tornado
New member
Looks like finally we can close this 2016 recruiting thread and move on to 2017!
There's really nobody left anyway!
Last edited:
-
Welcome to BradleyFans.com! Visitors are welcome, but we encourage you to sign up and register as a member. It's free and takes only a few seconds. Just click on the link to Register at the top right of the page, and follow instructions. If you have any problems or questions, click on the link at the bottom right of the page to Contact Us.
2016 top target
- Thread starter tornado
- Start date
Looks like finally we can close this 2016 recruiting thread and move on to 2017!
There's really nobody left anyway!
tornado
New member
there are reports that Ben Coupet has verballed to UNLV..
Maybe they can find a way to get him eligible but we heard the same about Marcus Lovett to St. John's and Luwane Pipkins to UMass last year and ultimately neither one was eligible.
Las Vegas article still prominently lists the Bradley offer
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/unlv-rebels/basketball/unlv-picks-chicago-s-ben-coupet
Maybe they can find a way to get him eligible but we heard the same about Marcus Lovett to St. John's and Luwane Pipkins to UMass last year and ultimately neither one was eligible.
Las Vegas article still prominently lists the Bradley offer
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/unlv-rebels/basketball/unlv-picks-chicago-s-ben-coupet
tornado
New member
Here's a "kid" who is "unsigned"....
He is the top player for Mira Costa Community College - a California juco...
and the 9th leading scorer in the state
http://mccspartans.com/sports/mbkb/2015-16/bios/boyd_buddha_tdxa
he's averaging 19 ppg (22 ppg in conference play) and hits 40% from the arc...
he's a 6-4 guard that also grabs 7.6 rpg, and hands out 2.3 apg
Here's the interesting thing - after a career in the military - this "kid" is already 34 years old...
His name is Buddha Boyd
http://cccaastats.org/sports/mbkb/2014-15/players/buddhaboydrx3a
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4744019/highlights/240345487
He is the top player for Mira Costa Community College - a California juco...
and the 9th leading scorer in the state
http://mccspartans.com/sports/mbkb/2015-16/bios/boyd_buddha_tdxa
he's averaging 19 ppg (22 ppg in conference play) and hits 40% from the arc...
he's a 6-4 guard that also grabs 7.6 rpg, and hands out 2.3 apg
Here's the interesting thing - after a career in the military - this "kid" is already 34 years old...
His name is Buddha Boyd
http://cccaastats.org/sports/mbkb/2014-15/players/buddhaboydrx3a
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4744019/highlights/240345487
tornado
New member
Montrell Dixson, cousin of UIC's Dikembe Dixson - who was surprisingly good this year at UIC- averaging nearly a double double in league play - and winning the Horizon Freshman of the Year..
..MONTRELL was offered early on by Bradley but his academics failed to qualify him...
Montrell Dixson will attend junior college at Coffeyville Community College in Coffeyville, KS
He's pretty talented and could maybe land later at UIC with his cousin, who he had played alongside in several different high schools from Freeport, to the Kentucky team coached by AJ Youngman's dad, to West Virginia..
(UIC has ex-Bradley assistant Ronald "Chin" Coleman, but they haven't landed any Chicago Public School kids...in fact- most of the kids they've even offered are from well away from Chicago - they still aren't having much success in-town.
The only Chicago kid they have is little utilized redshirt freshman Dominique Matthews, whose commitment to UIC had nothing to do with Coleman, as Matthews verballed there a full month before Coleman was hired.)
But you'd also have to think that if Dikembe Dixson improves upon his freshman season at UIC, then he will undoubtedly be getting a few careful phone calls telling him that he could play at a higher level - and just like Drake's big man, Dominik Olejniczak, Dikembe will have the chance to be "recruited" again. If that happens it will be a real bummer to UIC as they are rebuilding. But look for schools like DePaul or other schools desperate for a little more talent to keep up in their conferences like Tennessee, K-State, Iowa State to come calling...
BTW - anyone notice how many DI transfers lately have headed to Nevada...especially a couple of top MVC kids - they are becoming the Iowa State of the Mountain West. They even poached one transfer from Iowa State!
tornado
New member
A couple of solid late commits...
