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Kansas AD says the top schools (BCS) will break away from NCAA

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http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-04-13/perkins_tackles_big_topics_at_dole

"Perkins predicted the conferences that now make up the BCS would split off from the NCAA.
"At some time, the six major conferences are going to have their own quasi-NCAA," he said. "They're going to do their own thing."
He didn't think this was imminent, but was confident in it.
"It's gonna happen," he said. "I hear a lot of college presidents talking about those kinds of things."
 
Wow...color me shocked.

Not shocked that this change may happen, but shocked by the fact that is being discussed by someone as high-level as the KU AD! It's like the process of Big 10 expansion...it quickly went from speculation, to anonymous reports, to Barry Alvarez (Wisky AD) confirming, to suddenly being talked about openly by the commissioner.
 
what the guy is saying is that some day the BCS and the NCAA will probably be as separate as NCAA and NAIA...
they'll not likely ever want to play a Bradley or share revenue with anyone else...
 
I have been saying this for several years on here. The BCS's and the non BCS's period. The Valley better recognize this and position itself accordingly.

This is football driven and only a handful and I mean a handful of non BCS's who are revelent in Basketball will be part of the party... Gonzaga, maybe Butler. The rest will have to find a way to make it work.

TV deals for the non BCS's and TV deals for their football and their what will likely be their own basketball tourney.

The BCS's dont need the NCAA for football or for a basketball tourney.

When expansion starts this will become much more in play. First domino is not to far off.
 
Here's what we are gonna see first:

ESPN is gonna get the coverage for the NCAA Basketball Tourney. They will expand the field to 96.

Within a year or two of that, CBS is gonna have their own Invitational for a field of 16 teams. Their tournament will run in April AFTER ESPN's 96 tourney is over.
 
MacabreMob said:
Here's what we are gonna see first:

ESPN is gonna get the coverage for the NCAA Basketball Tourney. They will expand the field to 96.

Within a year or two of that, CBS is gonna have their own Invitational for a field of 16 teams. Their tournament will run in April AFTER ESPN's 96 tourney is over.
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Whats going to happen when the BCS's say you know what we are now going to have a 32 team field made up of only BCS's conference schools?

The 96 is an NCAA thing, the BCS's want all the revenue not part of it. And a BCS only field would be wildly successful. They may or may not invite a select few non BCS's to the fun and games but why should they?

The 96 to me is only a short term thing. Once realignment is complete and the BCS's expand and dominate the number of "name schools" they will do their own thing.

MVC is not going to be part of anything BCS. I will be very interested to see what happens to the football playing schools in the MVC.

Again I really hope the MVC is being proactive and long term planning for the conference realignment and expansions.

Just like football it is going to be a world of the haves and the have nots... all driven by MONEY.
 
houstontxbrave said:
Whats going to happen when the BCS's say you know what we are now going to have a 32 team field made up of only BCS's conference schools?

The 96 is an NCAA thing, the BCS's want all the revenue not part of it. And a BCS only field would be wildly successful. They may or may not invite a select few non BCS's to the fun and games but why should they?

The 96 to me is only a short term thing. Once realignment is complete and the BCS's expand and dominate the number of "name schools" they will do their own thing.

MVC is not going to be part of anything BCS. I will be very interested to see what happens to the football playing schools in the MVC.

Again I really hope the MVC is being proactive and long term planning for the conference realignment and expansions.

Just like football it is going to be a world of the haves and the have nots... all driven by MONEY.
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I'm with ya HoustonTx. I was suggesting the CBS 16 Tourney would be BCS only teams. You know - like Bilas said, there's REALLY only about 16 teams that can win the whole thing in a field of 65. So why bother with the Murray St's and UNI's. If there were to be one this year, Kansas woulda been invited to the 16 team Invitational and not UNI.

And the money will drive it.

And I say let them have it. Let it ruin itself and pretty soon people will become less interested like all the empty seats at some NBA games.
 
