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real fan said:
This question is for Yeldarb10 ; Why are we losing when we have 3 of the top scorers in the conference in Warren,Crouch, and Maniscalco ? Whose fault is it as someone has to take responsibilty for this? I am only asking for your opinion which is what this board is all about.
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It is combination of several things and one is the fact that best big man who would have been a senior is now sitting on the bench in the pros collecting millions of dollars ( by the way I don't blame him at all as I would have probably done the same thing). When you are coaching you need to recruit players that can contribute at each position and JL had done that but when you bring in 7 new players at one time it takes that year or two to get acclamated to the system. Can you blame the coach? Sure you can but it is not the coach who plays out of position or does not jump and can't time a rebound correctly. It is not the coach who shoots the ball that does not go in the basket (ask Majerus after SLU scored 20 points for the game). The coach only teaches but the players are the ones who have make the effort and learn the system.
We have some big guys who are going to be a force but not for a year or two. This is a good year for getting experience but it is also a growing year for the team.
We can only dream of what we would have had if POB would have stuck around for all 4 years but that didn't happen and we ended up w/o a big guy. You can say that the coaching staff did a poor job of recruiting but XC would have been a junior this year and would have helped out a lot. We could go on about the 2 guys that were here all last year only to go somewhere else (Fears & Brown). I could go on but we have to go w/ what we have been delt and JL does see these guys everyday in practice and has to go w/ the ones that have been doing the things that the coaching staff wants done day in day out. So as to your answer you can blame the coach because that is what everyone wants to do but he does not play he only puts the guys on the floor, so in reality there is only so much he can do although he is the one to always get the blame. (by the way from someone who has coached,and not even close to this level, the coach usally blames himself enough w/o others having to blame him-most coaches can tell you about the close losses a lot more then the close wins because they dwell on what they could have done differently to win the game but the wins they dwell on the victory.
 
Yeldarb you missed my point entirely. In your post you were referring to those who practice the hardest. There is a difference between practicing hard and playing good. I could go to a Bradley basketball practice, practice as hard as possible, give it my everything and puke my guts out. Does that mean I should play? Absolutely not. The skill level is just too far apart. Yes Danny Adams was a walkon, as was Aaron Zobrist but there is a reason that MOST walkons are walkons. My point is just because a guy gives his all in practice doesn't make him the most qualified to play in real games. What makes him the most qualified to play in real games IMO is that he produces in real games.
 
buballer82 said:
Yeldarb you missed my point entirely. In your post you were referring to those who practice the hardest. There is a difference between practicing hard and playing good. I could go to a Bradley basketball practice, practice as hard as possible, give it my everything and puke my guts out. Does that mean I should play? Absolutely not. The skill level is just too far apart. Yes Danny Adams was a walkon, as was Aaron Zobrist but there is a reason that MOST walkons are walkons. My point is just because a guy gives his all in practice doesn't make him the most qualified to play in real games. What makes him the most qualified to play in real games IMO is that he produces in real games.
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It is silly to think that Jim Les actually bases playing time solely on who practices 'the hardest'...No coach in America would do that. Coaches will reward minutes to the players that show them the most of what they want to see in practice...This would include hustle, intensity, and effort...but it also includes skill level, physical ability, and having an understanding of the offensive and defensive sets...
I think some of you are taking this whole 'practicing hard earns playing time' thing way too literally.
 
Thank You ER! I didn't realize I had to specifically describe what "practice hard" meant. OBVIOUSLY that includes skill too. Wow...no common sense!
 
Yeldarb10 said:
Thank You ER! I didn't realize I had to specifically describe what "practice hard" meant. OBVIOUSLY that includes skill too. Wow...no common sense!
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Yelder10 you seem to have a great undeerstanding of the game and of the team. I was wondering if you are part of the team, but then again, you may not want to devulge that information.
 
real fan said:
Why didn"t you answer my question on whom is at fault?
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What more of an answer do you want?

Either

the coach is at fault by not :
coaching to the strenghts of players we have this year,
did not recruit the proper players (and not even the greatest of recruiters in the game, including coach K, can always recruit great)
not ideally developing the players we do have. (Is former national COY Bruce doing a better job of this down 74?)

Or

The fans are at fault for having too high of expectations.
 
