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MS is gone- who will be our enforcer now?

Maybe...if SS took a course in jumping over the summer. Dunking is about the last thing I want to see SS trying. Ever watched the bigs during pregame?

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Yes.... I must admit I got a good laugh out of BUconner's post :lol: I hope that was a joke :o If not, have you seen SS jump? :lol: ;)
 
Yes.... I must admit I got a good laugh out of BUconner's post :lol: I hope that was a joke :o If not, have you seen SS jump? :lol: ;)

I hoped it was a joke, as well.

Maybe we can set up a dunk contest between Sam and Brandy Heemskerk ... with 8-foot rims.
 
Don't agree with this. Salley's attitude was a problem which resulted in more technical fouls on a player than I can remember on the Hilltop. His off the court attitude also resulted in a number of our players getting into trouble. I agree with those who say Sam M could set the 'toughness' tone...kind of like a point guard from Chicago did for us about 23 years ago.

BradleyBrave. We usually agree on stuff but I have to disagree here. I actually think Bradley will miss Matt Salley more than many fans want to admit. It seems many (myself included at times) focused on what Matt couldn't/didn't do and less on what he did.

Yes, he struggled offensively at times. Yes, he got too many technicals. Yes, he had a poor attitude at times. But he WAS clearly our best interior defender. On a team that plays four perimeter guys all the time that shouldn't be taken lightly. He was also clearly BU's best rebounder. He led the team in that category by a nice margin. He also added a "physical" presence that must be made up.

Salley's deficiencies were made larger because the other big men didn't fulfill expectations. Salley was forced to play more because David Collins was inconsistent at best and didn't play for long stretches. Same for Rashad Austin. Will Egolf has potential but didn't contribute. Sam Singh was ok.

So, if Salley had been a 15 minute a game guy then his contributions would have been great. But because the other recruited big players underachieved we had to overexpose Matt.

Finding someone to provide toughness, good interior defense and rebounding isn't that easy.
 
I really wasnt going to respond to this thread, but will now throw my 2 cents in...fwiw:) Instead of an enforcer, I think that we need to adopt the Michigan State approach with SS, WE, DC, and AT. With the MSU approach I mean that when we get these guys in practice, we set up drills to emphasize aggressive rebounding. I read somewhere that Coach Izzo sets up a drill where some guys are dressed in football gear and the forwards and centers fight after each rebound against the guys in football gear. If we establish this concept, we wont need the enforcer that we are talking about in this thread.imo
 
Ok, I am gonna let everyone know again about UIUC and the 05 run.

Yes - they were great. Yes - they were talented.

But...

That team's success was predicated on the use of ILLEGAL/MOVING SCREENS.

Nobody saw them because everyone got so wrapped up with the beautiful fast snappy ball movement that eventual found a wide open shooter. It was so fast and perfect everyone struggled to keep up with the movement of the ball.

--POW--

--Zombies--

And then everyone misses the action AWAY FROM THE BALL.

Screens were set all the time. One right after another. Continuously. And they moved. (Augie and the red-head white dude from Oklahoma or Texas were great at it) Forcing defenders to drag in response time... and the next began to drag a little longer.... the next longer... til finally a great shooter was left wide open.... AND THE FINAL SCREEN SET DOES NOT MOVE.

So all you see on tv is a defeated defender burnt chasing a guy thru like 3-4-5 moving screens and finally his guy gets the ball just as the final screen is set with no hope of defending the shot.... Thhhhhrrreeeeeeeeeee ---- GOOD!!!!

Cmon MM what's that got to the enforcer mentality:). You are still talking about illegal screens that all the officials didn't seem to call? all the officials were mesmorized by the other action going on the court?
People talked about it all the time and stuff was very rarely called so why keep beating that horse.