Justin Thomas commits to NIU
Jovan Mooring commits to UNLV
tornado
New member
you knew this was coming....
Former Bradley recruit Derrick Walker never got the offers he was hoping for so....
so he's just gonna stay in high school an extra year and re-classify as Class of 2017 like his Sunrise teammate Bryan Trimble
https://twitter.com/PrepForce1/status/735205337712594944
tornado
New member
Derrick Walker was once a Bradley recruit and had been offered last summer..but chose an extra year of prep school at Sunrise
I doubt our offer was still solid but who knows...
anyway, Walker announces he has narrowed to six schools and Bradley is not one of them..
UIC, Ball State. Akron, ORU, SMU, Wichita State
tornado
New member
Among all the dozens of names that have been mentioned as 2016 recruiting targets....we not only landed seven of them (Griffith, Brown, Bar, Merritt, McGlaston, Kennell, Hodgson) but most of the others have committed elsewhere...
HOWEVER...there's a few who had still been unaccounted for....including one who visited Bradley and was present at a game last season.
Here's a couple I cannot find where they've landed...
Daniel Soetan - visited on November 13, 2015 - LINK
He was originally Class of 2015, and was already doing a year of post-grad prep school at Quakerdale - but there is no report whether he's landed at a juco or 4-year school yet.
Johnnie Vassar - well traveled and once very highly touted, was hailed as one of the top point guard prospects in the nation, got BCS-caliber offers and was at, then left Northwestern where he was on basketball scholarship - but no word where he might currently be.
Even the Northwestern insiders are don't know - LINK
Lastly - one other recruit that was rated quite highly was Canadian native & friend of Tramique & Florida prep school classmate of Koch Bar -
Richardson Maitre- and up until this morning he was still hanging out there doing AAU and exposure events even though he was Class of 2016 and reneged on his former DI verbals...
He reportedly has an offer from Bradley but that may not still be in effect....
BUT - now he's just signed to play at Indian Hills Community College - one of the juco powerhouses in Ottumwa, IA.
HOWEVER...there's a few who had still been unaccounted for....including one who visited Bradley and was present at a game last season.
Here's a couple I cannot find where they've landed...
Daniel Soetan - visited on November 13, 2015 - LINK
He was originally Class of 2015, and was already doing a year of post-grad prep school at Quakerdale - but there is no report whether he's landed at a juco or 4-year school yet.
Johnnie Vassar - well traveled and once very highly touted, was hailed as one of the top point guard prospects in the nation, got BCS-caliber offers and was at, then left Northwestern where he was on basketball scholarship - but no word where he might currently be.
Even the Northwestern insiders are don't know - LINK
Lastly - one other recruit that was rated quite highly was Canadian native & friend of Tramique & Florida prep school classmate of Koch Bar -
Richardson Maitre- and up until this morning he was still hanging out there doing AAU and exposure events even though he was Class of 2016 and reneged on his former DI verbals...
He reportedly has an offer from Bradley but that may not still be in effect....
BUT - now he's just signed to play at Indian Hills Community College - one of the juco powerhouses in Ottumwa, IA.
tornado
New member
There is a report that Daniel Soetan is still considering and has trimmed his list to just Chicago State & UMKC
The problem with that is that Chicago State appears to have 13 players either already under scholarship or LOI, and UMKC appears to have already 14 - thus someone would have to leave for a scholarship to open - and although it happens all the time & two would have to leave at UMKC, it is getting late.
Both schools' fall semester classes begin on Aug. 22 (11 days) so better decide quick!
This may have been posted somewhere already, but here is another name from the past....2016 juco big man recruit 6-9 Marlon Jones of South Plains College. Jones actually visited a Bradley Red-White scrimmage game way back in October, 2012 along with a bunch of other Mac Irvin players from Chicago in what Dave Reynolds termed "A Defining Moment" for the Bradley basketball program.
http://blogs.pjstar.com/pressrow/2012/10/13/a-defining-moment-for-bradley-program/
Dave called the visits by that "entourage" of "elite" Chicago recruits "unprecedented", and that "The end result can only be a positive one for the Bradley men's basketball program" and he said "Remember this day, Bradley fans. It may take some time. But it may well be a moment that ushers in a return to glory for the Braves."
