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  • BUfan14
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    Originally posted by Dubl R 1 View Post

    And there in lies the stupidity of it all....it's all relative. Dumber yet is that when we beat Drake, they were only a quad 2 team at the time, but by the time we lost to them in the tourney they were then considered a quad 1. LOL ITS THE SAME TEAM!!!

    So stupid
    I do believe the quadrant of the win changes as the team does though. So Bradley would get credit for whatever the opponent is at year's end. I believe it is only top 30 teams in a home game that qualify though as Quad 1, so the Drake win at home would never have been quad 1 for Bradley at any point this year.

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  • houstonbrave
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    Lance Jones of SIU into the portal.

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  • Dubl R 1
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    Originally posted by Tommy View Post

    What is a signature win and who gets to define that? And just to be clear, if you play another team that would be a signature win, but that teams only signature win came against you, then those wins don't count as signature wins? I'm just trying to understand here.
    And there in lies the stupidity of it all....it's all relative. Dumber yet is that when we beat Drake, they were only a quad 2 team at the time, but by the time we lost to them in the tourney they were then considered a quad 1. LOL ITS THE SAME TEAM!!!

    So stupid

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  • Tommy
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    Originally posted by Stryker View Post

    Neither Drake or BU had a signature win all season, unless you count the games they played against each other.
    What is a signature win and who gets to define that? And just to be clear, if you play another team that would be a signature win, but that teams only signature win came against you, then those wins don't count as signature wins? I'm just trying to understand here.

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  • Stryker
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    Originally posted by BradleyBiz View Post

    I don't feel like the MVC was as weak as the 'experts' made it out to be...especially the top tier teams. Drake should have beat the team that ended up in the Final Four. BU lost to a team that made the NIT Final Four. Look at C-USA - who has a FF team in FAU and both of the teams in the NIT final. FAU's best non-conf win was Florida (finished 8th in SEC) and they lost to Ole Miss (finished 13th in SEC). UNT lost all non-conf games against good competition. UAB's best win was against Georgia (finished 11th in SEC). I don't think anyone would say that C-USA knocked it out of the park in the Non-con season. A big difference? C-USA only had 3 teams that were north of 200 in the NET rankings. MVC had 6 teams above 200 (with one at 350). I think that helped C-USA put 3 teams in the top 60 of NET rankings. Even then, they still were a one-bid league.

    If the MVC bottom tier can become less awful...it will bolster the top tier's rankings and increase the chances of a 2-bid league.
    I agree, the bottom of the MVC really really hurt the conference this year. However, I completely disagree with your assessment on how weak the MVC was this year. Neither Drake or BU had a signature win all season, unless you count the games they played against each other. Maybe Drake with the MSU game. BU was 1-7 against good teams, with the sole win against Drake, and every one of the losses by double digits. The difference is that BU and Drake didn't win a post season game and the CUSA teams sure have. That is the difference, and enough for me to say the MVC was weak this year. Also note the good records by the top MVC teams was likely just due to the terrible rosters of the bottom MVC teams, along with the addition of 2 more conference games.

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  • BradleyBiz
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    Originally posted by Stryker View Post

    Yeah, I am really interested in seeing how some of these "Top MVC" players perform after they leave. Given how weak the MVC was this year, I am starting to wonder if some of the top players who went in the portal already are going to have a rude awaking when they arrive at their new school.
    I don't feel like the MVC was as weak as the 'experts' made it out to be...especially the top tier teams. Drake should have beat the team that ended up in the Final Four. BU lost to a team that made the NIT Final Four. Look at C-USA - who has a FF team in FAU and both of the teams in the NIT final. FAU's best non-conf win was Florida (finished 8th in SEC) and they lost to Ole Miss (finished 13th in SEC). UNT lost all non-conf games against good competition. UAB's best win was against Georgia (finished 11th in SEC). I don't think anyone would say that C-USA knocked it out of the park in the Non-con season. A big difference? C-USA only had 3 teams that were north of 200 in the NET rankings. MVC had 6 teams above 200 (with one at 350). I think that helped C-USA put 3 teams in the top 60 of NET rankings. Even then, they still were a one-bid league.

