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2/27 column Phil Luciano

Frankly I don't care what ISU does with its players, but I bring it up to quiet the baseless rips that Bradley is not strict and the athletes are out of control.
When and if
-- the BU athletes vote on whether to come to practice
-- and when the BU athletes get caught underage with open liquor in the car they were driving and don't even miss a practice
-- and the Bradley athletes are arrested in bar fights and get into gunfights
-- or steal computers or nearly kill teammates then go back to drink at a party
-- or it's revealed that they are playing after accepting $25,000 of gifts and impermissible benefits
....then gimme a call and we can discuss this again...but for now, case closed.
 
tornado said:
Frankly I don't care what ISU does with its players, but I bring it up to quiet the baseless rips that Bradley is not strict and the athletes are out of control.
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People make mistakes, but as I said on a post yesterday, when our athletes make a mistake, they have been held accoutable. That simply does not happen at a lot of universities across the country.
 
For all you "truthers" out here. . .

If you are defending Ruffin's innocence and hearsay as fact (let's be honest here, both sides are doing it), why are you also not up in arms about Ruffin's suspension?

I mean, we attacked the President on that matter, for interfering with the program with Wilson and Cole-Scott.

Where's the outcry about this suspension?
 
It is there, you must have missed it...
and aren't you taking a pretty self-righteous position where you can believe in what you want to believe, but you chastise anyone who wants to believe a viewpoint that is corroborated by not just the defendant, but also by an eyewitness, and even some of the self-evident facts.

I have an idea....believe what you want, let everyone else believe what they want and stop trying to decide for them.

squirrel, last Saturday I predicted it would only be a matter of time before the PJ Star finally found and printed some of the very facts that they are now revealing for the very first time, but the evidence for those facts existed five days ago.....
I think I have already proven I am five days ahead of you and the people who espouse your viewpoint,
so give it another few days and you'll come around, too.
http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7232
 
squirrel said:
For all you "truthers" out here. . .

If you are defending Ruffin's innocence and hearsay as fact (let's be honest here, both sides are doing it), why are you also not up in arms about Ruffin's suspension?

I mean, we attacked the President on that matter, for interfering with the program with Wilson and Cole-Scott.

Where's the outcry about this suspension?
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That's one thing I can't seem to understand. People say he deserves to be presumed innocent until proven guilty (which I agree with), but at the same time applaud the administration for suspending him immediately, while still saying he deserves to be playing until all the facts come out.
 
squirrel said:
For all you "truthers" out here. . .

If you are defending Ruffin's innocence and hearsay as fact (let's be honest here, both sides are doing it), why are you also not up in arms about Ruffin's suspension?

I mean, we attacked the President on that matter, for interfering with the program with Wilson and Cole-Scott.

Where's the outcry about this suspension?
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Quite a few holes in this post. Care to elaborate. One of the faults that I have with the new Prez is that I dont think she is very decisive.
 
tornado said:
It is there, you must have missed it...
and aren't you taking a pretty self-righteous position where you can believe in what you want to believe, but you chastise anyone who wants to believe a viewpoint that is corroborated by not just the defendant, but also by an eyewitness, and even some of the self-evident facts.
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The closest thing I can think of. . .

In 7th grade, I was standing outside waiting for school to start. Two of my buddies came up and we started talking. Then they started talking about punching one another.

Next thing I know, one says, "let's punch squirrely instead". One of them hits me right on the eyebrow.

I go into the office to get an ice pack. 30 minutes later I'm on the way home with an all-day suspension because the other two's story was corroborated.

My suspension was later repealed because the Principal didn't know who to punish, so he punished all 3. And all I did was get hit in the eye.

Fact is only 3 people know the "facts" and you're not one of them.
 
squirrel said:
For all you "truthers" out here. . .

If you are defending Ruffin's innocence and hearsay as fact (let's be honest here, both sides are doing it), why are you also not up in arms about Ruffin's suspension?

I mean, we attacked the President on that matter, for interfering with the program with Wilson and Cole-Scott.

Where's the outcry about this suspension?
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You need to read some of my posts because I have touched upon the lack of responsible leadership from the Administration. There is no way, that with the current information that we are reading, that Ruff should not have played last night and at least a statement should be released that he is reinstated as a player. As I have said this is about doing the right thing regardless of the heat you may have to take in the future. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen! Unless they have some other evidence that we do not have what are they waiting for? The game on Saturday was fine. They did not have the time to come up with all the information needed to make a prudent decision so they made the best possible choice. Now for yesterdays game I'm not sure what they were thinking, what information they had or are they just be overly cautious. I'll take a leader with guts any day over one that tries to come out roses everytime.
 
squirrel said:
For all you "truthers" out here. . .

If you are defending Ruffin's innocence and hearsay as fact (let's be honest here, both sides are doing it), why are you also not up in arms about Ruffin's suspension?

I mean, we attacked the President on that matter, for interfering with the program with Wilson and Cole-Scott.

Where's the outcry about this suspension?
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It is the President's job to guard the public image of the university, among other things. As long as there are people who think Bradley athletes are "thugs" who are "out of control", they will err on the side of making the public happy.
 
SanFranciscoPete said:
I'll take a leader with guts any day over one that tries to come out roses everytime.
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Not ripping you SFPete
I like a leader who will make an informed decision based on facts and legal opinion who will not drag out the process which in the end will reflect poorly on everyone involved.
 
I'll always err on the side of doing the right thing regardless of consequences.
The problem with today's society is that IMAGE is everything mentality because the media points that out everytime.
 
We fans try to derive our conclusions on the incident with as many facts as we could gather. Maybe PL was under time contraints or maybe even indulged in a sip of an adult beverage while putting his thoughts to paper. Maybe he was deriving under the influence.
 
Obviously Phil and Kirk think like one another, too bad they believe no one ever makes a mistake and by golly if they do then we should lock them up and throw away the key; hope one day they get picked up by accident and no one comes to the rescue ; Phil is probably jealous because he could not do anything in sports because of his fine athletic build, Wessler is still crying because Bradley dropped swimming.
 
My opinion of PL was not hightened when he makes revealing coments about himself in his columns about "getting his pants pulled down in gym class" and the "drunken haze that was his college career".

Yeah sounds like this guy was not really into athletics now or ever. Just a big goober that get's his feeling of acceptance by being a clown.
 
Mike Radigan said:
We fans try to derive our conclusions on the incident with as many facts as we could gather. Maybe PL was under time contraints or maybe even indulged in a sip of an adult beverage while putting his thoughts to paper. Maybe he was deriving under the influence.
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I think to set the appropriate example, the PJStar should IMMEDIATELY suspend Phil Luciano or "deriving under the influence!" :)
 
What REALLY bothered me about the article was his complete disregard for Daniel, his family(His blessed Mother was bawling in the concouse before going to the intros), his friends,his teamates. and us, his fans, not to mention his rights.
He sees Daniel, as a baskeball player, but Daniel is more that that!
He is a person.
I was going to e-mail Luciano, but why?
 
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