The sad thing is that realignment (hello, Big 10), is going to make everything move faster. Everyone's going to react once they announce who they're adding.

The NCAA is splitting at the seams in all their sports. Football has the obvious situation. Basketball could be in trouble with the tourney going to 96. Baseball is already in trouble with the northern schools vs. southern schools split/debate about equity. And don't forget lacrosse - that sport is growing rapidly, and is largely east-coast based. The west coast schools are starting to pick up on it, and now the midwestern schools are going to be in real, real big trouble because they don't have lacrosse.

You will see a split across the top 6 conferences in football, adding a few schools for basketball only, adding a few schools for lacrosse only, and that'd be it. Baseball and softball would collapse upon itself, lacrosse becomes the new rage, basketball becomes an exclusive power-conference entity, and football becomes the new NFL.
 
96 team field will dilute the product making way for a new 32 team tourney. Pretty simple but I'd say a pretty good plan by the big boys. Everyone is saying why mess with the current format and now we know why. There are some people that are probably mad at the KU AD for spilling the beans just yet.
 
TheAsianSensation said:
... You will see a split across the top 6 conferences in football, adding a few schools for basketball only, adding a few schools for lacrosse only, and that'd be it. Baseball and softball would collapse upon itself, lacrosse becomes the new rage, basketball becomes an exclusive power-conference entity, and football becomes the new NFL.
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Quite a doomsday outlook - but I believe you are right.

And I will no longer follow college hoops.

I already can't stand any of the pro sports. Losing college hoops would be sad, but I'll get over it.

Let 'em have it and ruin it and in a few years they will be wondering why nobody follows it as much.
 
MacabreMob said:
I'm with ya HoustonTx. I was suggesting the CBS 16 Tourney would be BCS only teams. You know - like Bilas said, there's REALLY only about 16 teams that can win the whole thing in a field of 65. So why bother with the Murray St's and UNI's. If there were to be one this year, Kansas woulda been invited to the 16 team Invitational and not UNI.

And the money will drive it.

And I say let them have it. Let it ruin itself and pretty soon people will become less interested like all the empty seats at some NBA games.
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To me thats the thing is the attendance at the events. They will have to tinker with it but I suspect the games if they go all BCS will be at sites(schools) that will support in numbers the games. But the attendance is likely not a big deal... its are the eyeballs tuning in all over the country?

16 teams is to few, because that means to few of games... 32 sound about right for a BCS only. Right now there are I think 76 BCS schools. Lets say the BCS's expand to a total of 92 schools then 32 school out of those 92 would be a good number.

This could be also very interesting to see how the NCAA reacts... ie who they sue.
 
And I didn't even mention the lesser sports.

Remember, if you break away from the NCAA, that's 18-22 sports you're walking away from. Is there going to be any support for track & field, volleyball, swimming, wrestling, everything else? Yes there will. All the big boys will support those programs, set up championships, etc.

But the schools left behind....just think of the impact. All the better recruits would rather play on the top level of college. These sports generate even less revenue after the split. Let's just use Bradley soccer as an example. They'd no longer be able to compete in the top division of college. Less exposure, less revenue, less excitement. All these "secondary" sports at all these colleges left behind will collapse. Some will fold. And thanks to Title IX, programs that are actually succeeding may ALSO have to fold to comply with Title IX.

You may see a process, over a 30-40 year stretch, where ALL collegiate athletics for every university and college left behind in the split will have to give up their athletic department. Of course, some will survive or even thrive, but many of them not known for their athletic prowess would rather fold.

And for the record, I think BU would be one of the ones who could thrive in such an atmosphere. But a lot wouldn't.
 
MacabreMob said:
Quite a doomsday outlook - but I believe you are right.

And I will no longer follow college hoops.

I already can't stand any of the pro sports. Losing college hoops would be sad, but I'll get over it.

Let 'em have it and ruin it and in a few years they will be wondering why nobody follows it as much.
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The problem is you are in the minority. Anything BCS only will be a huge success. The number of alumni for those BCS's trumps anything that most non BCS's can offer.