Now back to topic...I don't think the Illini had anyone that everyone feared when they went down the lane. My point is BU doesn't need an enforcer they need 5 tough players on the floor at every position all the time
 
I really wasnt going to respond to this thread, but will now throw my 2 cents in...fwiw:) Instead of an enforcer, I think that we need to adopt the Michigan State approach with SS, WE, DC, and AT. With the MSU approach I mean that when we get these guys in practice, we set up drills to emphasize aggressive rebounding. I read somewhere that Coach Izzo sets up a drill where some guys are dressed in football gear and the forwards and centers fight after each rebound against the guys in football gear. If we establish this concept, we wont need the enforcer that we are talking about in this thread.imo

I would take a look at anything Izzo teams do. I'm always impressed with their toughness
 
I would take a look at anything Izzo teams do. I'm always impressed with their toughness

I'm all for having everyone play tough but sometimes it is just not in their make up. If everyone played tough we would not need an enforcer. Maybe using enforcer was over kill on what I really meant. We do though need someone who will not let the opposing team get to the rim for lay ups time and time again. Last year we saw that too many times, as well as not getting the defensive rebound. Who is going to rebound for us? I would hope we do rebound as a team, play 1/2 court defense as a team but last years team did neither exceptionally.
 
I hoped it was a joke, as well.

Maybe we can set up a dunk contest between Sam and Brandy Heemskerk ... with 8-foot rims.

BEST....IDEA....EVER!!!!


Yes.... I must admit I got a good laugh out of BUconner's post :lol: I hope that was a joke :o If not, have you seen SS jump? :lol: ;)

He just needs a haircut. His hair is weighing him down. Cut the hair makes him more aerodynamic. best dunkers of all time all had shaved heads and lack of hair. You never see Dirk goin up for a dunk...until he got that haircut!

also our FRONT OFFICE enforcer...
JOANNE GLASSER!!!!!
she went hard on the new alcohol policy I think she can do the same for people that walk into Carver Arena!!!
 
SanFran Pete ; what you are saying about players not having the makeup to be tough is true but in sports you had better be tough if you plan on being successful as the tough guys will push you around and win most of the time; basketball has turned into a very physical sport and you need to be willing to mix it up or the tough guys will rough you up.
 
best dunkers of all time all had shaved heads and lack of hair.

Guess you never saw the fro on Dr J when he was in the ABA.

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http://www.remembertheaba.com/TributeMaterial/Erving.html
 
SanFran Pete ; what you are saying about players not having the makeup to be tough is true but in sports you had better be tough if you plan on being successful as the tough guys will push you around and win most of the time; basketball has turned into a very physical sport and you need to be willing to mix it up or the tough guys will rough you up.

Yep, your right! When I played ball (football & basketball) years ago, we were told by the coachs that you could establish the out come of the game in the first plays/series of the game. Simply by showing your opponents by your physical play that you were there to win and you weren't going to be pushed around. If anyone was going to be pushed it was them. I think this holds true today. One of the best rebound players of all times comes to mind, Dennis Rodman. He would establish his play and position in the first 2 mins. of the game. He would put those razer elbows in his opponents ribs and let them know that was going to be his game and his rebounds. Often he would end up in a pushing match early in the game and have his opponent out of their game from there on. The Bulls and the Pistons won a lot of games and championships with his play on the boards. I never cared for all his side show crap but I loved to watch him fight for position on the boards.
Yep, your right!
You need to be willing to mix it up or the tough guys will rough you up!
 
SanFran Pete ; what you are saying about players not having the makeup to be tough is true but in sports you had better be tough if you plan on being successful as the tough guys will push you around and win most of the time; basketball has turned into a very physical sport and you need to be willing to mix it up or the tough guys will rough you up.

I'm with you!!!! I want toughness out of our players. One thing you never hear about a MichSt team is that they had no heart. I want teams to know when they step on the court against BU they will have to fight for every rebound, lose ball and that every shot will be contested.
 
I guess we all agree that playing tough and not committing flagrant fouls that you get a technical foul called on you is exactly what we are looking for ; the aggressors will win most of their games.
 
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