BU still looking for another game.

[Da Coach]

If fans don't realize what a tremendously difficult thing scheduling is, and how great a job Bradley does and how much time and effort the Bradley staff puts into it, they are uninformed.

Where is that being argued?

I am not saying anyone here is arguing this issue. I think most serious fans understand this.
But I hear it all the time from mostly the casual fan, and I suspect others do, too, "why can't we get (Big Ten or other top teams) on our home schedule".

[tornado]

More than 50% of all D-I schools have not yet completed their schedules, and I believe only one valley team has their fully complete.

[squirrelgotdead]

Scheduling is hard, so when you suggest it really isn't and that coaches "make it hard on themselves"
and if they had any smarts they'd figure it out like some of the fans already have...
then I kinda snicker at that concept...

Snicker away. As someone who knows a lot more about this subject than you or I once said to me (paraphrasing):

Is getting the perfect schedule compiled hard? Yes. But the actual scheduling of games is not hard. Most coaches have multiple options presented to them for their open dates.

At the end of the day, if you have 50 schools who need a game but 40 refuse to do anything other than a home game, that's not the scheduling being hard, that's people making it hard on themselves.

[TheAsianSensation]

Let's put it this way: Filling out a schedule is easy. Filling out the schedule you WANT is a bit tougher

[tornado]

all I can go on here is that I have spoken face to face with three different D-I head coaches, one of whom is now a head coach at his 4th school, plus a long time D-I Athletic Director...
all of whom I have heard many times talk of their difficulties scheduling and saying things like
"scheduling is perhaps the single hardest thing we do" and "people just don't realize how hard it is to schedule"

Those very words are almost precisely what other head coaches are saying in all those stories I have been linking to..
here's just one of them in which it talks how Wichita tried calling DOZENS of those schools that SAY THEY HAVE an open date available -- but then they never actually negotiate with you because they're afraid of getting beat at home by a solid mid-major..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/13/AR2010061303909.html

Jank even sounds bitter that he couldn't get the very teams to play him that he was the assistant coach for a couple years earlier..

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3812982

Call it what you want -- frustrating, making it difficult -- but the head coaches of the solid upper level mid-majors all say it is HARD...Gregg Marshall says "It is almost impossible".


Here's just a little bit more...but if you think scheduling is easy or is NOT hard..
then show me ONE other person who agrees with you who actually does it!!!
I have shown you dozens of people who agree with me that actually DO the scheduling...
Here are more..

http://salukihoops.blogspot.com/2010/08/competitive-scheduling-from-mvc.html

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/12511/scheduling-still-difficult-for-mid-majors

[dogsrus]

This is where we get our "Mid-Major" status. Not good enough for Big Ten teams, but too good for quite a few programs (Like EIU).

No we get our "mid" status basically becuase we don't have BCS football and out budget is well below what they consider majors.....

[BUFanatic]

No we get our "mid" status basically becuase we don't have BCS football and out budget is well below what they consider majors.....

meh, potatoe potato.

[Chico]

Does ASU have those date open? Chances are that those dates are not open for them.

Don't know. Just saying I would like to have it happen.

[SFP]

Let's put it this way: Filling out a schedule is easy. Filling out the schedule you WANT is a bit tougher

Agreed! I know from experiencing filling in that last game is pretty hard. Stanford has an open date when we do but they want a home game. We could go on the road but then the our home schedule would be woeful and our guys on the road a ton.

[AZ BU Fan]

Non Con W-L records mostly affect at large selections and tournament seeding.

If the NCAA Selection Committee would discount/ignore home wins vs bottom 1/2 RPI or Div II opponents, discount road losses to top 1/3 RPI schools, and emphasize road wins vs top 1/3 RPI schools in their at large selection criteria, and, in tournament seeding, it might make it easier for Coaches/Athletic Directors to schedule better Non Con games.

Wouldn't better non con scheduling improve NCAA/Individual Team leverage with more lucrative TV/Radio contracts?

Just a thought...

[srw]

Tornado, the one thing that any coach would say, but fans wont is:

FANS ARENT WORRIED ABOUT GETTING FIRED!!!!!

Scheduling is difficult, but its much more difficult because of the reason above.

Scheduling would be infinitely easier if records didnt effect hirings/firings.

But we are all capitalists, and of course it does.

Its just the nature of the game...But you wouldnt believe some of the games that get turned down because of ridiculous reasons.

[BradleyBrave]

Tornado, the one thing that any coach would say, but fans wont is:

FANS ARENT WORRIED ABOUT GETTING FIRED!!!!!

Scheduling is difficult, but its much more difficult because of the reason above.

Scheduling would be infinitely easier if records didnt effect hirings/firings.

But we are all capitalists, and of course it does.

Its just the nature of the game...But you wouldnt believe some of the games that get turned down because of ridiculous reasons.

We may not be capitalists for much longer if certain people have their way!

[tornado]

Tornado, the one thing that any coach would say, but fans wont is:

FANS ARENT WORRIED ABOUT GETTING FIRED!!!!!

Scheduling is difficult, but its much more difficult because of the reason above.

Scheduling would be infinitely easier if records didnt effect hirings/firings.

But we are all capitalists, and of course it does.

Its just the nature of the game...But you wouldnt believe some of the games that get turned down because of ridiculous reasons.

If a coach would ever get FIRED simply because of who he schedules then it would more than likely be because he scheduled along the lines of Jank, not along the lines of JL.
There are schools where every year they land several big-but-almost-certain loss-type guarantee games, and yet their head coaches have been re-upped over and over for a decade or more and are in no risk of getting FIRED..

so I contend that if a coach gets fired, it's not as likely to be due to who you scheduled, but who you LOST TO!

[squirrelgotdead]

so I contend that if a coach gets fired, it's not as likely to be due to who you scheduled, but who you LOST TO!

That's right. . .a large of element is who you lose to. That's part of what feeds the coaches paranoia. They know on an off night, even the 250th rated team could have a ridiculous night and beat them. And on an off year, that alone could be enough to cost them their job.

But that also spills over into scheduling. Coaches will always have a few "challenge" games on their that won't risk their job security. But beyond that, nearly all DI coaches will only play people on their terms, and frankly that's unreasonable and not an excuse for scheduling being hard.

[srw]

If a coach would ever get FIRED simply because of who he schedules then it would more than likely be because he scheduled along the lines of Jank, not along the lines of JL.
There are schools where every year they land several big-but-almost-certain loss-type guarantee games, and yet their head coaches have been re-upped over and over for a decade or more and are in no risk of getting FIRED..

so I contend that if a coach gets fired, it's not as likely to be due to who you scheduled, but who you LOST TO!

You, are exactly right, making my point, that is the reason they have such a hard time scheduling.