    If the MVC bottom tier can become less awful...it will bolster the top tier's rankings and increase the chances of a 2-bid league.

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  • tomahawk chop
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    Originally posted by bradleyfan124 View Post
    I read a disturbing article by Palm Beach Post whereby the FAU Coach stated his players are being poached by middlemen even as they are going to play in the final four. They are wanting them to transfer and that there is big money out there for them. That needs to stop!
    This is happening all over because it is not being regulated. The college players are not suppose to be contacted until they decide on their own to go into the portal. They also were not to be promised money until they actually were on campus with the team they were going to play with that season. That was when The NIL people could offer them money for promotions or whatever else . This pay to play was not how this whole thing was suppose to work period. This is why I was against this from the start because there is no way to police it.

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  • bradleyfan124
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    I read a disturbing article by Palm Beach Post whereby the FAU Coach stated his players are being poached by middlemen even as they are going to play in the final four. They are wanting them to transfer and that there is big money out there for them. That needs to stop!

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  • Stryker
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    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post

    Marcus Domask statement- he is also entering the NBA Draft while maintaining his college eligibility.
    https://twitter.com/marcusdomask1/st...79497419489281



    I talked to someone with coaching experience who does not believe Domask is a high major player, and certainly not an NBA player. So where will he go? He is 6'6", and not very athletic. He won't be able to guard high-major forwards, and he's not quick enough to guard the bigger guards. He is an average to slightly above average shooter (he shot 44.7% this season and 34.8% from three- stats below).
    He is a nice player at the mid-major level, and he is similar to the types of shooters that Greg Gard seems to like. So Wisconsin might have interest in him. But can he defend well enough to get playing time?
    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba.../marcus-domask
    Yeah, I am really interested in seeing how some of these "Top MVC" players perform after they leave. Given how weak the MVC was this year, I am starting to wonder if some of the top players who went in the portal already are going to have a rude awaking when they arrive at their new school.

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  • Da Coach
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    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post

    Marcus Domask-


    Lance Jones rumored to be next.


    One other MVC player in the Portal-
    Indiana State freshman Rob Martin- he played in only 12 games, and scored just 11 points this past season-
    https://gosycamores.com/sports/mens-...ob-martin/7044
    Marcus Domask statement- he is also entering the NBA Draft while maintaining his college eligibility.
    https://twitter.com/marcusdomask1/st...79497419489281



    I talked to someone with coaching experience who does not believe Domask is a high major player, and certainly not an NBA player. So where will he go? He is 6'6", and not very athletic. He won't be able to guard high-major forwards, and he's not quick enough to guard the bigger guards. He is an average to slightly above average shooter (he shot 44.7% this season and 34.8% from three- stats below).
    He is a nice player at the mid-major level, and he is similar to the types of shooters that Greg Gard seems to like. So Wisconsin might have interest in him. But can he defend well enough to get playing time?
    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba.../marcus-domask

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  • Nashville Cat
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    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post

    Marcus Domask-


    Lance Jones rumored to be next.


    One other MVC player in the Portal-
    Indiana State freshman Rob Martin- he played in only 12 games, and scored just 11 points this past season-
    https://gosycamores.com/sports/mens-...ob-martin/7044
    UNI and InSu fans celebrate...they're winning the Portal war.

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  • Da Coach
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    Originally posted by Nashville Cat View Post
    Domask in portal
    Marcus Domask-


    Lance Jones rumored to be next.


    One other MVC player in the Portal-
    Indiana State freshman Rob Martin- he played in only 12 games, and scored just 11 points this past season-
    Rob Martin (2) Guard - 2022-23 Did not appear in a game. Prep Led Christian Brothers to a Missouri 6A State Championship and a No. 2 ranking in the state ...

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  • Nashville Cat
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    Domask in portal

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  • BUfan14
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    Originally posted by yoda View Post
    Roberts
    I was referring to this year specifically, but yes last year that was a big hit as well.

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  • houstonbrave
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    Rob Martin a 5-10 freshman point guard at Indiana State enters the portal. He is from St Louis and played very sparingly this year at Indiana State.

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