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Majerus goes off on A10 (again)

To be honest, I'm rooting hard for the MVC just to come out and say "we're not interested in you" at Majerus and St Louis, just to see the reactions.
 
BradleyBrave said:
Why? It looks like he's getting things turned around at SLU. If Evansville wants out, I am more than happy to welcome in SLU with open arms. It would make our league that much stronger.
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Majerus and the higher ups of SLU have not gotten along since day one. Probably won't happen, but this guy is time bomb IMO he eventually is going to say/do the right thing and they'll cut ties with him.
 
this is bull...many teams in many conferences make 3 day, 2 game road trips....
Wichita and Creighton do it often when they come to Illinois and play BU & ISU and they do it in Indiana...
This guy is a real whiner, he'll feel right at home in Central Illinois.
 
anyone with half a brain realizes two things:

1) SLU does not fit in a-10 geographically in any stretch of the imagination with the nearest school more than 300 miles away in Xavier
2)Slu would be a great addition for the valley
 
tornado said:
this is bull...many teams in many conferences make 3 day, 2 game road trips....
Wichita and Creighton do it often when they come to Illinois and play BU & ISU and they do it in Indiana...
This guy is a real whiner, he'll feel right at home in Central Illinois.
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Aren't you from Central Illinois? That's pretty condescending don't you think?
 
I've said this before- some schools in the MVC have long memories. Recall that it was SLU that dumped the MVC and thought they could do better. I have heard that it might be difficult to get a majority vote to let them back into the MVC even if they did apply.
And then they have to resolve the other issue- currently the MVC tournament in played in St. Louis, though no longer on SLU's home floor. However, SLU would, no doubt, have a big "home court" advantage nonetheless with huge numbers of fans locally. The whole reason the tournament was put in St. Louis initially was to have a neutral site city, which would no longer be the case. This issue alone may be enough reason for a couple of the other MVC schools to vote against SLU joining the MVC.
 
I personally don't think the conference tournament can be the overriding reason to deny or approve a school. While it is the most important sporting event of the conference, I don't think it's big enough to be the swing factor in adding or denying a school.

That said, does St Louis stack up in other Valley sports?
 
tornado said:
yes I do live here, but can't help but note a lot of people who express a lot of dissatisfaction pretty often - Coach Mo spoke often of the same observation... ;)
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There are a lot of whiners everywhere, central Illinois is not the different then most places when it comes to that. Yes, there are teams that go out and do the 2-3 day road trip but doing it on a continuous basis with no breaks within the season except when you are home would be a drag on the players. If others do it more that does not make it right. I'm really not sure how Gonzaga does it because Spokane is far from everywhere.
 
Da Coach said:
I've said this before- some schools in the MVC have long memories. Recall that it was SLU that dumped the MVC and thought they could do better. I have heard that it might be difficult to get a majority vote to let them back into the MVC even if they did apply.
And then they have to resolve the other issue- currently the MVC tournament in played in St. Louis, though no longer on SLU's home floor. However, SLU would, no doubt, have a big "home court" advantage nonetheless with huge numbers of fans locally. The whole reason the tournament was put in St. Louis initially was to have a neutral site city, which would no longer be the case. This issue alone may be enough reason for a couple of the other MVC schools to vote against SLU joining the MVC.
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I would be surprised to see more SLU fans at the tourney than WSU, CU, SIU, and possibly BU and isu. SLU does not have a huge following in the St. Louis area, mostly because they have three professional sports teams people choose over SLU basketball. I also think most schools would realize that SLU brings a lot more to the valley than what evansville does, and the addition of SLU could move the valley one step closer to MWC/A10 levels of basketball.
 
TheAsianSensation said:
I personally don't think the conference tournament can be the overriding reason to deny or approve a school. While it is the most important sporting event of the conference, I don't think it's big enough to be the swing factor in adding or denying a school.

That said, does St Louis stack up in other Valley sports?
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They're soccer team is huge I do know that. They would compete every year for conference titles, and they did host the College Cup several years back.
 
DeltaBrave03 said:
I would be surprised to see more SLU fans at the tourney than WSU, CU, SIU, and possibly BU and isu. SLU does not have a huge following in the St. Louis area, mostly because they have three professional sports teams people choose over SLU basketball. I also think most schools would realize that SLU brings a lot more to the valley than what evansville does, and the addition of SLU could move the valley one step closer to MWC/A10 levels of basketball.
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Are you sure? SLU is averaging 7,410 fans per game at their home arena. In their last season in the Scottrade Center, they averaged 9,667 per game, and have had crowds over 15,000 there.

