Count me in! I hope Creighton runs the table and wins the first round of the Valley tourney so we can knock them out and help the Valley get two teams in the NCAA tournament! That is the Valley's only hope for multiple bids other than us losing to Creighton and someone else knocking them off in the Valley finals.
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3 MVC games Wednesday 2/18
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Count me in! I hope Creighton runs the table and wins the first round of the Valley tourney so we can knock them out and help the Valley get two teams in the NCAA tournament! That is the Valley's only hope for multiple bids other than us losing to Creighton and someone else knocking them off in the Valley finals.
BradleyBrave
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Hmm...not so sure about that. If it's a 3 way tie for 1st, or if ISU ties with CU, ISU is the #1 seed. ISU would then possibly have to play a team that either beat them already this year (WSU or INSU) in the quarterfinal round, and then may have a date with us on Saturday in St. Louis. I don't know about you, but I would much rather play ISU on Saturday than Creighton.
Of course, if UNI wins out and ISU wins in Omaha, UNI is the #1, and we're back to CU and ISU on the other side of the bracket where we want them.
IlliBraves
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I don't understand why ISU isn't even in the discussion as a team that's "on the fence". Same for UNI. If ISU beats Niagara, I'd think they'd have to at least get a little attention from the committee. I don't think the MVC will get multiple bids, but I do think it's a possibility.
Well I'm just stating that from a Valley perspective. Obviously UNI and/or ISU would be a little easier for us since CU is so deep. I'm a Bradley fan first, but if we lose somewhere during the tourney, then the goal would be to get two teams into the tournament, where Creighton winning the regular season and someone else winning the Valley tournament would be the best scenerio for the Valley.
But let's hope Bradley wins the Valley tourney and then I couldn't care less about anyone else!
MacabreMob
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ISU isn't even close enough to throw rocks at the fence right now.
(UNI is in quicksand and can't find rocks to throw)
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bluedevils1
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We have more quality wins than ISU. They also have lost to InSt. twice.
bluedevils1
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:lol:
TheAsianSensation
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They chopped off their own arms to throw rocks with during the non-con portion of the schedule.
We'll revisit if they win 3 in a row and win the Valley outright. But there is a real scenario where UNI and ISU tie for the title and drop Creighton to 3rd, and that would destroy the league. ISU needs to get out of the way this final week for anything good to happen.
IlliBraves
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IMO, I figure conference games are different, so it's not so surprising they lost to InSU twice. You have to figure when teams know each other as well as they do in conference play, you're going to see a few losses. Take Davidson. They lost to College of Charleston at HOME, which is a game you wouldn't expect them to lose, but they still have a great team. And I think it's ridiculous to think Dav. wouldn't make the tourney if they don't win their conference tourney. Yeah, they screwed themselves non-con wise, but I still think they have a pretty talented team. The few times I've seen them play on TV, I have been impressed (ISU).
Outside chance? Depends on how you define that. We have 2 games left. We win both those games we are Conference Champs. Doesn't matter what Creighton does against Mo State either. It could be Co-Champs, but we would be the #1 seed if we Win our last 2 games. (vs. UNI and @ Creighton)
A few thoughts on last night's games-
Drake 47 UNI 46
Drake scored only 17 points in the first half at UNI and looked terrible. But they came back to win 47-46. Only 5,109 fans attended the big intra-state, MVC "rivalry". I hesitate to call it a true rivalry, because it shouldn't matter where they are in the standings (UNI was in 1st place coming into last night's game!) they should sell more than 5,109 tickets.
UNI's guards shot terribly. Too bad they didn't shoot like that against Bradley. But if there was any remaining hope for UNI to get an at-large bid, this home loss ended that.
Adam Koch may have taken himself out of the POY consideration with a 2 point, 4 rebound, 5 turnover performance. Kwadzo Ahelegbe also had a bad game- 7 points, just 2 assists, and he played only 22 minutes because of foul trouble. Ali Farorkhmanesh was just 2-11 from the floor, and Johnny Moran was 0-4 from three. Since hitting the game-winner against Bradley, Moran is averaging just 6 ppg, and is shooting only 30% from the floor in his last 8 games. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200902180418
WSU 59 ISU 74
Only 6,576 fans saw this game. Wichita played pretty well and hung close for much of the game. But it seems they forgot to cover Landon Shipley and the other ISU shooters. Also, Ramon Clemente, who was touted as the best rebounder since Xavier Crawford, had only 3 rebounds in 37 minutes. He has only had fewer rebounds one time this year, 2 against Drake when he played just 15 minutes. ISU outrebounded WSU 35-26.
