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More players named by FBI as having received payoffs including Wichita State and Creighton players

NCAA will weigh the evidence (which means they will consider the cost of the lawsuits and the profit they make) and will allow Pitino to do anything he wants
 
Breaking news - Arizona assistant Mark Phelps placed on leave as he is being implicated in new violations that are unrelated to the latest NCAA investigation into violations at Arizona..
Phelps was the former head coach at Drake - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyxKJwqXcAEGmEP.jpg:large

now Arizona head coach Sean Miller subpoenaed to testify in FBI probe -
at what point are they gonna cut their losses and distance themselves as far from these guys that are caught up in the FBI sting?
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1100094511500414976
 
More FBI wiretap evidence being revealed - https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-w...175046487.html

no details about what the "offer" was that LSU head coach was throwing out to land Javonte Smart - a Top 50 recruit

Will Wade has been mentioned by many college basketball experts as a top candidate for National Coach of the Year. He took over a losing program at LSU two years ago. They had gone 10-21 in the final season under former coach Johnny Jones. They went 18-15 in Wade's first season, and 25-5 this season.
 
Will Wade has been mentioned by many college basketball experts as a top candidate for National Coach of the Year. He took over a losing program at LSU two years ago. They had gone 10-21 in the final season under former coach Johnny Jones. They went 18-15 in Wade's first season, and 25-5 this season.

Rumors there may be more coming down at LSU and perhaps players there or recruits signed there will look to head somewhere else...
 
Looks like Greg McDermott of Creighton has targeted one of his assistant coaches, Preston Murphy to take the fall for their involvement in the college basketball cheating and pay for play scandal-
https://hoopdirt.com/creightons-murp...trative-leave/

I don't buy for a second that Murphy was acting solo. The rest of the staff, including McDermott surely knew what was going on.
The other assistants under McDermott include Alan Huss, who formerly coached at a couple prep schools: La Lumiere and Culver Prep and who was hired a couple years ago to help channel talented prep players to Creighton. Other Creighton assistants are Paul Lusk, who was head coach at Missouri State until a year ago, and Steve Merfeld, who was head coach at Evansville and assistant coach for a couple years at Bradley under Jim Les. I suspect they all were involved.
 
Here is another cheating scandal that only peripherally involves athletics. Wealthy people, including some celebrities bribing University officials, including athletic coaches to get their kids into exclusive schools. They are even alleged to have paid surrogates to take SAT tests for their kids, and bribed coaches to award athletic scholarships to their kids for rowing teams, badminton teams, etc., even though their kids never played those sports!
https://tvline.com/2019/03/12/felici...-league-bribe/
 
This is all very disappointing, but let's be honest, this has got to be nearly impossible to control. Beyond that, these Universities are already making so much money off of the major sports that I honestly think the kids should be able to be paid. This is a free market, after all (unless you're the NCAA), so I guess for me, I'd like to see our law enforcement agencies working to bust sex traffickers and drug dealers instead of worrying about college kids trying to earn some money for services rendered.

And as far as letting parents pay to get their non-athletic kids placed on college teams goes, I say go for it. If a university wants to water down their team with untalented kids to get some cash, more power to them. Just make it all legal and get it out in the open. In the long run, teams that do this will pay a price one way or another, so let the chips fall where they may.

And seriously, how silly would you look as the kid who paid for a spot on the team if people find out? Very silly is the answer to that question.
 
but doesn't this kind of stuff go on all the time at lower levels...
At our kids' school - it seems the children of the school board members ALWAYS make the team while others who appear more qualified get cut...
We actually had a thread recently about that - LINK

Money talks but so does influence...
 
This is all very disappointing, but let's be honest, this has got to be nearly impossible to control. Beyond that, these Universities are already making so much money off of the major sports that I honestly think the kids should be able to be paid. This is a free market, after all (unless you're the NCAA), so I guess for me, I'd like to see our law enforcement agencies working to bust sex traffickers and drug dealers instead of worrying about college kids trying to earn some money for services rendered.

And as far as letting parents pay to get their non-athletic kids placed on college teams goes, I say go for it. If a university wants to water down their team with untalented kids to get some cash, more power to them. Just make it all legal and get it out in the open. In the long run, teams that do this will pay a price one way or another, so let the chips fall where they may.

And seriously, how silly would you look as the kid who paid for a spot on the team if people find out? Very silly is the answer to that question.

from my understanding it wasn’t the Universities thatvwere getting bribed to let these rich kids in, it was just a couple administrators or coaches etc. the schools weren’t getting any money. Heck, it seems the way for a rich kid to get in is to have their parents make a large donation to the school, but apparently the schools don’t care about that as much anymore when it comes to making exceptions in their admissions departments. So these parents resorted to bribing coaches and other admin staff.


In regards to the Creighton stuff, I always find it amazing that head coaches seem to be able to brush off this stuff and blame it on an assistant. It’s nuts that will fly with people today. I can’t imagine a scenario where the head coach is unaware of one of their assistant coaches doing this stuff. They absolutely are.
 
yes- the corruption was two-fold -
some college coaches were taking payments to place unqualified kids on the teams
..and some highers-up insiders were jacking the system to fake test results and get otherwise unqualified kids into schools and/or on scholarship
the money was coming NOT from the shoe companies this time but from ultra-wealthy parents who wanted their kids in prestigious schools and on the sports teams.
 
I got a question....

if Fred Van Vleet (2012-2016) and Landry Shamet (2015-2018 ) were both paid either before they got to Wichita or while the were playing there -
then that would mean they were ineligible as professionals and it would quite possibly void every win Wichita has accumulated in that span (2012-2018 )

That would be 177 wins vacated & wiped off the record books for playing athletes that were ineligible due to professionalism...

If Wichita was still in the MVC you know NCAA would do this in a heartbeat...but it will be interesting to see if they come down hard now that Wichita is in among the big boys....

You are a bitter man. If your interested and I doubt you are, these are the facts.

Fred Van Vleet took a small amount of money from an agent approximately 1 month before he played his last game for WSU. Shocker fans are not happy that he did that but it really has nothing to do with the program. In fact it is just another indication of what a clean program WSU has. If he were or ever had been paid by WSU he certainly wouldn't be taking what amounted to peanuts from an agent at that point in his career.

Shocker fans have no worry about NCAA sanctions as nothing has surfaced to indicate any violation by WSU. We won big and played fair.
 
Also, it wouldn't surprise me if Shamet took some money from an agent a short time before he left WSU. These are players that were going to the NBA and about to make millions. There is not much a school can do to prevent this besides tell them they shouldn't. This is not buying players.
 
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