The record for total sales of All-Session tickets was in 2007 when the 10 MVC teams combined to sell 6,708 tickets. The previous mark was only 4,067, which is closer to the average sold each year.

Wichita State's total sales of 2,450 in 2007 is still the all-time record for one school.
Last year, the top teams sold only around 1,000 or slightly more tickets to the tournament.

There is absolutely no doubt that St. Louis would outsell any other MVC school by a wide margin, and with the tournament being local for their fans, I think they would probably sell more tickets than all other 10 MVC schools combined.
 
Da Coach said:
Are you sure? SLU is averaging 7,410 fans per game at their home arena. In their last season in the Scottrade Center, they averaged 9,667 per game, and have had crowds over 15,000 there.

The record for total sales of All-Session tickets was in 2007 when the 10 MVC teams combined to sell 6,708 tickets. The previous mark was only 4,067, which is closer to the average sold each year.

Wichita State's total sales of 2,450 in 2007 is still the all-time record for one school.
Last year, the top teams sold only around 1,000 or slightly more tickets to the tournament.

There is absolutely no doubt that St. Louis would outsell any other MVC school by a wide margin, and with the tournament being local for their fans, I think they would probably sell more tickets than all other 10 MVC schools combined.
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Spot on. SLU at the Kiel/savvis/scottrade center was in the top 25 in attendance yearly until about the last 4-5 years in that building.

It would bring up the old idea of moving the tournament to KC, which would suck for Peoria fans.

As a fan of both BU and SLU, I wish they would renew the rivalry. There is no reason they shouldn't be playing a game yearly.
 
SFP said:
There are a lot of whiners everywhere, central Illinois is not the different then most places...
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if you see it that way, then I honor your perspective...

but I offer as examples, the fine fans of long-suffering Drake, Evansville, Indiana State, and even Big Ten's Northwestern and Iowa...who simply DO NOT bitc*h anywhere near as much during their down years as we see in Peoria...
and, hey...with many of those schools, they've had it way, way worse than we have had for decades and for way, way longer dry spells..

BUT one more excellent example..check Western Kentucky..
--their program is a lot like ours - long, fine tradition, good success, recent outstanding post-season success - four 20-win seasons in a row...a recent NBA draft pick...and yet a ton of fine, experienced players were returning...(Slaughter, Pettigrew..)
--they recently went with a new coach - he wasn't everyone's pick and he rode the success of the players he inherited to a 25 win season last year...
--then just as expectations were really, really high this year, they've lost several home games, can't seem to beat anyone with an RPI better than 200, have an RPI themselves of almost 200!!
have slipped to being a .500 ball club, mired deep in a relatively weak conference, have barely beaten anyone on the road, and are really tailing off - having lost 7 of their last nine, with the only wins being over Troy and New Orleans, terrible teams that aren't even likely to both have D-I programs in the near future..and they've even lost to teams whose RPI is well over 200.

Trust me - if this was here in Central IL, we'd be hearing a whole lot of discontent and grumbling, and we'd have certainly had a few columns in the local paper ripping into the players and coach and there'd be calls for making big-time changes.....and that's probably an understatement---

Instead-- and in REALLY STARK contrast to what we see and have come to expect here...
They have a really fine, active message board and there is not even one single negative thread or a thread calling out the coach or players...
it's 100% supportive of their guys...and it has been all season as I have visited it frequently throughout the year...

they do rip on refs, some of the crummy fans, and a few of the other teams in the conference, but it is so, so different that you'd think you were reading the message board of a team that's 24-3 instead of a team that's at .500 like we are...

also, go to the Bowling Green Daily News, their main local paper, and I challenge you to find any column or report that is either critical or negative..
no, they have what I'd love to see us have...a fine, objective, fair, and civil press and tremendous, non-complaining fans...
 
They also were in the CUSA then, and it wasn't nearly as big a deal for fans of Memphis, Cinci, UAB, Louisville, and DePaul to make the road trip. . .

Basically their nearest rival now is the same distance as Cinci (offhand I don't know the difference in distance between Dayton vs Cinci, but either one fits my point), which was outside of ECU and Charlotte, the eastern reach of CUSA. . .

That impacts attendance.
 
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