ESPN will ensure anything BCS only football or basketball is wildly successful. I cant see how it would not be successful.
 
TheAsianSensation said:
And I didn't even mention the lesser sports.

Remember, if you break away from the NCAA, that's 18-22 sports you're walking away from. Is there going to be any support for track & field, volleyball, swimming, wrestling, everything else? Yes there will. All the big boys will support those programs, set up championships, etc.

But the schools left behind....just think of the impact. All the better recruits would rather play on the top level of college. These sports generate even less revenue after the split. Let's just use Bradley soccer as an example. They'd no longer be able to compete in the top division of college. Less exposure, less revenue, less excitement. All these "secondary" sports at all these colleges left behind will collapse. Some will fold. And thanks to Title IX, programs that are actually succeeding may ALSO have to fold to comply with Title IX.

You may see a process, over a 30-40 year stretch, where ALL collegiate athletics for every university and college left behind in the split will have to give up their athletic department. Of course, some will survive or even thrive, but many of them not known for their athletic prowess would rather fold.

And for the record, I think BU would be one of the ones who could thrive in such an atmosphere. But a lot wouldn't.
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If the BCS's split off would the have to adhere to any gender quality in sports? Even if the did, by not sharing money there shouldnt be any issue with proping up the other sports.

I agree alot of schools are going to lose programs and some will lose all. But the ones who are prepared and forward thinking should be able to survive in atleast basketball and football. But that survival all hinges on Television.
 
and Butler getting to the Final Four only intensifies these guys' desire to do what it takes to get them out of the equation so they can't take the $$ that rightfully belongs to the BCS boys
 
houstontxbrave said:
If the BCS's split off would the have to adhere to any gender quality in sports? Even if the did, by not sharing money there shouldnt be any issue with proping up the other sports.

I agree alot of schools are going to lose programs and some will lose all. But the ones who are prepared and forward thinking should be able to survive in atleast basketball and football. But that survival all hinges on Television.
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They wouldn't have to. They could do whatever they want with their athletic department.

It's the people staying behind with the NCAA that would have to adhere to everything.

And the real problem is that the other sports will go away. Of course, basketball and football could last. Everything else goes, though, and that's a major problem.
 
tornado said:
and Butler getting to the Final Four only intensifies these guys' desire to do what it takes to get them out of the equation so they can't take the $$ that rightfully belongs to the BCS boys
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I really dont think basketball has a whole lot to do with any of this. It to me is completely football driven.

Butler really should do anything it can though to expand on their lightening in a bottle and get out of the Horizon immediately or they I think are going to be part of those left behind.

It just all comes down to the conference alignments... Big Ten is on the clock.
 
The funny thing is that step 1 of this whole thing will probably be Congress trying to get rid of the BCS. Followed by the BCS saying, "Ok, we'll give up the BCS and switch postseason systems and just go back to the Bowl Alliance System". :lol:
 
The endgame here is 4-16 team "superconferences".

If the Big Ten goes to 16, that's all it will take. The next step will be the P10, ACC, and SEC scrambling for the leftovers. The Big East will be done.

64 teams will be creating essentially a year-round professional league where the same teams compete in various sports. It will provide a boom for college baseball especially and make the scouting process for professional baseball clubs more effective.

I also don't think the B10 should be bashful in their expansion efforts either, and it's not out of the realm for them to think coast-to-coast (Syracuse, Florida, USC, UCLA, Texas) if they are confident they know that is what the end game is.

Really, the elite level will inevitably adopt the culture of professional sports and lose a lot of the casual interest. But make no mistake the market will grow, the money will be greater, and the weeding process is much more transparent.

But I actually disagree that it will be apocalyptic for college athletics among the lower levels. I do think you will see a number of schools fold programs/stop funding them and become non-scholarship, but I do think you will see a new culture and environment among schools like Bradley that can compete in sports across the board and compete for national championships in multiple sports.
 
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