Freshman of the Year candidate Toure Murry had just 4 points. J.T. Durley had just 1 rebound to go with his 4 points. Sharpshooter Graham Hatch was just 1-6 from the field, and Garrett Stutz played just 8 minutes, and had 0 points, and 1 rebound. If he moves any deeper down the bench, he will fall off.
Also, Aaron Ellis, had 0 points and 3 rebounds.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200902180269
And Indiana State 78 SIU 72
Nice to see Indiana State win this one on the road. Suddenly, SIU is a better offensive team, but they abandoned their patented defense. InSU shot 50% for the game, and 52.4% from three, and the 78 points SIU gave up to the next-to-last place team is another embarrassment for Chris Lowery. The 82 points they gave up to Creighton on Saturday, and the 78 points last night are, by far, the most points they have given up on their home court this year. This was the 7th home loss this season for SIU, and their 3rd in a row. SIU shot well (52%, 46% from three) and outrebounded InSU, so the difference was their porous defense.
One interesting stat- Nick Evans had 4 fouls in 4 minutes.
Only 4,563 fans showed up for this game.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200902180528
Drake 47 UNI 46
Drake scored only 17 points in the first half at UNI and looked terrible. But they came back to win 47-46. Only 5,109 fans attended the big intra-state, MVC "rivalry". I hesitate to call it a true rivalry, because it shouldn't matter where they are in the standings (UNI was in 1st place coming into last night's game!) they should sell more than 5,109 tickets.
UNI's guards shot terribly. Too bad they didn't shoot like that against Bradley. But if there was any remaining hope for UNI to get an at-large bid, this home loss ended that.
Adam Koch may have taken himself out of the POY consideration with a 2 point, 4 rebound, 5 turnover performance. Kwadzo Ahelegbe also had a bad game- 7 points, just 2 assists, and he played only 22 minutes because of foul trouble. Ali Farorkhmanesh was just 2-11 from the floor, and Johnny Moran was 0-4 from three. Since hitting the game-winner against Bradley, Moran is averaging just 6 ppg, and is shooting only 30% from the floor in his last 8 games. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200902180418
WSU 59 ISU 74
Only 6,576 fans saw this game. Wichita played pretty well and hung close for much of the game. But it seems they forgot to cover Landon Shipley and the other ISU shooters. Also, Ramon Clemente, who was touted as the best rebounder since Xavier Crawford, had only 3 rebounds in 37 minutes. He has only had fewer rebounds one time this year, 2 against Drake when he played just 15 minutes. ISU outrebounded WSU 35-26.
Freshman of the Year candidate Toure Murry had just 4 points. J.T. Durley had just 1 rebound to go with his 4 points. Sharpshooter Graham Hatch was just 1-6 from the field, and Garrett Stutz played just 8 minutes, and had 0 points, and 1 rebound. If he moves any deeper down the bench, he will fall off.
Also, Aaron Ellis, had 0 points and 3 rebounds.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200902180269
And Indiana State 78 SIU 72
Nice to see Indiana State win this one on the road. Suddenly, SIU is a better offensive team, but they abandoned their patented defense. InSU shot 50% for the game, and 52.4% from three, and the 78 points SIU gave up to the next-to-last place team is another embarrassment for Chris Lowery. The 82 points they gave up to Creighton on Saturday, and the 78 points last night are, by far, the most points they have given up on their home court this year. This was the 7th home loss this season for SIU, and their 3rd in a row. SIU shot well (52%, 46% from three) and outrebounded InSU, so the difference was their porous defense.
One interesting stat- Nick Evans had 4 fouls in 4 minutes.
Only 4,563 fans showed up for this game.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200902180528
BradleyBrave
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What's most alarming is that Drake and Indiana St went in and won at two places we couldn't. Granted, Mullins wasn't playing against the 'Trees, but UNI losing to Drake is just terrible. Looking at the past few weeks of games for UNI and their games since their miracle against us, I think that their magic carpet ride is over. Last night they looked more like the team that muddled through the non-con than the one that could do no wrong in conference.