Why does fault need to be assigned to anything that has happened this year? Every team faces risks of having to go through unexpected circumstances.

If a tree falls and causes a power outage, which leads to a traffic jam and you are late for work, who's fault is it? Some things just happen, and are not necessarily all the fault of an individual.

Daniel Ruffin's unfortunate injury is the single biggest reason Bradley is struggling and where it is now in the MVC. If we had DR we would be in contention for the MVC now.
 
I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN'T MY FAULT
 
Da Coach said:
Why does fault need to be assigned to anything that has happened this year? Every team faces risks of having to go through unexpected circumstances.

If a tree falls and causes a power outage, which leads to a traffic jam and you are late for work, who's fault is it? Some things just happen, and are not necessarily all the fault of an individual.

Daniel Ruffin's unfortunate injury is the single biggest reason Bradley is struggling and where it is now in the MVC. If we had DR we would be in contention for the MVC now.
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We would be better off but by how much? He would not have cured our lack of inside game which is killing us on all fronts. Would we have a better record, I would think so. DR brings an attacking relentless defense on the ball handler that no one else on this team has and that would have made our D so much better. I think the current back court players have stepped up on the O and have for the most part made up the difference. I'm still with the fans who are expressing frustration with the amount of time MS is playing. In one sequence he did not step over to help out on D, had a TO and then promptly commited a foul. On any other decent team he would be eating the pine or at best coming in to energize the team for 2-3 minutes a 1/2.
 
Somebody has to take responsibility for the way we are losing as we were told that this was the best group of players I have ever had at Bradley before the red-white game; also D.Ruffin is a great player but we lost to UIC with him at full strength ; the 3 major reasons we are losing is
1 no inside game
2 bad defense
3 lack of a good rebounder
Either the players are not performing or the right combinations or not being played ; still believe if M.Salley is our best post player then we are in big trouble and I am not faulting him as he plays hard but should be more of a role player; his stats have shown that.
 
I certainly agree that we were not a great team, with Ruffin. He was just a really big band-aid, and we've been exposed. (We looked horible in exhibition when he sat down, and even then had to play too much)

Without Ruff, we've found a few more answers (in consistancy in SM and AW), than we probably would of, otherwise. We should be better with him, IF the coaches play a well rounded combinations of guard minutes of our 5 good guards. Unfortunately, I think we'll stick to too heavy of minutes of the 3 best and still wonder why we can't finish games :(

Although Ruff was not a 10rpg guy, he did get more rebounds than I believe our other 123 guys (~3 rpg) and got several steals, and generally made fewer turn-overs. All together those little things probably added up to 4-10 more possessions a game.
the game is about possessions whether or not you get them by boards, steals, taking better care of the ball... Rebounding is not the only answer. (Of course I wish it were more of a priority, too)
 
Da Coach said:
Why does fault need to be assigned to anything that has happened this year? Every team faces risks of having to go through unexpected circumstances.

If a tree falls and causes a power outage, which leads to a traffic jam and you are late for work, who's fault is it? Some things just happen, and are not necessarily all the fault of an individual.

Daniel Ruffin's unfortunate injury is the single biggest reason Bradley is struggling and where it is now in the MVC. If we had DR we would be in contention for the MVC now.
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many teams get through injuries though coach...I don't think it HAS to be anyone's fault but it does make one wonder when it's the same type of problems game after game. Rebounding for instance,any type of inside game for another. Many teams we have played and lost to were missing a starter or key player...maybe not as good as DR but nevertheless they still are winning games. The talk early was how much depth we had...it doesn't seem like it now and we only lost one player...I'm not blaming anyone yet...I look at a period of time...if we have this kind of year next year then you could certainly blame JL as he is the coach..that's the way it is.
I alos know it is not in some people's character to say anything negative about the team or coach when other's do. Heck if we all agreed itwould be very boring around here
 
I have always been in favor of insightful criticism, lefty. I just don't ascribe to the need to blame someone for undesirable outcomes.
 
Da Coach said:
I have always been in favor of insightful criticism, lefty. I just don't ascribe to the need to blame someone for undesirable outcomes.
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I understand coach....it is also depends on how people say things..some are not very tactful...I appreciate most of the posters on this board as I do the other board
 
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