Well, it was not a "positive" end result, and it did not lead to glory, but to total and unprecedented devastation of the Bradley basketball program, something Bradley fans would much rather not "remember". Bradley only landed one of those Mac Irvin players (Josh Cunningham), but it was not nearly enough to overcome the other recruiting failures and poor coaching that lead to 86 losses in 4 years, a whopping 19 more losses than in any 4 year stretch under any previous coach.
But Marlon Jones, who was a junior at Chicago Orr, and was a 2014 recruit, apparently never considered Bradley. He reportedly had offers from some big-time programs, but ended up committing to Loyola.
http://www.loyolaramblers.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/082614aaa.html
But he was well short of qualifying for Division I in 2014, and ended up going to South Plains CC. As a freshman he averaged 7.6 ppg and 4.6 rpg, and as a sophomore he averaged 10.8 ppg and 5.5 rpg. But despite those decent juco numbers, he had few offers. He ended up committing this summer to New Mexico State.
http://blogs.pjstar.com/pressrow/2012/10/13/a-defining-moment-for-bradley-program/
Dave called the visits by that "entourage" of "elite" Chicago recruits "unprecedented", and that "The end result can only be a positive one for the Bradley men's basketball program" and he said "Remember this day, Bradley fans. It may take some time. But it may well be a moment that ushers in a return to glory for the Braves."
Well, it was not a "positive" end result, and it did not lead to glory, but to total and unprecedented devastation of the Bradley basketball program, something Bradley fans would much rather not "remember". Bradley only landed one of those Mac Irvin players (Josh Cunningham), but it was not nearly enough to overcome the other recruiting failures and poor coaching that lead to 86 losses in 4 years, a whopping 19 more losses than in any 4 year stretch under any previous coach.
But Marlon Jones, who was a junior at Chicago Orr, and was a 2014 recruit, apparently never considered Bradley. He reportedly had offers from some big-time programs, but ended up committing to Loyola.
http://www.loyolaramblers.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/082614aaa.html
But he was well short of qualifying for Division I in 2014, and ended up going to South Plains CC. As a freshman he averaged 7.6 ppg and 4.6 rpg, and as a sophomore he averaged 10.8 ppg and 5.5 rpg. But despite those decent juco numbers, he had few offers. He ended up committing this summer to New Mexico State.
tornado
New member
ISU and others also targeted Jones as he was a big kid and pretty well developed with potential early on..
but two big factors intervened - he did not continue to develop as hoped, and his academics fell short of getting DI out of high school.
The fact that he's choosing New Mexico State hints that academics are still a real issue....as they seem to take a lot of kids who cannot get in anywhere else - one of whom our former staff was recruiting then dropped off due to academics.
but two big factors intervened - he did not continue to develop as hoped, and his academics fell short of getting DI out of high school.
The fact that he's choosing New Mexico State hints that academics are still a real issue....as they seem to take a lot of kids who cannot get in anywhere else - one of whom our former staff was recruiting then dropped off due to academics.
2016 recruit Alonzo Chatman, who was one time rumored to be on Bradley's recruiting radar, was a 6'7" forward from Chicago Morgan Park HS.
He just committed to Morehead State.
http://www.msueagles.com/news/2016/8/11/mens-basketball-inks-alonzo-chatman.aspx
It's very unusual for a recruit to commit this late in the recruiting cycle. Registration and enrollment for the fall semester at Morehead State has already closed, and classes began today.
He just committed to Morehead State.
http://www.msueagles.com/news/2016/8/11/mens-basketball-inks-alonzo-chatman.aspx
It's very unusual for a recruit to commit this late in the recruiting cycle. Registration and enrollment for the fall semester at Morehead State has already closed, and classes began today.
tornado
New member
Alonzo Chatman got a SCHOLARSHIP OFFER from Bradley at the very beginning of his freshman year at Morgan Park
EVEN BEFORE he had ever played a single minute of basketball in a single high school game....
that's how high Geno was on him - and I really can't recall any Bradley coach ever offering any kid even before he had played in high school.
Of course that offer dried up after Geno left, and apparently so did all his other interest as time wore on.
