F. AustinComment
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Yet another 5th-place pick. I guess the Valley will be much stronger this season......Originally posted by tornado View PostThe next batch on the CHN countdown...Bradley comes in at #91
#93 Detroit
#92 Colorado
#91 Bradley
#90 Western Kentucky
#89 Stephen F. Austin
here's their discussion of Bradley...picked 5th in the MVC
...it's fairly good review...but not a single mention of either Prosser, Walt, or Davis...
With four starters returning and plenty of depth on the bench, Coach Jim Les should put together a team that should finish with a much better record.
But wait.....
This is not as tough of a Missouri Valley Conference as it was a few years ago and Bradley has the experience and talent to make a nice run if everything goes their way.
BTW.....
Key Newcomers:
None of the newcomers will be asked to do much this season, but some depth in the frontcourt would be helpful. Jordan Prosser redshirted last year and his one year on the bench may make him the likely candidate to see a few minutes here and there. The ???Milk Man??™ can do a little bit of everything and has enough size to fill in at the four or five spot. Andrew Davis is an incoming freshman who will try and find some minutes as well. However, the 6-10, 215 pound Edmond, Oklahoma product needs to add more girth before he will be much of a factor in the paint. The lone newcomer on the perimeter is Walter Lemon who will find it very difficult to get minutes barring more injuries.
???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12Comment
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When did JP become the "Milk Man"
Pretty lame.
In recognition of Caterpillar's generous support of BU, perhaps JP could be known as "The Bulldozer"
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The guy writing this must read each player's bio on the BU web site...or must have google'd Prosser and found the PJS column...
that's essentially the only mentions of the milk thing on Prosser..
btw-- I meant there was no mention of the newcomers in any discussion of frontcourt/backcourt/who to watch, etc...Comment
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It was a decent writeup. Hopefully, Milos is never playing center.
It does make it sound like DSE is just another guy coming off the bench to give time to the starters. I really have high expectations for him and expect him to be a big contributor. I don't see him being a role player anymore.1996 & 2019Comment
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