Chatman was one of that group of Chicago kids who many got offered and many attended the preseason games as an entourage - and Dave Reynolds was so high on all of them - calling them "a DEFINING MOMENT" and "unprecedented"... and predicting that "The end result can only be a positive one for the Bradley men's basketball program"...."Remember this day, Bradley fans. It may take some time. But it may well be a moment that ushers in a return to glory for the Braves."
In the end - after four years of high school - Chatman's stock plummetted and even by the end of the school year he didn't have any offers-
He did not play varsity as a freshman, averaged 7 ppg as sophomore and 8 ppg as a junior, 9 pts as a senior. But he still didn't get any offers - obviously recruiters saw the same issues as Xzavier Taylor had - lack of scoring, mobility, foul issues, etc...
One other of that Morgan Park group who were coached by BU assistant Ronald "Chin" Coleman was Lamont Walker - a kid who was
highly touted and reportedly pursued by Bradley..
but he reneged on his verbal to UMKC hoping to get better offers...
then when that didn't pan out he headed to John A. Logan junior college but quicky quit the squad there and
landed at another juco, Utah State-Eastern (where Kendahl Amerson played)- but after playing just a couple games there (one of which he put up 32 pts & 15 rebs, and several others where he was over 20 pts and had 8 rebs/4 steals) he was booted from the squad and there hasn't been the tiniest mention of him since anywhere...so go figure...
Soooo many of that talented group that were supposedly such a defining moment for Bradley -have flamed out or had almost no impact..
tornado
New member
former Bradley recruit Daniel Soetan is going the juco route.
He will be at Three Rivers Community College in Missouri.
tornado
New member
former Brian Wardle player (at Green Bay) and former BU recruit Daeshon Francis - was reported to have verballed to Stephen F. Austin, then he signed his LOI to SFA coming out of Midland juco.
Maybe Coach Wardle knew something and backed off.......
http://www.sfajacks.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/041316aaa.html
http://www.mrt.com/sports/college/c...-MC-s-Wright-Francis-sign-with-D1-7406223.php
and as of the beginning of summer, Francis was still listed as a 2016 player for SFA, but...then suddenly in May, SFA landed another kid (Isaiah Traylor) despite not apparently having another ride.
After that no further mention of Francis at Stephen F. Austin and the roster doesn't have him - LINK
Coach Wardle was recruiting Daeshon Francis....but likely he knew Francis did not have the academics to qualify....
now he's at DII Texas-Permian Basin
Thankfully we do not have another example of the coach using a scholarship to bring in a kid who can't help because he can't get eligible (Amerson, Blake...)
tornado
New member
Jerrell DeBerry - a 26 ppg player in high school that Brian Wardle recruited and got committed at Green Bay...
then changed and went to juco then Kent State - now he's transferring to Utah State
http://verbalcommits.com/players/jerrelle-deberry
http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/...y-hoops-at-uwgreen-bay-7c9vltd-207812561.html
He's kinda becoming pretty well travelled - six different schools that he's been committed to since his senior year in high school 3 years ago...
..two different high schools, then Green Bay, then juco, Kent State, now Utah State
Too bad he didn't transfer to Stony Brook or UC Davis. He could have hit the trifecta of playing where former or current Bradley coaches have coached.
tornado
New member
Here's a few current stats on the guys we recruited for 2016 that we didn't land or who went elsewhere...(ps- very few would have helped us at all, proving our staff did a pretty good job)
-Daniel Soetan - went to Three Rivers juco - 6.0 ppg, 23.5% on 3-pt shooting, 1.4 assists/gm
-Hunter Rhodes - went to UNI - 3.3 ppg, 0.8 apg,
-Zion Morgan - went to UNLV - plays little, 2 ppg, 1 rpg, 0.8 apg
-Nick Robinson - went to St. Joe's- starts, 5 ppg, 4 rpg, 25.8% on 3-point shooting
-Derrick Walker - decided to stay an extra year at prep school - still uncommitted
-Justin Thomas - went to NIU, started more than half their games, 4.7 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1-12 on 3-pointers
-Richardson Maitre - at Indian Hills juco - 8.4 ppg, 3.8 apg
-Charles Tucker - at Sacred Heart, 6.6 ppg, 4.4 assists, 26.5% on 3-pointers
-Ben Coupet, Jr. - also at UNLV, but way down on playing time - mostly garbage minutes, barely sees the court, 1.6 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0-9 from 3-pt this one stumps me more than any, as Ben Coupet, Jr. was a 5-Star recruit at one time - Top 10 nationally!
-Rodney Culver - to Ohio - occas starts 3 ppg, 1.9 rpg
-Kavell Bigby-Williams - at Oregon, deep sub, 3 ppg, 3 rpg
-Freddie McSwain - at Indiana, deep sub, 2 ppg, 2 rpg
-Marquell Fraser - at VCU - barely sees the court, only appears in 1/2 their games, averages less than 1 ppg, was pegged as their defensive stopper but has just one steal and 3 rebs all year
-Rian Holland - at Mercer - starts and aveages 17.5 ppg..not sure he was ever a BU recruit
-Daeshon Francis - went to SFA but got booted now playing DII but scoring 19 ppg, 7.4 rpg, hitting 59% - woulda prob helped had he been eligible at DI, but obviously our coach was, again, one step ahead.
-Montrell Dixson - apparently did not qualify, went to prep school
-Micah Bradford - at Valpo- 3 ppg 24.4% on 3-pt shooting
-Chris Palombizio - at Oakland, 2 ppg, 1 rpg
-Loren Jackson - at Long Beach Statem 5 ppg, 1 rpg, 1.5 apg, 30% on 3-pt shooting
-Carson Williams - at Northern KY - has started every game, 11 ppg, 6 rpg
-Daniel Soetan - went to Three Rivers juco - 6.0 ppg, 23.5% on 3-pt shooting, 1.4 assists/gm
-Hunter Rhodes - went to UNI - 3.3 ppg, 0.8 apg,
-Zion Morgan - went to UNLV - plays little, 2 ppg, 1 rpg, 0.8 apg
-Nick Robinson - went to St. Joe's- starts, 5 ppg, 4 rpg, 25.8% on 3-point shooting
-Derrick Walker - decided to stay an extra year at prep school - still uncommitted
-Justin Thomas - went to NIU, started more than half their games, 4.7 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1-12 on 3-pointers
-Richardson Maitre - at Indian Hills juco - 8.4 ppg, 3.8 apg
-Charles Tucker - at Sacred Heart, 6.6 ppg, 4.4 assists, 26.5% on 3-pointers
-Ben Coupet, Jr. - also at UNLV, but way down on playing time - mostly garbage minutes, barely sees the court, 1.6 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0-9 from 3-pt this one stumps me more than any, as Ben Coupet, Jr. was a 5-Star recruit at one time - Top 10 nationally!
-Rodney Culver - to Ohio - occas starts 3 ppg, 1.9 rpg
-Kavell Bigby-Williams - at Oregon, deep sub, 3 ppg, 3 rpg
-Freddie McSwain - at Indiana, deep sub, 2 ppg, 2 rpg
-Marquell Fraser - at VCU - barely sees the court, only appears in 1/2 their games, averages less than 1 ppg, was pegged as their defensive stopper but has just one steal and 3 rebs all year
-Rian Holland - at Mercer - starts and aveages 17.5 ppg..not sure he was ever a BU recruit
-Daeshon Francis - went to SFA but got booted now playing DII but scoring 19 ppg, 7.4 rpg, hitting 59% - woulda prob helped had he been eligible at DI, but obviously our coach was, again, one step ahead.
-Montrell Dixson - apparently did not qualify, went to prep school
-Micah Bradford - at Valpo- 3 ppg 24.4% on 3-pt shooting
-Chris Palombizio - at Oakland, 2 ppg, 1 rpg
-Loren Jackson - at Long Beach Statem 5 ppg, 1 rpg, 1.5 apg, 30% on 3-pt shooting
-Carson Williams - at Northern KY - has started every game, 11 ppg, 6 rpg
Last edited:
LongTimeFan
Active member
t, respectfully, whether the staff did or does a good job looking and recruiting talent depends on Bradley's record. That is how all coaching staffs get judged.